NEW RATING ALGO. AND EDIT RATINGS/REVIEWS OPEN TO

no one seems to realize that that's the same as before...

King By-Tor wrote: no one seems to realize that that's the same as before...

Dean wrote: TGM: Orb wrote: 2) good levelling SCs etc. and regular reviewers - its always seemed odd to me that those promoted for the reason of their reviews would be weighted lower than people who were selected maybe more for their interest in helping the site and specialist knowledge. That was never the case - Prog Reviewers, Collaborators, SC and Admins have always been weighted equally.

Ah, right.

I might have been mistaken then... I seem to remember hearing of SCs being rated as 10 and regular PRs as 5... probably just me being crazy

DamoXt7942 wrote: Ah...indeed here most of reviewers under senior are great, but a few are malignant. Reviewers with 4 or 5 stars are all great so I think, as a general rule, it's not strange a Collaborator's review rating be heavier than a non-Collaborator's one. Well, we senior members should try hard to be good Collaborators.

And there you are.

Don't listen to Lucent; this is a great improvement.

Just to be clear , the changes mean that non-collaborators reviews have a greater impact on the ratings than they had before. Also, all ratings without reviews now have a weighting of 1. Up until now, ratings without review by a collaborator still had a weighting of 10.

OK all,

I'm all for this change. Look forward to seeing how things re-shuffle.

one pt for ratings. Great idea, and it will give these scores their proper weight. If the best you can do is take 5 seconds to tick off your view, then , here's the thanks for your time.
The 10 to 5 weight seems fair also. I believe that most members reviews are as worthy/valuable as PA's collabs, admin, and reviewers,  when it comes to giving albums a fair hearing (i.e. no fanboyism or spite). But there are enough people out there who often seem more intent on settling scores rather than giving their honest opinion on a release.
Examples (non-prog to avoid arguements)
AC/DC's Black Ice was as good as most of what  they'd put  out. When it first came out , I played it 3-4 times a week for about a month. But I don't play it anymore, and can't hum more than a few songs from it. Crowded House's Alone Together was a great disappointment initially , until it clicked about a month or two after I bought it. This despite the fact that I'd listened to it about 6 times in that period.

I love all the Klaatu albums. Yet I didn't rate them all at 5. One is good, two are pretty good, and two are great. There is a reason for the  1 - 5 scale, and these releases are rated on where I think they fit. But there are some that rate their idols' albums at an amazing across the board 5. Check to see if a reviewer, collab or admin has ever given that sort of evaluation for a band's total output ...

Those insights are what PA is hoping its' community is able to keep in mind when reviewing an album. Not to refrain on reviewing new albums as they come out. Not to refrain from sharing  your adoration or abhorrence of a group's music. Just the ability to keep those thing in mind when you're writing a review. (i.e. it's O.K. to love ELP until they release Love Beach. Just the same as you can love Love Beach and hate the rest)

And, for those who PA eventually "promotes" to the higher echelon ... your weighting on existing reviews go up also. In effect, your opinion and knowledge have come to be seen as worthy of more responsablility (yes , there is that trade-off. You will be expected to share in the site's workload & meet certain standards - no " I like the album, therefore I give it a 3" reviews. Some meat on the bones is expected , if you will).
In the end, it all works out. Two PA designated prog reviewers dismissing an album as worthy of a 1 do not outweigh twenty community members who rate it a 3. And there are more people in the community than in the "upper ranks".

And finally, as one of this sometimes called "inner circle", you'd be surprised at how few reviews or reviewers get flagged for downright ... er .... questionable reviews. And how many community members get noticed for their well thought out opinions, enthususiastic or dismissive. Indeed, there are a good number that are recognized for their ablilties and views, again without judgement on whether they agree with us or not. When it comes to choosing someone for a collab or reviewer position, the problem is not lack of proposed candidates, but rather the reality that many can't give the time and work that is required to do the job properly.

TO end this all too brief post - take heart. Your opinion(s) are always appreciated & requested on most of the changes here at PA. And just as you may notice some people's writings , yours may be too.

When do the ratings get re-calculated?