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Petrovsk Mizinski
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Posted: June 27 2009 at 04:00 |
Moatilliatta wrote:
^That's true too. I'm not really all about innovation, I'm more into music that is genuinely inspired and performed by passionate musicians. And usually, if the musicians are inspired enough, they'll find a way to make their own sound.
Long Distance Calling appears to be on their way to their own sound, but Avoid the Light didn't quite have an identity of its own, within the album itself and compared to other bands in the genre. There was some good stuff there to be certain, but I think they're still an album away from really hitting the mark. But I'm open to giving it a couple more plays. |
Well certainly I don't think my solo project is exactly going to be a whole new sound, but then again, no artist has ever really made something TOTALLY new, even the most innovative of bands, like maybe Meshuggah for example was influenced by thrash metal and groove metal bands before them. The way I look at things, if my solo project was just going to be a straight ahead post metal album in the Isis or Pelican vein, or a post rock album in the vein of Mogwai or Mono that would be disingenuous I think, because while I like that music and all, that doesn't really represent what I do when I pick up a guitar. When I pick up a guitar and think "play post metal" it doesn't work, because suddenly I'll have post rock coming out, I'll have post hardcore style coming out and all sorts of other stuff. Sure, as wikipedia says about post rock/metal ,"It is the use of 'rock instrumentation' for non-rock purposes", but I'm not purely a textural player, I like to break up those "non rock" moments with more traditional riffing moments because that's who I am as a guitarist and musician. I guess in a sense I'm lucky knowing I wont sell many copies of this album, which means I have no obligations to stay inside one musical box, I don't have to make it sound like I'm going through the motions for the sake of a record to fulfill a contract and feed a family because I'm not on a label. What I really just wanted to do, is to mix up all those influences and musical ideas inside of me, and create something that represents where my head is at musically and as I said, ultimately it wont wind up being confined to one distinct genre because that doesn't feel natural to me right now. Also j wanted to use the 7 string guitar since it's still an uncommon instrument and breaking the mold of using a 6 string and effectively allowing me to do things that 90 per cent of other guitarists (well, maybe 90 per cent only play 6 strings, just a guess out of the air) wont be doing.
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Petrovsk Mizinski
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Joined: December 24 2007
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Posted: June 27 2009 at 04:02 |
Lol @double post I didn't even notice
Edited by Petrovsk Mizinski - June 29 2009 at 02:03
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Dim
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Posted: June 28 2009 at 20:10 |
LOL double post!
I know how you feel. I dont pick up a guitar and plan on playing technical metal though. Thats not me, I dont have this urge to make crazy riffs over and over. When I pick up my guitar, usually I play metal kind of like Cult of Luna. Lots of chord progressions and lead lines to go over them with lots of deay. I dont consider myself a lead player, but not strictly textural either.
This is a little off topic, but I have a friend who for some reason refuses to play anything original. He always has to play a riff or progression from another song, and it's aggravating to play guitar or drum to him cause it's always the same thing, and you dont really do anything creative or fun, whereas I like making my own stuff and bouncing my ideas off other musicians. Anyone else know where I'm coming from?
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Dominic
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Posted: June 29 2009 at 00:02 |
Dim wrote:
I dont pick up a guitar and plan on playing technical metal though. Thats not me, I dont have this urge to make crazy riffs over and over. |
Why not!?
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Atavachron
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Posted: June 29 2009 at 00:11 |
just added real good English math band Helsingfors - http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=4614
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Petrovsk Mizinski
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Posted: June 29 2009 at 03:01 |
Dim wrote:
LOL double post!
I know how you feel. I dont pick up a guitar and plan on playing technical metal though. Thats not me, I dont have this urge to make crazy riffs over and over. When I pick up my guitar, usually I play metal kind of like Cult of Luna. Lots of chord progressions and lead lines to go over them with lots of deay. I dont consider myself a lead player, but not strictly textural either.
This is a little off topic, but I have a friend who for some reason refuses to play anything original. He always has to play a riff or progression from another song, and it's aggravating to play guitar or drum to him cause it's always the same thing, and you dont really do anything creative or fun, whereas I like making my own stuff and bouncing my ideas off other musicians. Anyone else know where I'm coming from? |
I guess it's a combination of things really. Some people are more experienced musicians and have been exposed to a wider range of music. Throughout my life I've been lucky to have been exposed to a lot of different music, from indie rock, post rock/metal, punk, metal, jazz, classical and the sub genres and stuff in between that, because of the friends I have, because of my sister and my dad and because I'm the kind of person who loves to dig deeper than just what's easy to find and easily digest-able. Some people are just less imaginative perhaps, who knows? I'm sure if the dudes digs deeper, gets out more and plays with other musicians and becomes more "worldly" in his approach to music, he can start letting go of those same riff patterns and progressions he takes directly from songs and starts making things of his own.
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Dominic
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Posted: June 30 2009 at 16:41 |
So, in other news, i have some advice for everyone: Never order anything directly from "These Monsters..." label "Children No More". It's been over a month since i paid for my order and they won't even give my emails a response to boot.
