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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 05 2009 at 10:00
hhehehe... Bob....  we weren't supposed to announce that yet in open forum until that approval was 'confirmed'.... that is why I just said they were being 'evaluated' LOLHeart

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 05 2009 at 10:07
That chart is very odd.  Ermm
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 05 2009 at 10:08
^ Really? I don't even know the band, the chart is based on the tag assignments at PF. You're welcome to add your own point of view.Smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 05 2009 at 15:45
Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

hhehehe... Bob....  we weren't supposed to announce that yet in open forum until that approval was 'confirmed'.... that is why I just said they were being 'evaluated' LOLHeart
 
As you know, I tend to steer clear of the genre team's work, you don't need me poking my nose in. Embarrassed
 
I was just concerned that you might be spending time on a band who's fate had already been decided elsewhere.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 05 2009 at 18:15
Originally posted by NaturalScience NaturalScience wrote:

That chart is very odd.  Ermm
 
and definitely not accurate eitherConfusedTongue
let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter
keep our sand-castle virtues
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as well as a thinker,
prefer lifting our pen
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 06 2009 at 02:17
^ The more users participate, the more accurate the chart will be. Smile Unfortunately I don't know the band, but if you do ... in all honesty, I think that submitting some information would be more helpful than complaining about that chart.Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 06 2009 at 03:52
Originally posted by Easy Livin Easy Livin wrote:

Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

hhehehe... Bob....  we weren't supposed to announce that yet in open forum until that approval was 'confirmed'.... that is why I just said they were being 'evaluated' LOLHeart
 
As you know, I tend to steer clear of the genre team's work, you don't need me poking my nose in. Embarrassed
 
I was just concerned that you might be spending time on a band who's fate had already been decided elsewhere.
 
Uhhh... Are Chicago a X Prog band (x is the sub genre)? ConfusedEmbarrassed
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 06 2009 at 05:30
Great news! They certainly deserve to be here and I'm a great fan of all albums they made with Terry Kath. I was pretty disappointed with the two albums following his death and haven't listened to them since, but their early period (which lasted many many years) definitely qualifies them in my view.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 06 2009 at 08:32
I've been thinking for a while about suggesting them for PA. But looks like somebody did the job for me. Great news!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 06 2009 at 08:53
I know only few songs of the band but based on that knowledge they aren't prog at all. If they have a more progy side that I'm not aware of then fine.
However, I have a feeling that wer'e widening the borders a bit too much.
Who's next ? Tom Petty and the heartbreakers ?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 06 2009 at 08:58
Originally posted by omri omri wrote:

I know only few songs of the band but based on that knowledge they aren't prog at all.


Well, it all depends on what those few songs are - picture someone incredulous that Genesis are here, because they heard a few songs from "I Can't Dance" and are bewildered at the prog credentials of said band.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 06 2009 at 09:05

The peak at the end is because of Stone of Sisyphus which is their most progressive release since the beginning period.  Although it was recorded 20 years ago, it wasn't released until 2008.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 06 2009 at 09:08
Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

The peak at the end is because of Stone of Sisyphus which is their most progressive release since the beginning period.  Although it was recorded 20 years ago, it wasn't released until 2008.



Methinks the curve needs to have data points marked with an X or a dot or something.  Wink

Also, it indicates the mid 80s stuff as being as progressive as some of the early albums.  Confused
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 06 2009 at 09:19
There aren't too many Chicago albums on Progfreak yet so that is probably a major reason for the skewing.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 06 2009 at 10:15
Originally posted by omri omri wrote:

I know only few songs of the band but based on that knowledge they aren't prog at all. If they have a more progy side that I'm not aware of then fine.
However, I have a feeling that wer'e widening the borders a bit too much.
Who's next ? Tom Petty and the heartbreakers ?


If a number of people with a vast knowledge of prog have suggested their inclusion, it means there is some merit to said suggestion. I know the band even less than you do, but don't doubt the expertise of those who know more than I do. As much as I can understand some members' frustration with some of the policies, I don't think it is a good reason for doubting people's integrity, or suggesting we want to include Tom Petty, ABBA, or whatever. Please, remember that there are people working on behalf of this site for FREE, who deserve to see their work respected.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 06 2009 at 10:20
Apparently Chicago was approved for JR/F long ago, we just need someone to do the work.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 06 2009 at 10:26
Originally posted by NaturalScience NaturalScience wrote:

Originally posted by omri omri wrote:

I know only few songs of the band but based on that knowledge they aren't prog at all.


Well, it all depends on what those few songs are - picture someone incredulous that Genesis are here, because they heard a few songs from "I Can't Dance" and are bewildered at the prog credentials of said band.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 06 2009 at 12:05
Originally posted by Easy Money Easy Money wrote:

Apparently Chicago was approved for JR/F long ago, we just need someone to do the work.


if no one volunteers ...I'll do it...


any volunteers?....  if you want to ...just PM me...  if you are a non-collab I'll help ya with with needs to be done and make sure any bio is PA's worthy so to speak. 


John...I'll wait a few days... if no one volunteers I'll do it.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 06 2009 at 12:56
oh yeah... since I see threads all the time asking how to become one...

a secret I'll let everyone in on that might not be explicit in the FAQ.. if you want to be a collaborator.. these are the kinds of things that get you noticed. Being a collaborator means working for the site.. and doing things just like this.  We are always on the lookout for collab worthy people... part of what we are looking for are those that can..and will do the dirty work that comes with maintaining..and expanding the database.
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