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Out of curiosity, does someone moderate the ratings?  For instance, let's say someone joins on one day and decides to give one star ratings to a whole slew of just recently released albums, while giving 5 star ratings to every Pink Floyd album.   Then, let's say another person joins that same day and gives 1 star ratings to some just released albums and several 5 and 4 star ratings to every Pink Floyd album.   It seems a little fishy, but of course, there's no way to really know that.  I'm sure these Pink Floyd fans are just very offended by a slate of new releases (after careful consideration). 

I'm sure it would be quite hard to moderate and keep track of all people who rate and what would be the criteria to think something was rotten in Denmark?   I certainly don't know.
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Originally posted by LiquidEternity LiquidEternity wrote:

http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=25106

This guy appears to be at it still...


And here: http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=25112
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Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

I don't quite understand this...but it seems when someone reviews an album, this Discopgraphia person is right behind them with a review that's barely readable.

Someone posted a 5 star review of Octopus today, and there's a 2 star review by this guy.
Someone posted a 3 star review of Silent Knight recently, and there's a 4 star review by this guy.
Someone posted a 4 star review of Lizard, and there's a 4 star review by this guy.
Someone posted a 1 star review of Genesis just now, and there's a 2 star review by this guy.

I realize this may not be abuse per se, but it's a pattern I think I saw yesterday, and it might be worth checking into- the English isn't so hot either...
 
What a paranoid pattern. Shocked




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http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=25106

This guy appears to be at it still...

And you are right about the Beardfish review. Rereading it, it was a lot more sensical than it was the first time through. Hm. Actually not a bad review, and taking the time of your review to address a facet of an album that lots of people have reviewed but none have dwelt on is a good idea... Oops. My apologies.


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Epignosis Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 23 2009 at 15:33
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

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I think he's just using the PA front page to decide which albums to review next.
 


If you think so, okay.  I just found it very weird, that's all.
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I think he's just using the PA front page to decide which albums to review next.
 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Epignosis Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 23 2009 at 15:25
I don't quite understand this...but it seems when someone reviews an album, this Discopgraphia person is right behind them with a review that's barely readable.

Someone posted a 5 star review of Octopus today, and there's a 2 star review by this guy.
Someone posted a 3 star review of Silent Knight recently, and there's a 4 star review by this guy.
Someone posted a 4 star review of Lizard, and there's a 4 star review by this guy.
Someone posted a 1 star review of Genesis just now, and there's a 2 star review by this guy.

I realize this may not be abuse per se, but it's a pattern I think I saw yesterday, and it might be worth checking into- the English isn't so hot either...
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote harmonium.ro Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 21 2009 at 10:53
^ I think it's a great review. Coincidentally, yesterday it was the first time I listened to this album and my feelings are quite the same (the music is quite retro for my tastes but has impressive qualities in a few moments, the "fun" parts are quite lame". I appreciate Fuxi's effort to translate his not liking of this album by a well thought, even encouraging review... Way different than the regular bashers we have here. One may like what Fuxi dislikes, but no one can say he was not fair to them.
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http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=227721

I can't tell if it's a fair stance to take on an album, that the humor does not appeal to you and thus: two stars. The reviewer states that the music is great, the playing impressive, but then justifies his low rating with a long complaint about two or three passages and one song. Good thing it's not up to me if it's a passable review or not. I'll just throw it in here and see what y'all do with it...
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(Anyone's Daughter, Requested Document Live #1)

The reviewer says:

Come on! Five stars! You'd never believe that a relatively sedate symphonic-melodic prog outfit like this could rip it up live. Oh, but they can. All the versions of their signature track completely blow the roof off, and Uwe Karpa gets to show off his chops. He is a very imaginative player, not simply a Blackmore wannabe, as maybe the early albums suggest. Again, it's a pleasure to hear everything, or almost everything, in German. Presumably it is all of the soundboard, as many of the venues AD played back then weren't exactly arenas... don't start your AD collection here, but it's still a great album. Even the monumentally boring Adonis works!

but gives the album 4 stars4 stars

http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=94652

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A little short...

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5 stars From the loud spooky Mellotron intro of "Watcher of The Skies", you know you're in for a very special experience! The intensity just does not let up, the exaggerated dynamics are jaw-dropping and the aura is nothing short of magical!

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Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

I went to the shops today, it was raining, I was there for some time so it was inevitable that I would get hungry at sometime, which eventually I inevitably  did so while I was feeling at the peak of hunger I had a chicken and mozzarella pannini with sweet chili sauce and an Americano coffee with lots of sugar, and the sandwich was good and left me quite happily sated although the coffee was a little bit bitter so I assume they had burnt the coffee beans a tad instead of gently roasting them, later I went into HMV to buy the new Riverside album but they hadn't got it so I picked up the new Mars Volta album and an old Autechre CD, but after several minutes of deliberation and indecisiveness I put them down again and left the shop without buying anything because I'm sure I could get them both cheaper online even accounting for the added cost of postage and packaging, of course the problem there is once I start browsing for albums online I get side tracked onto the more obscure and weird so I never really buy mainstream albums online, anyway, it was still raining when I got home and the air was decidedly cooler than it has been for quite some time, life's like that somedays, usually rainy ones come to think of it, then if it were a sunny day then I probably wouldn't have gone to the shops so and still wouldn't have bought anything so the day wasn't quite as wasted as I originally thought which is all well and good on balance as it wasn't sunny and I couldn't fly my kite because there was insufficient wind and the rain would have made the lines all wet, which would not have been much fun never-the-less a trip to the seaside would have been more enjoyable than a fruitless trip to the shops except for the weather of course, so while reviews can vary in quality and informativeness, one of many the purposes of the site is to give people something to do on rainy days other than go to the shops and not buy albums but then you can't have everything can you?


