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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 08 2009 at 06:15
Originally posted by Abstrakt Abstrakt wrote:

If anyone has Guitar Pro 5, i could send it to you on MSN Tongue


Please do.
[email protected] is my MSN.
I'd love to take a look at it through GP.

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EDIT: Ah, sorry, saw that you posted that file already.
No matter - you can send that other file you're working on, if I may ask. LOL

The Gm7, Am7, Bbmaj7, Am7- one.

EDIT 2: The only thing with the first composition is, that it desperately needs vocals and possibly lyrics too.
I think the lyrics posted here would make a very interesting mix...
Or maybe not...?



Edited by Hyardacil - August 08 2009 at 06:33
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 08 2009 at 16:02
Originally posted by Hyardacil Hyardacil wrote:

Originally posted by Abstrakt Abstrakt wrote:

If anyone has Guitar Pro 5, i could send it to you on MSN Tongue


Please do.
[email protected] is my MSN.
I'd love to take a look at it through GP.

Smile

EDIT: Ah, sorry, saw that you posted that file already.
No matter - you can send that other file you're working on, if I may ask. LOL

The Gm7, Am7, Bbmaj7, Am7- one.

EDIT 2: The only thing with the first composition is, that it desperately needs vocals and possibly lyrics too.
I think the lyrics posted here would make a very interesting mix...
Or maybe not...?



Nah, my compositions SHALL remain instrumental!
And it would be easier if i just uploaded the second one, which BTW is titled "Frågetecken". Gimme a minute...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 08 2009 at 16:10
HERE is "Frågetecken".
I removed the organ solo and extended that section. It's so difficult to get a decent solo from scratch in GP5. I rather improvise on top of it myself.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 08 2009 at 16:17
Oh, and if you want the version WITH the solo, just tell me
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 08 2009 at 17:23
Originally posted by Abstrakt Abstrakt wrote:

HERE is "Frågetecken".
I removed the organ solo and extended that section. It's so difficult to get a decent solo from scratch in GP5. I rather improvise on top of it myself.
 
why don't you just turn them into mp3's Wink
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 08 2009 at 18:35
This is my A + B single from a few months ago hehe.
 
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Can't wait until my dad plays the hammond and rhodes parts Tongue
He's gonna make them cool. I'll persuade his jazz guitarist, drummer and bass player to play them lol


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 08 2009 at 19:02
I wish I could write a prog piece.... I want to start a PA project with no songs ready whatsoever, so anybody could voice what he wants in the song.
Trendsetter win!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 08 2009 at 19:05
Originally posted by Blowin Free Blowin Free wrote:

I wish I could write a prog piece.... I want to start a PA project with no songs ready whatsoever, so anybody could voice what he wants in the song.
 
I tried to check out your songs, but the password wouldn't work. Tongue
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 08 2009 at 19:15
progarchives?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 08 2009 at 19:21
Originally posted by Blowin Free Blowin Free wrote:

progarchives?
 
yeah. It said wrong password or something
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 09 2009 at 06:59
Originally posted by Blowin Free Blowin Free wrote:

I wish I could write a prog piece....


So do i! I don't know if my songs can be called prog really.
"Ingentitelän" changes between 7/8, 6/8 and 4/4, in different tempos, but other than that i think it's more like heavy prog/hard rock.
"Frågetecken" has a canterbury/jazzy melody, but other than that it sounds almost like an indierock song Embarrassed
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 09 2009 at 07:00
Originally posted by PROGMONSTER2008 PROGMONSTER2008 wrote:

Originally posted by Abstrakt Abstrakt wrote:

HERE is "Frågetecken".
I removed the organ solo and extended that section. It's so difficult to get a decent solo from scratch in GP5. I rather improvise on top of it myself.
 
why don't you just turn them into mp3's Wink
 


I don't know how to? Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 09 2009 at 12:55
Originally posted by Abstrakt Abstrakt wrote:



Nah, my compositions SHALL remain instrumental!



What, lyrics aren't progressive enough for ya? LOL

Not meaning to argue, just
I cant totally hear some vocals like Aorta's backing your organ work up.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbpJT7-th9U&feature=channel_page

There are certain points in your compositions which lack something... Specifically a melody! It's just chord progression with rhythm+bass. I'm listening to your new composition and the bars 25-32 repeat 10 times and it has no melody or even a solo in that section. That definitely would be an awesome bit for some lyrics. And when it has good lyrics and vocals too, it will be probably a 5 star song!
In the previous composition as well. It had cool riffs for the organ. Extremely cool! But again, for example 7-18 it's definitely missing a melody, which would be a perfect spot for vocals. In fact I ceep hearing your piece as structured as a very brilliant song. It has a brilliant intro from 1-6th bar, then a cool verse bit, with a conclusion from 21 - onwards. After that it gets interesting enough to work as instrumental, but when it repeats the bit from 7-18 on 41-51- AGAIN it would be brilliant for a second verse. It seems you were composing in song format. I'd say don't worry. They'll still be very progressive, even without being instrumental. Clap

But ah well, sorry if I went too far. Just my (strong...) oppinions.
Cool compositions anyways, just tried some constructive criticism.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 09 2009 at 14:03
Originally posted by Hyardacil Hyardacil wrote:

Originally posted by Abstrakt Abstrakt wrote:



Nah, my compositions SHALL remain instrumental!



