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Poll Question: What's more important - the music or the cover art?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 15 2009 at 02:37
^ I hated the fan noise of my previous PC ... so with my current one I made sure that it's very silent, and so far I'm really happy with it. Of course it's not 100% silent - but then again when you listen to vinyls it's not completely silent either. Usually I listen at a decent volume, so that noise in the room is negligible. BTW: My refrigerator is louder than my PC ...

As a side note: People are different. I can tolerate the noise of my computer, but I'll be annoyed when I watch a movie with friends or in a theater, and someone eats popcorn.Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 15 2009 at 02:45
Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:


Our homes definitely would be less "home" if it was all on the computer.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 15 2009 at 03:02
Originally posted by Petrovsk Mizinski Petrovsk Mizinski wrote:

Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:


Our homes definitely would be less "home" if it was all on the computer.


No, just your homeBig smile


No, our homes.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 15 2009 at 03:05
Originally posted by WalterDigsTunes WalterDigsTunes wrote:

Originally posted by Petrovsk Mizinski Petrovsk Mizinski wrote:

Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:


Our homes definitely would be less "home" if it was all on the computer.


No, just your homeBig smile


No, our homes.
Some peoples homes.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 15 2009 at 03:07
Originally posted by crimson87 crimson87 wrote:

Originally posted by manofmystery manofmystery wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Exhibit 1:
 
 
...how many people bought that in the 70s because of the Patrick Woodruff's artwork rather than Dave Greenslade's music? (hint: lots)

I did!!!

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Beautiful.......but the exception rather than the rule.

I took mine back actually. Its such quiet music and the crackles on the vinyl drove me nuts! Plus I thought it a wee bit boring.Embarrassed
 
Vinyl is the only format with any value to the cover art/booklet, CDs are just too small
 
From now on I hate CDs with a passion!!! Vinyl is the only way to go!!

No way!! If I wanted to hear the sound of bacon frying I'd have breakfast!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 15 2009 at 03:22
Originally posted by WalterDigsTunes WalterDigsTunes wrote:

Originally posted by Petrovsk Mizinski Petrovsk Mizinski wrote:

Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:


Our homes definitely would be less "home" if it was all on the computer.


No, just your homeBig smile


No, our homes.


Pre 1989 artists
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 15 2009 at 03:44
Originally posted by Petrovsk Mizinski Petrovsk Mizinski wrote:

Originally posted by WalterDigsTunes WalterDigsTunes wrote:

Originally posted by Petrovsk Mizinski Petrovsk Mizinski wrote:

Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:


Our homes definitely would be less "home" if it was all on the computer.


No, just your homeBig smile


No, our homes.


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Are the only legitimate ones, the only ones that ought to be purchased and consumed (in any form).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 15 2009 at 03:50
Originally posted by WalterDigsTunes WalterDigsTunes wrote:

Originally posted by Petrovsk Mizinski Petrovsk Mizinski wrote:

Originally posted by WalterDigsTunes WalterDigsTunes wrote:

Originally posted by Petrovsk Mizinski Petrovsk Mizinski wrote:

Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:


Our homes definitely would be less "home" if it was all on the computer.


No, just your homeBig smile


No, our homes.


Pre 1989 artists


Are the only legitimate ones, the only ones that ought to be purchased and consumed (in any form).

I didn't know that....thank you!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 15 2009 at 08:48
I prefer the music but I enjoy cover art and booklet(even if it's less magnificent on cd's when talking about Roger Dean or Paul Whitehead artworks)that's why I keep buying cds.Moreover my goal is to constitute a marvellous  musical collection and give it to a library(part of my testament)in order to try and spread prog and peace after passing away.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 15 2009 at 12:01
The music is definitely more important to me.  Eventually I am going to switch over to downloading my music, as in most cases the sound quality is very good in downloads and they're cheaper, but for now I'm still buying CDs as I'm still young and have a fairly small collection (only ~150-200 I'd guess), and I'd like to have a giant "wall of sound" as someone posted earlier in the thread.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 15 2009 at 12:48
^ You mean a "wall of CDs"? Wink

Another strategy to consider: Only buy the most important albums as CD, and the rest as download. That way you'll save some money and still build a great collection over time.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 15 2009 at 13:23
Originally posted by Mr ProgFreak Mr ProgFreak wrote:

^ I hated the fan noise of my previous PC ... so with my current one I made sure that it's very silent, and so far I'm really happy with it. Of course it's not 100% silent - but then again when you listen to vinyls it's not completely silent either. Usually I listen at a decent volume, so that noise in the room is negligible. BTW: My refrigerator is louder than my PC ...

As a side note: People are different. I can tolerate the noise of my computer, but I'll be annoyed when I watch a movie with friends or in a theater, and someone eats popcorn.Wink

Crap, will we ever be able to win the war against external noise sources?  I swear when it comes to speakers, it's the stand up fan, the attic fan, or the computer fan.  Come to think of it fans are probably the bane of most prog fans.  Headphones are your friend. LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 15 2009 at 14:43
Originally posted by topofsm topofsm wrote:

Originally posted by Rocktopus Rocktopus wrote:


I voted for cover and booklet, but of course the music is generally more important
 
Then why would you vote for cover and booklet?Confused Obviously it's just a poll but if music is more important then why booklet/cover?


Because I don't want to give Mike the vote he is fishing for.

He gives two alternatives: the first option = The answer he wants, 2 = Impossible to choose.