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Now I`m really confused.

Of course I realized the 47 % thing was a joke.
My point is that if you`re going to let anyone write a review here then expect anything! Hell, how do we know Charles Manson isn`t writing reviews here. In other words, I can`t see what purpose this reviews reporting thread serves. So Bob  writes in and says that Dave said bad things about my favourite record. Hey man doesn`t he know that that Rick Wakeman happens to be a musical genius. He doesn`t know anything man. That record is at least a 4 and a half not the 2 that he gave it man. And so on . I dunno. Maybe this is why I don`t really bother with reviews anymore.
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I went to the shops today, it was raining, I was there for some time so it was inevitable that I would get hungry at sometime, which eventually I inevitably  did so while I was feeling at the peak of hunger I had a chicken and mozzarella pannini with sweet chili sauce and an Americano coffee with lots of sugar, and the sandwich was good and left me quite happily sated although the coffee was a little bit bitter so I assume they had burnt the coffee beans a tad instead of gently roasting them, later I went into HMV to buy the new Riverside album but they hadn't got it so I picked up the new Mars Volta album and an old Autechre CD, but after several minutes of deliberation and indecisiveness I put them down again and left the shop without buying anything because I'm sure I could get them both cheaper online even accounting for the added cost of postage and packaging, of course the problem there is once I start browsing for albums online I get side tracked onto the more obscure and weird so I never really buy mainstream albums online, anyway, it was still raining when I got home and the air was decidedly cooler than it has been for quite some time, life's like that somedays, usually rainy ones come to think of it, then if it were a sunny day then I probably wouldn't have gone to the shops so and still wouldn't have bought anything so the day wasn't quite as wasted as I originally thought which is all well and good on balance as it wasn't sunny and I couldn't fly my kite because there was insufficient wind and the rain would have made the lines all wet, which would not have been much fun never-the-less a trip to the seaside would have been more enjoyable than a fruitless trip to the shops except for the weather of course, so while reviews can vary in quality and informativeness, one of many the purposes of the site is to give people something to do on rainy days other than go to the shops and not buy albums but then you can't have everything can you?
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Originally posted by Finnforest Finnforest wrote:

Sorry Admin, just realized Ian and I inadvertantly did another post in the "reporting" thread.

This message I put here on purpose to propose a solution to this never-ending problem.  Could Max not quite easily add a pop-up message, like the one that jumps at you when you pick 5 stars for a rating, which says to the poster of this thread:
 
"Hey Bonehead, this is the REPORTING thread only.  If your post is DISCUSSION, do not put it here as it means Admin gets an email report."
 
 
The reason I do it over and over is just pure oversight.  With a pop-up, might save you guys lots of irritation. 
 
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Ditto on the Forum Abuse reporting vs. discussion.

Can I call you bonehead too? No reason. I just need to call someone bonehead.

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Sorry Admin, just realized Ian and I inadvertantly did another post in the "reporting" thread.

This message I put here on purpose to propose a solution to this never-ending problem.  Could Max not quite easily add a pop-up message, like the one that jumps at you when you pick 5 stars for a rating, which says to the poster of this thread:
 
"Hey Bonehead, this is the REPORTING thread only.  If your post is DISCUSSION, do not put it here as it means Admin gets an email report."
 
 
The reason I do it over and over is just pure oversight.  With a pop-up, might save you guys lots of irritation. 
 
Thoughts?
 
Ditto on the Forum Abuse reporting vs. discussion.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Finnforest Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 17 2009 at 10:20

Ian....the 47% figure was the result of several months of painstaking evalutation, where I printed off every review in the archive and had a panel of my friends review each one.  They scored the reviews on a series of 17 different factors, with values on a 1-10 scale.  I fed those results to a statistics class at the local high school and then crunched them again to come up with the 47%. 

You can be confident I handled it properly.  The full report can be sent to anyone who wants to see it, the printing fee for the 1000s of pages is $350 US which can be sent to my Paypal account. 
 
Let me know if you're interested.  Big smile
 
Seriously, I don't believe we should look at our reviews as a load of slop that is disposible, if we do, then why bother?  We should attempt to present the site as a good place for well-written reviews, as our competitors generally do.  Certainly people's talents vary, and everyone is welcome here.  I realize that.  If you couldn't tell my 47% thing was a bit of a joke, then who's being too serious?
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Originally posted by Finnforest Finnforest wrote:

Pretty weak review David, but so are 47% of the reviews on this site, including some of mine.  I'd volunteer to be "quality-control" if they gave me the power to nuke poor quality reviews....but we all know that job won't happenLOL
47 % ? What mathematical formula did you use to arrive at this figure? As far as I`ve always seen it these reviews are amatuer reviews. For that matter, any review for anything a play, film, concert are amatuer reviews. Even if I see a poorly written review or a really radical one, if it says something then what`s the bloody fuss? Even if it just says " what f***** piece of sonic wreckage" it`s saying something very direct. We`re not a bunch of Roger Eberts here.Sometimes it`s even more interesting coming here to see reviews of the reviews Wink. It`s even getting to the point where we`re reviewing the reviews of the reviews Confused
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Is this that dude that's everywhere and super strongly for Pink Floyd?

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Snow Dog Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 16 2009 at 05:39
Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

my issue was with the review itself and how he chose to express his thoughts - which were legitimate but could have been expressed much better IMO - more than his opinion of the album, but I apologize to Conor for being harsh about it.. and this should be in Reviews Discussion anyway, sooo





I'm with you on this. Its an appalling review.Wink
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