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    Posted: June 08 2009 at 01:17

I suppose when I'm 20 years old, current pop/hophop generation is mine. 

In a topic about meeting with Rick Wakeman I wanted to write this, but it grew and so I maked new topic.

It's sad thing. You said [rihana] and that's absolutely right person as a delegate of what is "in" now. It really leaves me in little bit desperate shape (what exactly IS desperate shape?). When you compare him (Rick) and her, even back in '60s when they had same age. His quality, importance in rock music and his person in general is ... no words needed guys, you know what I mean :- ) but how can be majority of current generation so much confused. Confused by imposters

In past times, maybe medieval times, they were listening to classical music. I mostly like classical music. Or acoustic instruments like guitar, lute, citar, these ones. Then came jazz which is quite good and relaxating, blues which I likes a lot (it's like rocking) and swing which I don't mind. Rock'n'roll of course I can handle, classic rock and then prog rock. Prog rock is my main source of music so leave it when it is. 

But times has changes. Punk music has it's boom back in '70, I suppose end of decade (right or not?). I can listen to punk, but not too much since I consider this music as "not good for Marty" as it lacks prog elements (they can't be found there even in microscopic sizes, meant just for headbanging. But as I said, I sometimes listen to it. We had also reggage music, well, in my eyes it's music of stoners, mostly because of in this times it's like that.

Metal is not bad, heavy metal like Deep Purple is really good. Or Black Sabbath, Zeppelins. But speed metal is worse. Yeah, first two Keepers of the Seven Keys are good, but their later albums are not so good. And trash ? not good for Marty, death/doom metal ? What is point of this idiocy ? It's only about playing so loud that nobody can differ which instruments you are using. And also growling voice which can't be heard because it would surely doom me for my eternity. Oh boy, why has this genre so many followers.

And I don't have to say anything about this hop hop, hop pop, r and b (which inferiously twisted rhytm and blues to rhytm and beat sh.t), pop in general, do I ?




I'm sure I've just insulted someone, so please don't be insulted, it just because of lack of my facts. I like progressive music because it's hard to listen this music. I can't listen all prog music, but I'm trying to.

Mars Volta as a next checkpoint ? I will prevail and will keep on trying to get this artist, because this has meaning. He is good, now I will se if he's good for me too. For now he is not. But for fuc.ing sake (what is alternative to christs?) hop hop music ? It can't be good, right ?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 08 2009 at 10:56

Hey, I'm 20 years old also. Yeah the state of our generation in terms of music is terrible, HOWEVER, one needs to look past all of that superficiality and blatant advertising and musical conditioning. There is no sense on dwelling on the hopeless because until marketers find a way to make prog appeal to the majority and make huge profits off of it, they will never listen to prog.

In terms of different types of music, ALL types of music are good in my opinion, some you just have to search very hard, others you have to search very VERY hard, but it is there. Take hip-hop for example. I found an artist by the name of Dans le Sac vs Scroobius Pip, I think he/they is/are great. Great lyrical material, catchy beats and background music, I love it.
 
The key is being truly open to music. That means realizing that music is art and this art presents itself in many different ways, some in the form of 9/8 and 11/8 metric modulations, others in the form of that southern twang, whisky drinking (or not) chicken pickers, and others taking turns blowing over Coltrane changes. Some artist meld as much as they can into one, and this is a very attractive aspect of prog for me. Restricting ones artistic expression is detrimental to freedom, and makes things more dull in general. 
 
The most important things is searching for it though, don't let supposed "poster boys" of a certain types of music turn you away from the whole picture. The are tons of country artists I dislike, metal I dislike, rock I dislike, however there are many I do like, and I can thank hard, dilligent searching for that.
 
Great music has always existed in many forms and will continue to do so in my opinion, just cut off that need to be a part of this generation's cesspool of musical interests (forced onto them from the media in most cases) and embrace the gift that is music, no matter what form it takes.
 
Mars Volta is great btw. I hated them at first because I didn't give them a chance.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 08 2009 at 11:59
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What's with these kids these days with their clothes and their hair?


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 08 2009 at 12:16
Every generation comes up with "What's the matter with the kids today?" one day; just listen to the Guru Guru song of the same title from their 1978 double live album. What's interesting here is that one of the kids him/herself comes up with it.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 08 2009 at 12:28
This is what most kids in my school perceive listeners of Classic Rock as... (which includes lots of Prog Rock)

http://www.oldhippie.de/images/old_hippie_very_old_hippies_1.jpg
Here's what the Classic Rock generation thinks of us...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 08 2009 at 12:59
Originally posted by OzzProg OzzProg wrote:

This is what most kids in my school perceive listeners of Classic Rock as... (which includes lots of Prog Rock)

http://www.oldhippie.de/images/old_hippie_very_old_hippies_1.jpg
Here's what the Classic Rock generation thinks of us...






