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Originally posted by progkidjoel progkidjoel wrote:

Originally posted by stonebeard stonebeard wrote:

Though it's not an outright win, I think I've decided that Clutching at Straws has the best lyrics of any Fish-era album. The theme(s) are tight and well thought-out. The double-meanings comparing drinking to strained relationships and other things is very poignant. 


Its a very good album - My favourite lyrically would be FUGAZI, and thats also my favourite all over, but its still brilliant, and as you said, the double-meanings are really genious.

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I think the reason why the lyrics are so good and tight is due to the fact that they were deeply personal to Fish, especially regarding his massive drink problem at the time. This, of course, and the egos involved and the fact the band had virtually no break at all led to the split.

However, I do not regret the split, and did not from the moment that I heard both King of Sunset Town and the subsequent Seasons End tour in Wolverhampton. My faith has been rewarded many times over since.
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Definitely has been - I think that Hogarth's lyrics seem more... Natural.

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Evening folks!

Just found this, although it isn't really new anymore, I thought I'd post it:

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Thanks Joel. I had this from the band as well, and it is making me really look forward to the new LP.
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Still having a tough time getting excited about Less=More. Again, I'm sure I'll like it, but seems a bit unnecessary, IMO.

I did spin Seasons End today. Man, what a wonderful disc! "Easter" is still just so beautiful. Marillion's perfect song.

On a sad note: I saw that Fish had to cancel a show due to poor sales. Not sure what's up with that.

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Originally posted by E-Dub E-Dub wrote:

Still having a tough time getting excited about Less=More. Again, I'm sure I'll like it, but seems a bit unnecessary, IMO.I did spin Seasons End today. Man, what a wonderful disc! "Easter" is still just so beautiful.


I'm not sure about the whole L=M idea... I think it'll be good, but in the end, I'd really prefer the guys to be working on a new studio album.

I agree about Easter - My first Marillion track, and I wouldn't have it any other way

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Evening folks!

Just listened to Brave out in my garage, with the lights off, insanely loud whilst lying down on the floor... One of the two or three most fulfilling musical experiences of my life... Simply amazing!

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Joel, I have yet to listen to Brave in the manner that you did. The manner in which it should be listened to. One of these nights when the girls have gone to bed, I need to put it on the player with the headphones and crank it.

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Originally posted by progkidjoel progkidjoel wrote:

Originally posted by E-Dub E-Dub wrote:

Still having a tough time getting excited about Less=More. Again, I'm sure I'll like it, but seems a bit unnecessary, IMO.I did spin Seasons End today. Man, what a wonderful disc! "Easter" is still just so beautiful.


I'm not sure about the whole L=M idea... I think it'll be good, but in the end, I'd really prefer the guys to be working on a new studio album.

I agree about Easter - My first Marillion track, and I wouldn't have it any other way

-Joel


I'll still get L=M, but I'm just not into it.

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Originally posted by E-Dub E-Dub wrote:

Joel, I have yet to listen to Brave in the manner that you did. The manner in which it should be listened to. One of these nights when the girls have gone to bed, I need to put it on the player with the headphones and crank it.

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Make sure you do sometime - It took the album to a whole new level for me... It also seemed to fit into place as an album better!


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So I was getting ready to go to the record store today and was considering trading in my copy of Anoraknophobia since I don't really listen to it. Naturally, I survey the album once more before I make a decision and I was pleasantly surprised at how much I still enjoyed it. This is like the third time this has happened with that record. I don't enjoy it nearly as much as Seasons End, Brave, Afraid of Sunlight, Marbles or Happiness Is the Road, but there's something in this record that keeps it pleasurable and above the miserable period preceding it. It's definitely not stylistically tailored to my tastes, but it seems to me like Marillion's music is so genuine and heartfelt (as evidenced by their passionate performances of the tunes) that I can't help but get into it even if it's not their best stuff.
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Originally posted by Moatilliatta Moatilliatta wrote:

So I was getting ready to go to the record store today and was considering trading in my copy of Anoraknophobia since I don't really listen to it. Naturally, I survey the album once more before I make a decision and I was pleasantly surprised at how much I still enjoyed it. This is like the third time this has happened with that record. I don't enjoy it nearly as much as Seasons End, Brave, Afraid of Sunlight, Marbles or Happiness Is the Road, but there's something in this record that keeps it pleasurable and above the miserable period preceding it. It's definitely not stylistically tailored to my tastes, but it seems to me like Marillion's music is so genuine and heartfelt (as evidenced by their passionate performances of the tunes) that I can't help but get into it even if it's not their best stuff.




Glad to hear it, Moatilliatta!

I haven't got Anoraknophobia, but thats the next album I think I'll buy from Marillion - It sounds good, and I've really enjoyed the tracks I've heard so far.

Glad you enjoy it, and keep listening!

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Originally posted by Conor Fynes Conor Fynes wrote:

Originally posted by E-Dub E-Dub wrote:

Originally posted by Conor Fynes Conor Fynes wrote:

I bought 'Anoraknophobia' as my first Marillion CD a few days ago and I love it. I'm suprised it's rated so low on this site, because there are a few songs on there ('This Is The 21st Century') that are phenomenal.


