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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Wilcey Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 19 2009 at 06:20
Was there any decision made about this one?

 http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=211068

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Tony R Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 19 2009 at 06:58
Originally posted by Wilcey Wilcey wrote:

Was there any decision made about this one?

 http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=211068

Ermm


Note the similarity :

http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=211068

by the same author. Some failed Prog vocalist with an axe to grind, maybe?

Is it abuse? I'm not sure.





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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Wilcey Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 19 2009 at 07:09
I'm not sure it's abuse either, but it sure as dickens aint an album review! Wink
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Tony R Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 19 2009 at 07:22
Originally posted by Wilcey Wilcey wrote:

I'm not sure it's abuse either, but it sure as dickens aint an album review! Wink


True. It makes general statements about Pendragon's career. This is the only bit that mentions the album:

Quote here we see some really good musicianship and melody construction being mutilated by awful singing.


I guess if the guy had mused that the album would have been improved by having a specialist(?) vocalist and then reviewed the album... Wonder if Geddy Lee's wife reads reviews....Ermm


You've made a good point though Wilcey. This is not a review. Neither is the IQ one.

I'll recommend to Bob and Guigo that we excise them both.


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Easy Livin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 19 2009 at 09:09
Noted both for removal. I'll contact the reviewer and invite him to actually review the albums. If he does not liek them, fair enough, he's quite entitled to that opinion. The reviews as they stand though are just insults without constructive criticism.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Wilcey Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 19 2009 at 10:29
Originally posted by Tony R Tony R wrote:

  Wonder if Geddy Lee's wife reads reviews....Ermm


That's a bit below the belt! There are plenty of "reviews"  I don't like or agree with, this is nothing of the sort, it's simply not a review. Wink


Originally posted by Tony R Tony R wrote:


You've made a good point though Wilcey. This is not a review. Neither is the IQ one.

I'll recommend to Bob and Guigo that we excise them both.




Thanks, I did think long and hard about this in case there were any wife side swipes, but I felt my coment was justified, and as I said in my first post, if the guy wants to attack Nick's vocals the album reviews area is not the time or place, but he's perfectly free to make his comments known.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote LiquidEternity Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 22 2009 at 20:36
There still are a bunch of illegitimate reviews for Devin Townsend's Ki. It's not out yet; therefore, there should be no reviews yet. Right?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Queen By-Tor Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 22 2009 at 22:29
Saga's new album also has a bunch of reviews even though it's not released until May. I have the promo, but the other people may have gotten theirs through a leak. A lot of them are legit... we need a stone cold policy on this...
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Originally posted by King By-Tor King By-Tor wrote:

Saga's new album also has a bunch of reviews even though it's not released until May. I have the promo, but the other people may have gotten theirs through a leak. A lot of them are legit... we need a stone cold policy on this...

Even all major newspapers are now very twitchy on this and does not print reviews until the day before or the day of the release. The reason is the Pirate Bay courtcase and it's conclusion. I have friends sitting on reviews for weeks and getting severe slapped on their wrists by the editors (disciplinary hearings and threats of dismissals) for submitting reviews well before the official release dates. 

I am afraid we need to adopt the same policy. No reviews before the release date. Period. 

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Negoba Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 23 2009 at 12:33
Not sure if this one was up before - an apparent double review of the same album.
 
 
I assume unintentional


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote debrewguy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 23 2009 at 14:17
Originally posted by toroddfuglesteg toroddfuglesteg wrote:

Originally posted by King By-Tor King By-Tor wrote:

Saga's new album also has a bunch of reviews even though it's not released until May. I have the promo, but the other people may have gotten theirs through a leak. A lot of them are legit... we need a stone cold policy on this...

Even all major newspapers are now very twitchy on this and does not print reviews until the day before or the day of the release. The reason is the Pirate Bay courtcase and it's conclusion. I have friends sitting on reviews for weeks and getting severe slapped on their wrists by the editors (disciplinary hearings and threats of dismissals) for submitting reviews well before the official release dates. 

I am afraid we need to adopt the same policy. No reviews before the release date. Period. 


Unless the site is advised by the band of its' legit-ness ... i.e. advance copy that some of us received.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote LiquidEternity Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 23 2009 at 14:59
Not much is really being done about it, though, on some albums...
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Diaby Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 24 2009 at 14:17
http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=23877
http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=23859
Some people have said here that "oh Tick Tock is just rated by fanboys, multi-accounts, blabla". Now, two person who only registered for bashing it. The first reminds me very much of the previous one whose ratings were deleted.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Epignosis Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 01 2009 at 10:00
I was reading some Wobbler reviews, and I don't know if this has been spotted, but this reviewer says nothing about the music, only whines about the length of the album, and in the end, insults the other reviewers ("I cant beleive the other reviews and doubt they even had the music. ") If anything, this should be a rating only- the review is nothing but a rant.

http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=207801
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote kenethlevine Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 02 2009 at 23:58
This review, like too many I am reading lately, insults previous reviewers of the disk.  I believe reviews like this diminish our site by making it appear like the primary purpose for writing is to bash those who disagree.
 
 
examples of violation of guideline 4:
 
Oh man! Some of you guys just...piss me off. You're so "wrong". David G is my favorite guitarist in the world.
 
Dudes, give it a few listens, get over your need for Gilmore's guitar
 

I'm right. If you don't like the album...sorry, you're wrong!

 
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^ I agree. I don't think a review like that belongs on this site. I know its provocation is tongue-in-cheek, but it offers little musical commentary in compensation for the pretend vitriol.
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Originally posted by kenethlevine kenethlevine wrote:

This review, like too many I am reading lately, insults previous reviewers of the disk.  I believe reviews like this diminish our site by making it appear like the primary purpose for writing is to bash those who disagree.
 
 
examples of violation of guideline 4:
 
Oh man! Some of you guys just...piss me off. You're so "wrong". David G is my favorite guitarist in the world.
 
Dudes, give it a few listens, get over your need for Gilmore's guitar
 

I'm right. If you don't like the album...sorry, you're wrong!

 


I sent a friendly PM to that individual and told him he needs to contact an admin to allow him to resubmit his review (or edit it), because we don't tolerate that sort of talk in reviews.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote TGM: Orb Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 03 2009 at 09:42
Originally posted by kenethlevine kenethlevine wrote:

This review, like too many I am reading lately, insults previous reviewers of the disk.  I believe reviews like this diminish our site by making it appear like the primary purpose for writing is to bash those who disagree.
 
 
examples of violation of guideline 4:
 
Oh man! Some of you guys just...piss me off. You're so "wrong". David G is my favorite guitarist in the world.
 
Dudes, give it a few listens, get over your need for Gilmore's guitar
 

I'm right. If you don't like the album...sorry, you're wrong!

 


Really, does it matter that much?

He's answering some criticisms of the album, sure he could do it in a more polite way, but I think people here tend to take more-or-less light-hearted general criticism a bit too seriously. I think, as long as it's a general criticism rather than remarking on a specific review by name, we probably shouldn't get too worked up.
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