Religious lyrics ?

Tony R wrote: Ok. For the last time. We have been ordered to remove lyrics posted on the forum in the past, so PLEASE restrict lyric-quoting to a few lines. Maybe these people should pick on the millions of lyric sites on the internet, but... You know, I shouldn't have to go to all this trouble to spell it out.

Why do I get the feeling I've stepped on fire ant mound?


"Ice is moving and world's begun to freeze
see the sunlight stopped and deadened by the breeze
Minds are empty bodies move insensitive
some believe that when they die they really live"

Genesis from Tresspass one paragraph excerpt.


Edited by Slartibartfast - May 31 2009 at 13:22

ghost_of_morphy wrote: Now, see, that's not fair use.  You aren't discussing the excerpt or reviewing it or parodying it or anything along those lines. Your just posting it because you think it's neat and others might think it's neat and to thumb your nose at a law you don't like.

Anyway Startibast, if you:

Edited by Ivan_Melgar_M - May 31 2009 at 13:47

Yeah civil law is ridiculous in general. It's really guilty til you go to hell and back to prove your innocence. If I just randomly accuse some one of breaking a civil law, it automatically puts the burden of proof on them. That's why frivolous lawsuits abound. Sue the right entity/person and they'll just settle out of court rather than go thru the trouble to prove innocence. It's how certain corporations make a living.

Best post? I'm a bit baffled as to how someone could ever say that religion hasn't served the artists of mankind. Maybe he's getting at something different, but that is completely absurd. If you were to compile a list of the greatest, or at least most well-known, works of art throughout history, I guarantee you that the vast majority of them would be religious in nature. We could be talking about the Parthenon, Michaelangelo's painting of the cathedral ceiling, J.S. Bach ('nuff said)... and that's only dealing with European culture! To say that religion hasn't served the artists of mankind is both baffling and flat-out wrong.

As for religion serving the knowledge of mankind, that's an entirely different debate that is rather off-topic.


Edited by KingCrimson250 - May 31 2009 at 18:42

[QUOTE=KingCrimson250] Best post? I'm a bit baffled as to how someone could ever say that religion hasn't served the artists of mankind. Maybe he's getting at something different, but that is completely absurd. If you were to compile a list of the greatest, or at least most well-known, works of art throughout history, I guarantee you that the vast majority of them would be religious in nature. We could be talking about the Parthenon, Michaelangelo's painting of the cathedral ceiling, J.S. Bach ('nuff said)... and that's only dealing with European culture! To say that religion hasn't served the artists of mankind is both baffling and flat-out wrong.

Excellent contribution

Evolver wrote: KingCrimson250 wrote: Best post? I'm a bit baffled as to how someone could ever say that religion hasn't served the artists of mankind. Maybe he's getting at something different, but that is completely absurd. If you were to compile a list of the greatest, or at least most well-known, works of art throughout history, I guarantee you that the vast majority of them would be religious in nature. We could be talking about the Parthenon, Michaelangelo's painting of the cathedral ceiling, J.S. Bach ('nuff said)... and that's only dealing with European culture! To say that religion hasn't served the artists of mankind is both baffling and flat-out wrong. As for religion serving the knowledge of mankind, that's an entirely different debate that is rather off-topic. Nicely stated.  It's quite probable that without religion, fine art and music would still have developed throughout history, but it is impossible to deny that many of the masterworks we know were highly influenced by the various religions of the world.  Take Handel's "Messiah", for instance, a fantastic piece of music, whatever the message.   This may sound like an about face from my earlier debates, but I already stated that amazing music transcends it's lyrics.

I've been totally bitch slapped, say no more say no more say no more.

Slartibartfast wrote: I've been totally bitch slapped, say no more say no more say no more.

While I think it's utterly ridiculous to not be able to post properly attributed and credited lyrics in a forum specifically for discussion purposes with no intent to profit from them, I completely understand the Admin's decision (and certainly the site administrators desire to not have unpleasant and possibly costly legal notices).

All art is a result of borrowing, in some form or another, from previous art and artists.  This is the nature of progress in general.  It's not surprising that lawyers and corporations see this as a problem (i.e., how can something be created, and not generate profit?).  A sad commentary on our modern world.

(for the record, I have no problem with music and lyrics of my songs being used for anything short of profit......but understand other artists may have different notions)