I've loved Anoraknophobia since the first time I heard it. I think the current trend they have of producing 2 critically acclaimed albums started with Anoraknophobia. I have a tough time with This Strange Engine and Dotcom (even though "This Strange Engine" and "Interior Lulu" are top shelf), but think they were on to something with Anoraknophobia.

Last night I watched the Before First Light DVD (Afraid Of Sunlight in it's entirety at the 2003 convention, plus "Faith" and "Easter") and got to thinking that the crowd had no idea what they had in store for them the following year. They were still in the middle of recording Marbles, so the crowd was clueless as to the brilliance they were about to experience.

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I'm quite new with the band, but I've been looking around for a second disc to continue my experience, I am aiming towards Brave or MarblesTongue


Definitely can't go wrong with either. If you get Marbles, be sure you get the 2 disc version from their website. It's worth every penny.

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Whats better about the 2-disc? I'm not usually for special editions but I do make exceptions.
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Its not a special edition - Its a... More full edition, really.

It comes with some extra tracks - Don't go without these...

In particular, it comes with the epic Ocean Cloud, which is one of Marillion's best ever, and also with The Only Unforgivable Thing, which is also AMAZING.

I'd say get it - If you order online from their store, its only 3 pounds more, which is a small price to pay for 2 more of their best tracks!


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    I wish I had gotten the 2 disc Marbles edition but at the time I didn't know it supposed to be a double album.  So I had to get the Somewhere in London DVD so I could have Ocean Cloud,  an amazing track.
 
I still don't have a few songs but it's hard the buy the Racket records edition for just a couple songs. 
 
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I got it now (2cd), from a first listen trough its great, i love the fact that the style have changed a little bit from the older stuff i got, its not the "just another Marillion" Thumbs Up 
 
From a first glims:
Marbles 1-2-3-4 stands out as very beautifull short tunes.
Ocean Cloud a wonderfull Epic
 
All in all, even though this is a huge realease it all comes out as a strong unit.
 
 
 
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Originally posted by tamijo tamijo wrote:

I got it now (2cd), from a first listen trough its great, i love the fact that the style have changed a little bit from the older stuff i got, its not the "just another Marillion" Thumbs Up 


 

From a first glims:

Marbles 1-2-3-4 stands out as very beautifull short tunes.

Ocean Cloud a wonderfull Epic

 

All in all, even though this is a huge realease it all comes out as a strong unit.

 

 

 




I found it to be an incredible album, but my favourite thing about it is the way that Marbles 1,2,3 and 4 fill the space between tracks and make the transition... It made if feel like more of a story than just a collection of tracks based around a story or concept... And I love that!


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Originally posted by Conor Fynes Conor Fynes wrote:

Originally posted by E-Dub E-Dub wrote:

Originally posted by Conor Fynes Conor Fynes wrote:

Originally posted by E-Dub E-Dub wrote:

Originally posted by Conor Fynes Conor Fynes wrote:

I bought 'Anoraknophobia' as my first Marillion CD a few days ago and I love it. I'm suprised it's rated so low on this site, because there are a few songs on there ('This Is The 21st Century') that are phenomenal.


I've loved Anoraknophobia since the first time I heard it. I think the current trend they have of producing 2 critically acclaimed albums started with Anoraknophobia. I have a tough time with This Strange Engine and Dotcom (even though "This Strange Engine" and "Interior Lulu" are top shelf), but think they were on to something with Anoraknophobia.

Last night I watched the Before First Light DVD (Afraid Of Sunlight in it's entirety at the 2003 convention, plus "Faith" and "Easter") and got to thinking that the crowd had no idea what they had in store for them the following year. They were still in the middle of recording Marbles, so the crowd was clueless as to the brilliance they were about to experience.

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I'm quite new with the band, but I've been looking around for a second disc to continue my experience, I am aiming towards Brave or MarblesTongue


Definitely can't go wrong with either. If you get Marbles, be sure you get the 2 disc version from their website. It's worth every penny.

E
Whats better about the 2-disc? I'm not usually for special editions but I do make exceptions.


Pretty much what Joel said. Don't look at it like a full album, plus some throwaways tacked on as bonus features. The tracks you get with the deluxe edition are every bit as good (if not better) as the material on the single disc edition. One MUST hear "Ocean Cloud", IMO. Absolutely stunner of a tune.

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Originally posted by tamijo tamijo wrote:

I got it now (2cd), from a first listen trough its great, i love the fact that the style have changed a little bit from the older stuff i got, its not the "just another Marillion" Thumbs Up 
 
From a first glims:
Marbles 1-2-3-4 stands out as very beautifull short tunes.
Ocean Cloud a wonderfull Epic
 
All in all, even though this is a huge realease it all comes out as a strong unit.
 
 
 


They may not always hit the mark that pleases every fan, but you can't accuse Marillion of being stagnant. They are always exploring new ways of producing music that doesn't sound antiquated and tired.

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They are, definitely... I can't think of one album with h that sounds like another...

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