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Dim
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Posted: June 30 2009 at 22:42 |
Sounds like you're getting ripped off. Have they even acknowledged the fact that you gave them money?
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Dominic
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Posted: July 01 2009 at 00:22 |
Just a PayPal receipt Yeah, it's not too fun; i was trying to give them the benefit of the doubt, but i believe i'm gonna get in contact with PayPal by the end of the week
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r-u-n
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Posted: July 01 2009 at 07:55 |
Wow, a monster thread on PR/PM! I'm quite new to this genre, 2 or 3 years maybe, and I like the following: Isis, Russian Circles ,Red Sparowes, Rosetta, Pelican, and Neurosis, among a few others I may have forgotten. I guess I've a lot of research to do.
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Dim
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Posted: July 01 2009 at 10:06 |
You're just as new to the genre as I am! Welcome to the thread, an island of post amongst a sea of prog. Looks like you got lost of research to do. Check out this will destroy you, they're one of my favorites right now!
Seeing explosions in the sky on the 4th of July!
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Plankowner
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Posted: July 01 2009 at 10:48 |
Dominic wrote:
So, in other news, i have some advice for everyone: Never order anything directly from "These Monsters..." label "Children No More". It's been over a month since i paid for my order and they won't even give my emails a response to boot. |
I ordered an LP from them months ago without any problems..
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Jake Kobrin
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Posted: July 01 2009 at 17:17 |
A review I wrote for Sigur Rós' ( ):
( ) - Sigur Rós Year: 2002 Label: FatCat Country: Iceland Genre: Avant-Garde Ambient/Post-Rock Tracklist 1. Untitled I [Vaka] (6:38) 2. Untitled II [Fyrsta] (7:33) 3. Untitled III [Samskeyti] (6:33) 4. Untitled IV [Njósnavélin] (7:32) 5. Untitled V [Álafoss] (9:57) 6. Untitled VI [E-bow] (8:48) 7. Untitled VII [Daudalagio] (12:59) 8. Untitled VIII [Popplagio] (11:45) Total Time: 71:45
"The most beautiful music that has ever graced my ears."
This is one of the few albums in my collection in which I hold a very
meaningful and emotional connection with. I often listen to this album
in times of sorrow, stress, or "angst" because of it's incredible power
to carry my soul away from this universe. That is not to say that it
cannot be enjoyed within a brighter mindset (and I have, many times),
but it has an uncanny ability to cleanse my spirits in times of
darkness. Once the melancholic hymns of Untitled I (Vaka)
sound, an amazing progression of emotional (and if I was of faith I
would state, undoubtedly, "spiritual") excavation is undergone and by
the time that the resounding piano of Untitled III (Samskeyti)
is processed through my eardrums, I have truly drifted away from the
universe... drifting... as if in a dream... these melancholy hymns
guiding me through this mild state of astral projection until I am
utterly lost within this sweet reverie.
This album contains a rare form of beauty. It is, in my opinion, the
most beautiful album ever created. But what this album contains, is not
your "average" beauty. It is an exchange that I believe only Sigur Rós
, as detached as they are from the superficiality of modern (and more
specifically American) culture, could present. What this album contains
is an honest and thorough beauty... it is the beauty of falling into
the arms of a lover that you have passionately and strenuously longed
to be with... it is the beauty of experiencing a dream that you have
forever wished for... it is the beauty of positive reflection at the
end of a life... it is all of these things and more, all contained
within the aural pulsations of the compositions.
I honestly pity those that have bestowed a low rating upon this album,
as they will never experience the power of these sounds. I wouldn't
trade the feelings I experience when listening to ( ) for anything in the world...
5 stars is an understatement...
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Equality 7-2521
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Posted: July 01 2009 at 17:19 |
You should have mentioned how beautiful it was.
Good review except Takk is better.
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Dim
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Posted: July 01 2009 at 18:03 |
I agree with everything you've said. One of my favorites of all time.
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Moatilliatta
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Posted: July 01 2009 at 23:42 |
Equality 7-2521 wrote:
You should have mentioned how beautiful it was.
Good review except Takk is better. |
Yea, its beauty is its best characteristic. You have to make note of that.
Also, wrong. They're equal, maybe.
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Jake Kobrin
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Posted: July 02 2009 at 01:49 |
( ) > Agaetis Byrjun > Takk... > That dual album thing that I forget the name of >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Med Sud > Von Haven't heard the 2009/2010 album yet.
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Moatilliatta
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Posted: July 02 2009 at 02:22 |
^Hmmm, I'd rank them as follows (studio full-lengths only):
( ) > Takk... > Agaetis Byrjun > Med Sud >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Von
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Jake Kobrin
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Posted: July 02 2009 at 09:43 |
Heima is the best thing they've ever done though.
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Equality 7-2521
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Posted: July 02 2009 at 10:23 |
Takk > Med Sud > Aeg > () >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Von
I like happy Sigur Ros more than melancholy Sigur Ros
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