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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 08 2009 at 13:27
im 21 and think "whats wrong with my generation?" especially pertaining to music and related things...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 08 2009 at 13:39
What's funny is that my brother, who's about 3 years older than me, had a bunch of friends that were in to prog.  Almost none of my "peers" were.  So I wound up becoming friends with his friends. LOL

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 08 2009 at 14:44

I'm 30 and the only person who listens to the same music is my 50 year old father.Coincidentally we both found out about Porcupine Tree separatly but but about two weeks apart.This was about seven years ago and it changed both of our lives.

As far as the current state of music goes it's s@*t in the mainstream and it will probaly always be so but the best music continues to be the stuff you have to search for.For me that's one of the best parts for me and that's the fun of discovering underground/hard to find music.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 08 2009 at 14:51
Originally posted by lazland lazland wrote:



http://www.oldhippie.de/images/old_hippie_very_old_hippies_1.jpg


Why do I get the feeling the dude isn't wearing anything else under his shirt? LOL
I have an old Grateful Dead tie die in that color scheme.  Wore it so often I had to retire it.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 08 2009 at 15:53
I'm 16. As has been said before, I can't say everything they play on the radio these days is bad. However, I can say the grand majority of it is, at least to these ears. I really don't know what makes young prog fans like us deviant, but if there's two things that seem to do it, it's parents that listen to lots of classic rock (prog or not) and inteligence. Personaly, I've never met a dumb prog fan. I just can't get into all of the repetition of beats and the risqué lyrics of hip hop, or the general sound of alt or indie rock. Prog offers me somthing more substantial, something to chew on for a while, and most of my high school peers refuse to try something new. It's a shame. I've introduced my friends to prog, and some of the more accesable stuff like Yes and Jethro Tull have become really popular in my clique (Kraotrock, not so much). Got to try and spread the love!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 08 2009 at 15:56
When it comes to commercial radio stations, I'm not surprised.  You might have some good college stations in your area though.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 08 2009 at 16:01
Originally posted by darkshade darkshade wrote:

im 21 and think "whats wrong with my generation?" especially pertaining to music and related things...


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 08 2009 at 16:04
I'm 16, and I think the most popular artists of my generation have no talent whatsoever.  I much prefer listening to classic rock as opposed to the rap/hip-hop/pop music of today.

I remember bringing up a similar response on a different forum, so I'll just copy/paste it.

Originally posted by Calculate900 Calculate900 wrote:

Back in January, I went to a winter prom with my girlfriend, and the DJs played the worst possible songs: all rap, no slow dances, three rock. I was severely disappointed, mostly because I was expecting slow dances, but the most significant reason was because they played what they "thought" the kids were into these days, and they were proven wrong (at least by our standards). This has happened at several other places. Skating rinks, parties, you name it. It's a hasty generalization, and it's inaccurate.

I hate the current pop/rap scene because, not only do hundreds/thousands flock to it, but also because others EXPECT us to. If some stranger asks me what I'm listening to on my iPod, the last answer they'll expect is Led Zeppelin.


That's not to say I hate all of today's music.  I like bands like Dream Theater, System of a Down, Flogging Molly, etc.  But I never found rap likable (outside of bands like Red Hot Chili Peppers and Rage Against the Machine).


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 08 2009 at 16:05
I just don't care.
People will make good music regardless of what is popular.
Especially now with the Internet, radio and the Billboard charts are worthless.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 08 2009 at 16:09
I find it funny that when people talk about today's music they talk about rap and hiphop as if there's nothing else there.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 08 2009 at 16:32
I'm 21 now, but I've never considered the generic pop or hip hop they play on the radio to be "the music of my generation". If I had to take a wild guess, I'd say this generation will be know as the indie rock generation, even though there's nothing new about indie rock and it's not even a genre. Maybe I haven't paid enough attention, but I think it's been awhile since anything innovative happened in music.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 08 2009 at 16:32
I eschew all of the silly piffle that's deceitfully referred to as "music" these days. I only listen to real music, and you know what? I'm a better person because of it. You don't need to hop on any bandwagon or partake in the narcosis of the current age: go for the good stuff and you're right as rain.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 08 2009 at 16:33
Originally posted by WalterDigsTunes WalterDigsTunes wrote:

I eschew all of the silly piffle that's deceitfully referred to as "music" these days. I only listen to real music, and you know what? I'm a better person because of it. You don't need to hop on any bandwagon or partake in the narcosis of the current age: go for the good stuff and you're right as rain.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 08 2009 at 16:35
Originally posted by WalterDigsTunes WalterDigsTunes wrote:

I eschew all of the silly piffle that's deceitfully referred to as "music" these days. I only listen to real music, and you know what? I'm a better person because of it. You don't need to hop on any bandwagon or partake in the narcosis of the current age: go for the good stuff and you're right as rain.
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