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crimson87 
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 Topic: Overrated and underrated epics
Posted: April 30 2009 at 18:48 |
Do you think there are epics that get much more praise than they deserve or the opposite , any underlooked ones in your book?
To me one underlooked epic is " The Ikon" another one could be "Pirates"
Overrated ones could be "The Garden of Dreams" and "Octavarium"
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MFP
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Posted: April 30 2009 at 19:24 |
underlooked:
El Cortejp de un Dia Amarillo - Bubu
Sun Symphonica - Jan Dukes The Grey
Kohntarkosz - Magma
De Futura - Magma
For Richard - Caravan
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Finnforest
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Posted: April 30 2009 at 19:27 |
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Overrated: Echoes
Underrated: Atom Heart
Over: Close to the Edge
Under: Tales (pick one)
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Synchestra
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Posted: April 30 2009 at 19:30 |
 Finnforest wrote:
Overrated: Echoes
Underrated: Atom Heart
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^this. though i still love both 
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OzzProg
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Posted: April 30 2009 at 19:41 |
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The Ikon by Todd Rundgren's Utopia is one of my favourite epics from the 70's, highly underrated.
Other underrated epics in my opinion:
-Lizard by King Crimson
-Song of Scheherazade by Renaissance
-Most of the Epics off of Odyssey "The Greatest Tale"
-Solar Musick Suite by Steve Hillage
-Anonymus Two (the combined track) by Focus (it seems no one likes this but me!? Its so bluesy and chill to listen to!)
-Baker Street Muse by Jethro Tull
-The Geese And The Ghost by Anthony Phillips
Overrated Epics:
-The Truth Will Set You Free by The Flower Kings
-Karn Evil 9 by Emerson, Lake & Palmer
-Nine Feet Underground by Caravan (Its good, but not GREAT!)
-Hamburger Concerto by Focus (Also good, but no better than the other Epics by Focus!)
-Awaken by Yes
-Tubular Bells by Mike Oldfield (His other works are much greater than this, its just known due to its soundtrack status in my opinion)
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Dorsalia
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Posted: April 30 2009 at 22:01 |
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Arena's Moviedrome is a much underrated 19 minute song.
I think it's almost perfect.
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"Es ist übrigens unmöglich, eine Meinung zu haben, ohne dass es unerfreuliche Überschneidungen gibt. Die Grünen sind für den deutschen Wald, die NPD ebenfalls."
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crimhead
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Posted: April 30 2009 at 22:06 |
Synchestra wrote:
Finnforest wrote:
Overrated: Echoes
Underrated: Atom Heart
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^this. though i still love both |
Agreed(with loving both). In the scheme of PF I think Echoes as well as AHM get overlooked far too much.
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Dorsalia
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Posted: April 30 2009 at 22:19 |
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Oh and Blind Guardian's And Then There Was Silence. It takes a while to get into, but once you do you realize how incredibly strong the material is.
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"Es ist übrigens unmöglich, eine Meinung zu haben, ohne dass es unerfreuliche Überschneidungen gibt. Die Grünen sind für den deutschen Wald, die NPD ebenfalls."
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M@X
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Posted: April 30 2009 at 23:16 |
Dorsalia wrote:
Arena's Moviedrome is a much underrated 19 minute song. I think it's almost perfect.
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Prog On !
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Queen By-Tor
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Posted: May 01 2009 at 01:28 |
Underrated... Bel-Air by Can
Overrated... Anything by GY!BE
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Green Shield Stamp
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Posted: May 02 2009 at 10:26 |
Overrated - the album Images and Words by Dream Theater
Criminally underrated - the album The Final Cut by Pink Floyd
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Haiku
Writing a poem
With seventeen syllables
Is very diffic....
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zachfive
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Posted: May 02 2009 at 11:03 |
OzzProg wrote:
-Tubular Bells by Mike Oldfield (His other works are much greater than this, its just known due to its soundtrack status in my opinion)
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Agreed sir. Fountain of Lamneth FTW...
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AlanOB
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Posted: May 02 2009 at 11:03 |
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I would agree with Tubular Bells and Octavarium being overrated.
A couple I find bizarrely underrated are The Narrow Margin by IQ and Ocean Cloud by Marillion.
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Posted: May 02 2009 at 11:21 |
AlanOB wrote:
A couple I find bizarrely underrated are The Narrow Margin by IQ and Ocean Cloud by Marillion.
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Prog On !
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Drew
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Posted: May 02 2009 at 11:24 |
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Yes- I LOVE the Narrow Margin! ^^^^^^^^
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nahnite
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Posted: May 02 2009 at 11:40 |
Overrated: Six Degrees Of Inner Turbulence
Underrated: 2112
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AlanOB
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Posted: May 02 2009 at 11:49 |
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I'm glad we're agreed on "The Narrow Margin"! I've even heard some people say that it's the weakest moment on Subterranea! Nonsense.
To the above poster - How is 2112 underrated?! It's one of the best loved epics in prog and so it should be! Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence is indeed rubbish though, but I'm pretty sure everyone thinks that.
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harmonium.ro
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Posted: May 02 2009 at 11:52 |
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My favourite underrated epics: "A Tab In The Ocean" and "Baker Street Muse".
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Roland113
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Posted: May 02 2009 at 23:17 |
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Underrated:
"Islands" by Singularity - Here's a fantastic song by a relatively unknown band. The album it comes from "Of All the Mysteries" has a 4.2 rating though only eleven ratings. If you're looking for something really good from the last couple of years, I highly recommend.
"I am the Sun" by The Flower Kings - Wonderful song, it amazes me that this band doesn't have a single four star album. As "I Am the Sun" is my favorite epic by them, I'm giving it my vote. In general I think The Flower Kings as a band are underrated.
"Snow" by Spock's Beard - I believe that a concept album would be considered an epic (in my mind at least). Great double CD the whole way through.
I'm not going to comment on the what I think is overrated as it will just irritate the fans.
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Zargus
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Posted: May 03 2009 at 05:08 |
Overrated: Suppers ready (its good but not great)
Underratad: Nine feet underground & A plague of lighthouse keepers (the 2 best epics ever made)
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