The Motorsport Thread (was the F1 thread)

Oops, maybe '95 is what I was thinking of  with Benneton
But still, Schumi has put some great drives. I recall the one where he was stuck in 2nd gear and still drove around, including pit stops, and managed a podium.


So Neil, when you say Schumi had the best equipment, well of course! All F1 drivers are talented..it's a matter of making it to a good team. And no matter how good you are, if your car is THAT bad you can not overcome....unless its raining or a street circuit and you are Ayrton Senna.

As Sleeper said, Stirling Moss never won a title...and even though he came close he couldn't beat Ferrari or Maserati.
Although I will admit he probably should have won in '58.


Edited by JJLehto - July 31 2009 at 19:11

That would be the one. And I actually did know of that fact!

That's a shame. DIdn't have much of a chance.
Obviously we don't know exactly how he was treated by Renault but I would believe him...
I swear I started hearing talks about his seat "being in trouble" halfway into his first season.

Guess he never really had a chance to succeed...especially in that terrible Renault.
And as for which driver.....it's pretty safe bet to put on Renault taking the french driver

JJLehto wrote: That's a shame. DIdn't have much of a chance. Obviously we don't know exactly how he was treated by Renault but I would believe him... I swear I started hearing talks about his seat "being in trouble" halfway into his first season. Guess he never really had a chance to succeed...especially in that terrible Renault. And as for which driver.....it's pretty safe bet to put on Renault taking the french driver

I've read what Piquet wrote and some of it doesnt surprise me about the actions of his manager and team boss Briatore, he's always favoured one driver over another. However, some of his comments I cant help but feel are utter bollocks. He mentions that when new developments came in he'd have to wait a race longer than Alonso to get them. Now thats very much true but thats because they only really had enough parts for one car and lets face it, no sane man would give them to Piquet over Alonso.

I dont think he's ever had a fair chance in F1 but I also cant help think he's underperformed with the chance he has had.

Well Massa says he's going to attempt to come back soon.

I guess he doesn't want Schumacher taking all the glory.

Good look to him though on a quick return.

It would be nice to see but I seriously doubt it, recovery from a fractured skull and subsiquent operation to relieve brain swelling is not something that you rush.

sleeper wrote: JJLehto wrote: That's a shame. DIdn't have much of a chance. Obviously we don't know exactly how he was treated by Renault but I would believe him... I swear I started hearing talks about his seat "being in trouble" halfway into his first season. Guess he never really had a chance to succeed...especially in that terrible Renault. And as for which driver.....it's pretty safe bet to put on Renault taking the french driver I've read what Piquet wrote and some of it doesnt surprise me about the actions of his manager and team boss Briatore, he's always favoured one driver over another. However, some of his comments I cant help but feel are utter bollocks. He mentions that when new developments came in he'd have to wait a race longer than Alonso to get them. Now thats very much true but thats because they only really had enough parts for one car and lets face it, no sane man would give them to Piquet over Alonso. I dont think he's ever had a fair chance in F1 but I also cant help think he's underperformed with the chance he has had.

Have you read Zanardi's book?

sleeper wrote: Luca Pacchiarini wrote: sleeper wrote: JJLehto wrote: That's a shame. DIdn't have much of a chance. Obviously we don't know exactly how he was treated by Renault but I would believe him... I swear I started hearing talks about his seat "being in trouble" halfway into his first season. Guess he never really had a chance to succeed...especially in that terrible Renault. And as for which driver.....it's pretty safe bet to put on Renault taking the french driver I've read what Piquet wrote and some of it doesnt surprise me about the actions of his manager and team boss Briatore, he's always favoured one driver over another. However, some of his comments I cant help but feel are utter bollocks. He mentions that when new developments came in he'd have to wait a race longer than Alonso to get them. Now thats very much true but thats because they only really had enough parts for one car and lets face it, no sane man would give them to Piquet over Alonso. I dont think he's ever had a fair chance in F1 but I also cant help think he's underperformed with the chance he has had. Have you read Zanardi's book?   There you can understand the way Briatore operates... why he's so succesful and why drivers hate him... I havnt no, but I'll cetainly give it a try. I didnt know Zanardi used to be managed by Briatore.

Man With Hat wrote:  for Rubens!!   Great to see him back on top of the podium!   And man...is that a lovely track.

@ Guigo: Wow! I didn't know that. Thats pretty awesome.