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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 03 2009 at 05:26
Overrated epic - TAAB pt 1

Underrated epic - TAAB pt 2.

just kidding. I don't believe in that stuff.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 03 2009 at 07:08
Overrated:
Supper's Ready by Genesis
Tubular Bells Part One by Mike Oldfield
Octavarium by Dream Theater

Underrated:
Ommadawn part I and II by Mike Oldfield
Symphony by Grobschnitt (the whole first album is underrated in my opinion!)
Solar Music by Grobschnitt
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 03 2009 at 10:44
Overrated:

Octavarium  - Dream Theater
Karn Evil 9 - ELP

Underrated:

Light of Day, Day of Darkness - Green Carnation
All of the Above - Transatlantic
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 03 2009 at 12:03

I would say that most of the songs on Soft Machine's Third are great songs, and long enough to be epics.  But I feel like they're not really epics?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 03 2009 at 15:02
Originally posted by himtroy himtroy wrote:

I would say that most of the songs on Soft Machine's Third are great songs, and long enough to be epics.  But I feel like they're not really epics?

 
I think I know what you mean, they're great songs that just happen to take up a side of vinyl each. I reckon Moon In June should be have its praises shouted from the rooftops! Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 03 2009 at 20:54

One that is overrated is Yes' Awaken (for exemple: The Gates Of Delirium is better by FAR) but it's good though.

And those are the underrated : - PINK FLOYD's Atom Heart Mother
                                                           - VDGG's A Plague Of Lighthouse Keepers
                                                           - RARE BIRD's Flight 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 04 2009 at 21:55
I don't think 6 degrees is rubbish. I think the overture is rubbish, and that said crappy overture is followed by a collection of great songs that don't really form a whole, therefore not qualifying as an epic xD.
"Es ist übrigens unmöglich, eine Meinung zu haben, ohne dass es unerfreuliche Überschneidungen gibt. Die Grünen sind für den deutschen Wald, die NPD ebenfalls."

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 05 2009 at 05:29
Octavarium ISN'T overrated. It's great. Wink And Garden of Dreams is no epic, just a suite.
 
 
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Duel with the Devil and Stranger in Your Soul by Transatlantic (everybody's speaking of All of the Above, but I think these two are both better).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 05 2009 at 06:26
I can't think of very many overrated epics. Karn Evil 9 seems a bit overrated to me. Hemispheres seems a bit overrated, too.

...However, I have a few for underrated. I'd like to start off with the two Rush epics off of "Caress of Steel". The Necromancer and Fountain of Lamneth are so good, yet they're so overlooked. I have to admit, they are a bit unfocused, but they are so good. I especially like the Necromancer. The opening guitar piece is incredible, and Alex's guitar effects for this song are great. I also love the narration for this song. If anything, this has to be Alex's finest our on guitar. Same thing with Lamneth. Lamneth is so epic. It's 20 minutes do not bore me and I think it's well made. Alex's guitar work on here, like The Necromancer, has to among his best...

...Another underrated epic not by a band named Rush? I would have to go with Duke's Travels/Duke's End by Genesis. I love Duke, and I think it's one of their best albums. Duke's Travels, while not being their last epic, was certainly one worth mentioning due to the fact that unlike the other epics later on in their career, this is the last one that shows off their top notch musicianship. Tony's keywork on Duke's Travels is incredible, and Phil Collin's drumwork is also amazing. Mike never did a whole lot on guitar, but for Duke's Travels he was close to Steve Hackett's level in terms of guitar work, especially towards the end when they do the reprise for Guide Vocal. I applaud Genesis for making that epic. If only they could have kept doing that later in their career, but oh well, you can't change the past.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 05 2009 at 14:32
Overrated-The Gates of Delirium,Cygnus X-1 Book 1
Underrated-Atom Heart Mother Suite,In The Wake of Poseidon(the album)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 06 2009 at 06:47
I'm with you on Gates and Cygnus X-1 Gustavo. Neither ever really hit home for me.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 06 2009 at 15:24
Originally posted by A B Negative A B Negative wrote:

Originally posted by himtroy himtroy wrote:

I would say that most of the songs on Soft Machine's Third are great songs, and long enough to be epics.  But I feel like they're not really epics?

 
I think I know what you mean, they're great songs that just happen to take up a side of vinyl each. I reckon Moon In June should be have its praises shouted from the rooftops! Wink
 
Moon In June is one of those songs that bring a smile to my face everytime I hear it, I listen to it very very frequently too.  I love the rest of that album, and I love Fourth, but in a way them going instrumental kind of hurt a little bit.  I love instrumental music often more but I also really love Wyatt's voice.  Perhaps the reason Moon in June is so good.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 06 2009 at 15:51
Originally posted by himtroy himtroy wrote:

Originally posted by A B Negative A B Negative wrote:

Originally posted by himtroy himtroy wrote:

I would say that most of the songs on Soft Machine's Third are great songs, and long enough to be epics.  But I feel like they're not really epics?

 
I think I know what you mean, they're great songs that just happen to take up a side of vinyl each. I reckon Moon In June should be have its praises shouted from the rooftops! Wink
 
Moon In June is one of those songs that bring a smile to my face everytime I hear it, I listen to it very very frequently too.  I love the rest of that album, and I love Fourth, but in a way them going instrumental kind of hurt a little bit.  I love instrumental music often more but I also really love Wyatt's voice.  Perhaps the reason Moon in June is so good.
 
Robert Wyatt could sing the phone book and I'd love it!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 06 2009 at 20:02
Originally posted by Diaby Diaby wrote:

 
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Duel with the Devil and Stranger in Your Soul by Transatlantic (everybody's speaking of All of the Above, but I think these two are both better).
 
I agree on that one , those two epics have enough hooks to keep you entertained no matter how long they are.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 06 2009 at 20:32
My most underrated is Cities by Chain.  By far my all time favorite 37 minute song.Wink

And now that we can edit our reviews and I going to rewrite the one I did for that album which was my first and probably crappiest review ever.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 06 2009 at 21:17
Overrated: "Grendel"
Underrated: "This Strange Engine"

"Grendel" has some sort of aura about it, but "This Strange Engine" is much more intense and much more interesting. Blows the living #$&! out of "Grendel".

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 06 2009 at 22:14
Originally posted by King By-Tor King By-Tor wrote:

Underrated... Bel-Air by Can
Overrated... Anything by GY!BE
 


And here I was thinking GY!BE is underrated, I expected more people to like them, with there orchestrated, atmospheric music. I also think The Final Cut is underrated, so is anything by Mike Oldfield that isn't Tubular Bells. I also think Eloy gets a bit underrated.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 25 2009 at 02:02
Overrated: Karn Evil 9, Echoes, The Camera Eye (sort of, it's not as much of an epic), and most any Yes epic from 1974-1977.

Underrated: Can't really think of that many that would fall into this category, but Fool's Overture comes close.

Just simply good: Supper's Ready, Tarkus, Close To The Edge.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 27 2009 at 12:00
Overrated:  Yes's "Awaken"
                    Rick Wakeman's "Journey to the Centre of the Earth"

Underrated:  VdGG's "A Plague of Lighthouse Keepers"
                        Yes's "Endless Dream"

Plenty more for both lists, but all I can think of at the moment
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 27 2009 at 14:46
Overrated - 2112 by Rush
Underrated - Storm by GYBE!

Edited by pianoman - May 27 2009 at 17:29
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