What, lyrics aren't progressive enough for ya? LOL

Not meaning to argue, just
I cant totally hear some vocals like Aorta's backing your organ work up.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbpJT7-th9U&feature=channel_page

There are certain points in your compositions which lack something... Specifically a melody! It's just chord progression with rhythm+bass. I'm listening to your new composition and the bars 25-32 repeat 10 times and it has no melody or even a solo in that section. That definitely would be an awesome bit for some lyrics. And when it has good lyrics and vocals too, it will be probably a 5 star song!
In the previous composition as well. It had cool riffs for the organ. Extremely cool! But again, for example 7-18 it's definitely missing a melody, which would be a perfect spot for vocals. In fact I ceep hearing your piece as structured as a very brilliant song. It has a brilliant intro from 1-6th bar, then a cool verse bit, with a conclusion from 21 - onwards. After that it gets interesting enough to work as instrumental, but when it repeats the bit from 7-18 on 41-51- AGAIN it would be brilliant for a second verse. It seems you were composing in song format. I'd say don't worry. They'll still be very progressive, even without being instrumental. Clap

But ah well, sorry if I went too far. Just my (strong...) oppinions.
Cool compositions anyways, just tried some constructive criticism.


Thanks for the comments! Big smile
As i said earlier, in "Frågetecken", i removed the organ solo so i could solo on top of it myself.
And maybe you're right about the first song. Now that you mention it, perhaps i should add a melody there. But on what instrument?
I want them to stay instrumental, as i can't sing LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 09 2009 at 14:54
Well you could always trick someone else to doing it...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 09 2009 at 19:24
Originally posted by Abstrakt Abstrakt wrote:

Originally posted by Blowin Free Blowin Free wrote:

I wish I could write a prog piece....


So do i! I don't know if my songs can be called prog really.
"Ingentitelän" changes between 7/8, 6/8 and 4/4, in different tempos, but other than that i think it's more like heavy prog/hard rock.
"Frågetecken" has a canterbury/jazzy melody, but other than that it sounds almost like an indierock song Embarrassed
 
I haven't heard your tunes but If you go by the original method of prog, then your music is prog. Don't worry about the actual word 'progressive' it's just a name given by critics Smile. I don't follow the modern formula of prog(which I think is wrong) where bands TRY to invent new styles of METAL. Real prog isn't guitar based music, it's rock music played by musicians who don't get enough from standard rock. The type of musicians who want things to be busy and interesting. Therefore, you jazz it up with jazz drumming, flutes, sax etc and you give the bass player more of a say in the songs while the guitarist plays as part of the band(rather than metal where the guitarist takes over completely), while bringing in some classical key playing and melodies. There you have it. PROG. You won't find me listening to Porcupine tree etc. BORING. Where's the jazzy playing and the classical melody. Nowhere to be heard LOL. I only enjoy original style prog old and new(rare, but some around), but as long as they follow the original formula then they will be interesting. Otherwise, I find it boring just like most rock music apart from prog and fusion. Just like proggers in 1969 prog found most rock music boring imo


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 12 2009 at 04:40
Abstract, you have inspired me though.

I liked your "Egg"'ish sound on the first piece and set out for my own harmonies also.
So I've come up with a thingy alternating between 7/8 and 4/4 in every one bar and with a chord progression of Emadd2, A11, Emadd2, A11, F#m7, F7sus2, Emadd2, A11.
Sounds wicked.

And I'm definitely gonna have vocals on that.

I didn't compose it in a very progressive way though.
I just took up the guitar - I don't know how to play a single thing on it (Except for Em and E major chords!) and took some random harmonies, til' something sounded good. Then remade it to those progressions. :P
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 12 2009 at 05:26
I just sat by the keyboard and wanted to come up with something. That i just picked the key of C# minor, because i think it sounds cool.
Then i just noodled around until i came up with a decent riff or a decent chord sequence.
VOILA! LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 12 2009 at 05:26
What the hell is an add2 chord by the way? Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 12 2009 at 07:00
Originally posted by Abstrakt Abstrakt wrote:

What the hell is an add2 chord by the way? Wink
 
That's just when you take the third in a triad down to a second.  It's a neat sound, Zappa used it constantly.
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