I think I explained my problems with the poll well enough in my first post.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 15 2009 at 14:49
I've mentioned a lot recently, that I'd NEVER pay for downloads. That'd not be part of my collection. If I could, I would destroy the possibility of legal music downloading (non-free).
 
The booklet and the artwork are at least 25% of the fan, by the way.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 15 2009 at 14:50
Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

Originally posted by Mr ProgFreak Mr ProgFreak wrote:

^ I hated the fan noise of my previous PC ... so with my current one I made sure that it's very silent, and so far I'm really happy with it. Of course it's not 100% silent - but then again when you listen to vinyls it's not completely silent either. Usually I listen at a decent volume, so that noise in the room is negligible. BTW: My refrigerator is louder than my PC ...

As a side note: People are different. I can tolerate the noise of my computer, but I'll be annoyed when I watch a movie with friends or in a theater, and someone eats popcorn.Wink

Crap, will we ever be able to win the war against external noise sources?  I swear when it comes to speakers, it's the stand up fan, the attic fan, or the computer fan.  Come to think of it fans are probably the bane of most prog fans.  Headphones are your friend. LOL

You can't be secure from external noises unless you are on the moon with your CD-player and listen to the music with headphones. And even then the sound of your own breathing might disturb you, so there is only one solution (sound of gunshot). LOL


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 15 2009 at 15:08
Originally posted by Rocktopus Rocktopus wrote:

Originally posted by topofsm topofsm wrote:

Originally posted by Rocktopus Rocktopus wrote:


I voted for cover and booklet, but of course the music is generally more important
 
Then why would you vote for cover and booklet?Confused Obviously it's just a poll but if music is more important then why booklet/cover?


Because I don't want to give Mike the vote he is fishing for.

He gives two alternatives: the first option = The answer he wants, 2 = Impossible to choose.

I think I explained my problems with the poll well enough in my first post.




And that's exactly why I created the other poll.Smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 15 2009 at 15:15
Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

Originally posted by Mr ProgFreak Mr ProgFreak wrote:

^ I hated the fan noise of my previous PC ... so with my current one I made sure that it's very silent, and so far I'm really happy with it. Of course it's not 100% silent - but then again when you listen to vinyls it's not completely silent either. Usually I listen at a decent volume, so that noise in the room is negligible. BTW: My refrigerator is louder than my PC ...

As a side note: People are different. I can tolerate the noise of my computer, but I'll be annoyed when I watch a movie with friends or in a theater, and someone eats popcorn.Wink

Crap, will we ever be able to win the war against external noise sources?  I swear when it comes to speakers, it's the stand up fan, the attic fan, or the computer fan.  Come to think of it fans are probably the bane of most prog fans.  Headphones are your friend. LOL

You can't be secure from external noises unless you are on the moon with your CD-player and listen to the music with headphones. And even then the sound of your own breathing might disturb you, so there is only one solution (sound of gunshot). LOL
There is a difference between stochastic noise, impulse noise and repetitive noise and how they interact with the listening experience. The human brain is capable of blocking out repetitive noise such as a whirring fan - the problem for listening to music is that process will also filter out much of the music content at the same time.
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Originally posted by Diaby Diaby wrote:

I've mentioned a lot recently, that I'd NEVER pay for downloads. That'd not be part of my collection. If I could, I would destroy the possibility of legal music downloading (non-free).
 
The booklet and the artwork are at least 25% of the fan, by the way.


So if I buy the download that makes me a lesser fan? Maybe because the download costs less? Ok, I could see that ... but I'm also getting less "overhead". Today booklet and cover art are often (but not always) done by artist who have very little connection to the band. I'd speculate that sometimes even the record label has a big word in what the album will look like, since it greatly affects the sales.

I think that it's quite ok to not put the cover art and plastic case (face it, "jewel case" is a euphemism) on that high a pedestal.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 15 2009 at 15:17
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

There is a difference between stochastic noise, impulse noise and repetitive noise and how they interact with the listening experience. The human brain is capable of blocking out repetitive noise such as a whirring fan - the problem for listening to music is that process will also filter out much of the music content at the same time.


My old computer had a small fan on the mainboard ... it was *so* annoying because it would emit a high pitch tinnitus-like sound that would vary subtly (it would shift pitch/phase). When I bought the new computer I made sure that the mainboard didn't have a fan.LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 15 2009 at 15:38
Originally posted by Mr ProgFreak Mr ProgFreak wrote:

Originally posted by Diaby Diaby wrote:

I've mentioned a lot recently, that I'd NEVER pay for downloads. That'd not be part of my collection. If I could, I would destroy the possibility of legal music downloading (non-free).
 
The booklet and the artwork are at least 25% of the fan, by the way.


So if I buy the download that makes me a lesser fan? Maybe because the download costs less? Ok, I could see that ... but I'm also getting less "overhead". Today booklet and cover art are often (but not always) done by artist who have very little connection to the band. I'd speculate that sometimes even the record label has a big word in what the album will look like, since it greatly affects the sales.

I think that it's quite ok to not put the cover art and plastic case (face it, "jewel case" is a euphemism) on that high a pedestal.
 
You're not a lesser fan even if you can't afford buying anything and download illegally. But this "paying individually for tracks" gives more strength to the attitude towards music today: if I heard a song yesterday on the radio, I go and download it, without knowing anything 'bout the artist and the ALBUM (which format is dying, there are only very few who can listen to an album from the first minute to the last).
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