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Poll Question: Drugs: Important in 60s and 70s music or not?
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    Posted: May 18 2009 at 12:15
So the full question here is: do you believe that drugs were an important factor in music evolution back in the 60s and 70s or not and why? Do you think that  drugs played their role (big or not) by affecting inspiration and generally by changing the way of understanding and writing music and lyrics or not? Was their role big or small?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 18 2009 at 13:35
Adding a bit of controversy, are we...? Don't mind if I do.

For quite some time I've thought that psychoactive drugs and music are linked. It seems that very many genres of music have a drug to go along with them! Now I seriously don't wish to offend anyone, but both New Orleans during prohibition and the island of Jamaica have plenty of pot smokers, and we have jazz and reggae partly (I believe) because of this. Ecstasy users have various sub genres of electronic dance music suitable for them. Obviously hallucinogens affected musicians in the experimental psychedelic era, and I think the musicians would tell you this. And
the rise in cocaine use pretty much explains what the hell happened in the 80's... the list goes on!

I figure if you have a change in consciousness you might perceive music differently. The way the brain processes music under the influence of drugs is different from the way normal brains do, but I'm not sure how (and can't be bothered to go into detail now).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 18 2009 at 14:46
Well, my favourite Black Sabbath album is Vol. 4.
Then did they do the most drugs? Vol.4.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 18 2009 at 14:56

mmm, well duh.....

They are absolutely not necessary to produce awesome music, but it is also absolutely silly to say they haven't massively effected the music of much of the rock era.
 
But this isn't the forum for that discussion which has been played out already.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 18 2009 at 15:05
I think drugs of every kind have always been present in the arts. On the extremely lively, fertile artistic scene of Paris at the turn of the 19th century, the use of alcohol and drugs was rife - check the cover of John Greaves' Verlaine album, and you'll see a silver absinthe spoon. Edgar Allan Poe was an alcoholic, as were many other writers in the 19th and early 20th century. So, the fact that rock music has been impacted by the use of psychoactive substances is really nothing new. However, it must also be said that, as Jay stated above me, using drugs or alcohol is not mandatory for producing great music (or great literature, or great visual art).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 18 2009 at 15:10
I saw a Paul Krassner interview on a documentary about the Sgt. Pepper and he said that while drugs certainly influence for the music, you couldn't exactly play well while under the influence of LSD.
Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 18 2009 at 15:25
Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

I saw a Paul Krassner interview on a documentary about the Sgt. Pepper and he said that while drugs certainly influence for the music, you couldn't exactly play well while under the influence of LSD.
 
No, but one can certainly allow the experiences induced by the drug to inform their writing process.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 18 2009 at 16:25
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 if you don't believe drugs have done good things for us, do me a favor. Go home tonight. Take all your albums, all your tapes and all your CDs and burn them. 'Cause you know what, the musicians that made all that great music that's enhanced your lives throughout the years — rrreal f**king high on drugs. The Beatles were so f**king high they let  ringo sing a few tunes.
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 18 2009 at 16:45
Big but more from reflections on the lifestyle than the actual chemical effects
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 18 2009 at 16:50
^RIP (edit: to martin)


that was an easy poll


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 18 2009 at 16:52
Drugs have a massive impact on music nowadays if I'm honest. The song Pineal Gland Optics - Meshuggah is actually based on experiences with the drug DMT. They always have been a part of musical creation.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 18 2009 at 17:01
Originally posted by The Pessimist The Pessimist wrote:

Drugs have a massive impact on music nowadays if I'm honest. The song Pineal Gland Optics - Meshuggah is actually based on experiences with the drug DMT. They always have been a part of musical creation.


...as are their songs Ayahuasca (named after an Amazonian hallucinogenic brew of which DMT is the active constituent) & Closed-Eye Visuals Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 18 2009 at 20:28
Originally posted by Raff Raff wrote:

I think drugs of every kind have always been present in the arts. On the extremely lively, fertile artistic scene of Paris at the turn of the 19th century, the use of alcohol and drugs was rife - check the cover of John Greaves' Verlaine album, and you'll see a silver absinthe spoon. Edgar Allan Poe was an alcoholic, as were many other writers in the 19th and early 20th century. So, the fact that rock music has been impacted by the use of psychoactive substances is really nothing new. However, it must also be said that, as Jay stated above me, using drugs or alcohol is not mandatory for producing great music (or great literature, or great visual art).

It is very dubious that Poe was an alcoholic; those allegations were instigated by his archenemy Rufus Wilmot Griswold, who did everything to destroy his reputation. It is true though that Poe experimented with Laudanum.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 18 2009 at 20:34
You can bet your ass drugs had a fairly big role to play in music evolution. There is plenty of crazy experiences to be had on hallucinations that you'll never get in the clean, straight world that can inspire song writing.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 18 2009 at 21:11
To all of the above^ and below



Not that we advocate drugs in any shape or form.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 18 2009 at 21:36
Originally posted by mrcozdude mrcozdude wrote:


Not that we advocate drugs in any shape or form.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 18 2009 at 21:45
^ you do what?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 18 2009 at 22:15
advocate drug use in several forms
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 18 2009 at 22:41
Well yeah, you're in Austin, they're probably legal. Legal drugs are totally cool on the PA forum dude

Otherwise, we're not allowed to encourage any illegal 'stuff' including, but not limited to, seal clubbing, crack pipes shaped like hand guns and fake CDs of Hendrix bootleg outakes of other bootlegs.

All that sort of encouragment of illegal activity type 'chatter' can get your ass banned from this site ... straight up!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 18 2009 at 23:23
But you now, I have a cool copy of a bootleg of  "Fun with Hendrix Onstage" the psychedelic sequel to the Elvis favorite.
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