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Points: 19552 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 26 2009 at 12:15
Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

 
You seriously react as it was a personal attack against you.
 
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Not at all Theo
 
That I understand. Now remember that most of the original gangsta rappers where born in slums, in the 'hood, where policemen stopped them just for being black (there's this running joke where one of the major crimes in black neighborhoods is "driving while black"), where abuse and violence has been againbts them for ages, from slavery they went to being oppresed by the white cop and by crack cocaine which the white man introduced in their neighborhoods.... What they sung is what they feel and what they saw... It's kind of logical to want to kill a cop when all your life cops have been abusing your community.
 
Bravo,we must understand why this people kill a cop, lets make them a monument....Please Theo, that's not an excuse, people giving instructuions on how to kill a cop are CRIMINALS.
 
Lets decriminalize killing a cop because people is opressed,,,,,,But hey, not only rappers, Jewishs were killed by the Nazis, lets allow them to kill militaries...and Native Americans were wiped by the white man, lets allow them to take revenge.
 
We are experts justifying everything, killing is killing and promoting homicide is a crime.
 
Please Theo this is absurb this criminals make this lyrics because there are idiots who buy it, they would rap about Billy Graham if he was a popular issue.
 
 In Peru. The country we are talking abouty is the united States, where they are entitled to say whatever stupid thing they want to say. I Thank your god for freedom of speech.
 
That's why you have shootings and we don't, we have other kind of vilolence, it's time to care more about the rights of the innocent and honest citizen.
 
. Sometimes I get those ideas. May be an exaggeration of course.
 
Most surely
 
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Points: 573 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 26 2009 at 12:23
Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:


It probably depends on where you live; I am not aware that those bands are well-known here. And even if they were, it would not mean much for me; Coheed and Cambria, for example, are in my opinion a very questionable addition to the archives.


Yeah, that would make sense. And my point was more relative than that - C&C aren't exactly my favourite band either, but I would rather them than Nirvana, for example.
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Points: 17493 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 26 2009 at 18:51

I'm obviously not justifying violence, but giving a reason for lyrics like "f**k tha police" or "cop killer" or things like that.... When you grow sorrounded by violence it's difficult to always see the bright side of life. Of course, once their songs were succesful it became a business....

The shootings part has more to do with the narcissistic individualistic way of thinking of americans and the availability of guns... obviously, violent lyrics don't help but both are different sides of the problem.... most School shootings have not been only in poor-slums material but actually white suburbs...  
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Points: 19552 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 26 2009 at 19:12
Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

I'm obviously not justifying violence, but giving a reason for lyrics like "f**k tha police" or "cop killer" or things like that.... When you grow sorrounded by violence it's difficult to always see the bright side of life. Of course, once their songs were succesful it became a business....

The shootings part has more to do with the narcissistic individualistic way of thinking of americans and the availability of guns... obviously, violent lyrics don't help but both are different sides of the problem.... most School shootings have not been only in poor-slums material but actually white suburbs...  

 
Exactly my point, you said you understand why poor people surrounded by violence can say kill the cop, but that violence is affecting not only the poor people who was born surrounded by crack, this violence in music and media has reached everybofdy.
 
That's why that crap is wrong, for the poor and the wealthy people.
 
Plus Theo, the guys who write this crap are covered with money, they complain against the system hat allowed them to have several milllion dollars while people who break their backs working can't.
 
This people are posers, they sell this violence to the poor or the rich guy because it's profitable, the money is the same doesn't matter from where it comes for them.
 
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Points: 7606 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 26 2009 at 20:17
i hardly like any music at all
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