Jimi Hendrix added to proto-prog

Vibrationbaby wrote: Does this mean no prog polka bands? I dunno. I actually scanned down the thread before joining the fray. I just think that it`s sort of clutching at straws to have Hendrix on a site like this. I`ll just say one last thing about Coryell. If you watch his DVD A Retrospective one of his sons ( I forget which ) reflects on how dumbfounded he is that his dad is not in Rolling Stone`s top 100 guitarists.  I doubt that if Hendrix would have lived past 27 that he would have joined in on the short period during the early seventies when the prog ( or art rock )  movement ruled.

I really don't see a lot of similarities between Hendrix and Clapton. Pete Cosey, Jeff Beck, Carlos Santana or Blackbyrd McKnight are better examples of similar to Hendrix.

Edited by Easy Money - April 15 2009 at 11:52

Hendrix's last group was a proggy jazz fusion band with Larry Young (Miles, Mclaughlin, Santana), Mitch and Billy Cox.

He was also working with PA member Bo Hanson on another fusion project.

Garion81 wrote: StyLaZyn wrote: Garion81 wrote: StyLaZyn wrote: Vibrationbaby wrote: Does this mean no prog polka bands? I dunno. I actually scanned down the thread before joining the fray. I just think that it`s sort of clutching at straws to have Hendrix on a site like this. I`ll just say one last thing about Coryell. If you watch his DVD A Retrospective one of his sons ( I forget which ) reflects on how dumbfounded he is that his dad is not in Rolling Stone`s top 100 guitarists.  I doubt that if Hendrix would have lived past 27 that he would have joined in on the short period during the early seventies when the prog ( or art rock )  movement ruled. That's a good point. Clapton certainly didn't after finding the Blues.   and yet Jeff Beck did. No one can say what would have happened to Jimi.     I would say Beck found more Fusion than Prog.    Is not fusion prog? It is listed here as a subgenre. It is why Jeff beck is here at all.

Logan wrote: Jazz is an important ingredient  (and influence) of much prog, and while Prog is short for Progressive Rock, I think it very fair to include Progressive Jazz-Rock.  Fusion is essential to Prog, be it jazz-rock fusion, classical-rock fusion, a folk-rock fusion etc.

very true... and it is important to note that not all Jazz Rock is going to sound like Mahavishnu clones...  look at Steely Dan? One of our 'experts' on Jazz rock called the Dan..one the most misunderstood groups around.  Case in point.  John touched on something earier... you have to really listen sometimes.. not be so quick to judge.  The site can be educational... but that only workds if one wants to learn.  Oh well hahha.  Thankfully some do.. while others will take their opinions to the grave no matter what.  There's nothing to be done for them.. hopefully .. with additions like this...  even though Hendrix is known by all.. maybe some might look at him in a different light.. not just as a guitar hero.. but a musician.

There are lots of artists who sit between prog rock and fusion: Mahavishnu, RTF, Bill Bruford, Quiet Sun, Ozric Tentacles, David Sancious, Jean Luc Ponty, Alan Holdsworth Terje Rypdal, Focus, early Soft Machine and many more.

Good thing this site calls Quiet Sun Canterbury because their perfect blend of fusion and prog rock would be hard to classify

I love Steely Dan and I would even go so far to add early Chicago to that mix as well. I have never separated JR/F from prog.  It is a blend of rock with another genre and in my mind has always been an essential ingredient in prog.

Garion81 wrote: I love Steely Dan and I would even go so far to add early Chicago to that mix as well. I have never separated JR/F from prog.  It is a blend of rock with another genre and in my mind has always been an essential ingredient in prog.

^ Not me, if you read my intro you will know that The Experience is clearly part of the early London proto-prog scene (musically and socially) and needed to be added so that PA had a musicologically correct proto-prog section.

I'm not interested in adding too many more people to PA except essential progressive JR/F artists.

Edited by Easy Money - April 15 2009 at 13:07

StyLaZyn wrote: Garion81 wrote: I love Steely Dan and I would even go so far to add early Chicago to that mix as well. I have never separated JR/F from prog.  It is a blend of rock with another genre and in my mind has always been an essential ingredient in prog. I love Steely Dan as well. They have Jazz tendancies but are they jazz? Not really. Early Chicago is some excellent stuff, but like Steely Dan, not really Jazz. Prog has been a genre for rock musicians wanting to push their creativity outside the mainstream template. Jazz was already there, in that, it was not mainstream. But could you put Prog under Jazz? Could you put Jazz under Prog? Neither work without taking liberal interpretations.

Edited by Garion81 - April 15 2009 at 13:14