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gdub411
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Posted: October 01 2004 at 15:13 |
Actually I have never heard I.Q
I was irritated by Greenback's comment. There are quite a few prog bands I am not fond of either but Mr Ridout enlightened me in one of these forums that it is not cool to throw alot of negativity around . I knew from a previous thread Greenback liked IQ so I lashed out...I am emotional that way....sorry.
Since Mr Ridout's comment I have tried to refrain(until now that is...once again sorry to all I.Q fans) from making hurtful comments on bands I don't like. I'll save it for reviews only...
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Certif1ed
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Posted: October 01 2004 at 15:21 |
I don't think that Eloy are in the same league as the other bands - great space rock band, but nowhere near as self-styled or progressive as the other choices.
And so I pick Camel.
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Certif1ed
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Posted: October 01 2004 at 15:39 |
Not trying to swing the votes or anything, but I couldn't resist sharing this one...
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will
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Posted: October 01 2004 at 15:48 |
Personally my favourie two form that list are camel and Eloy, i went for eloy because it had less votes
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Long live progression.
Will
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Posted: October 01 2004 at 16:31 |
to you eloy fans - be sure to check out Novalis. Banished Bridge is very good.
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Bryan
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Posted: October 01 2004 at 21:46 |
gdub411 wrote:
Actually I have never heard I.Q
I was irritated by Greenback's comment. There are quite a few prog bands I am not fond of either but Mr Ridout enlightened me in one of these forums that it is not cool to throw alot of negativity around . I knew from a previous thread Greenback liked IQ so I lashed out...I am emotional that way....sorry.
Since Mr Ridout's comment I have tried to refrain(until now that is...once again sorry to all I.Q fans) from making hurtful comments on bands I don't like. I'll save it for reviews only...
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I know greenback from another forum, and that's just how he is. There are many bands I could easily go on a long, passionate rant about the greatness of, the post after which he would just say "I hate (band name)!" Not that there's anything wrong with getting right to the point, I'm just saying.
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greenback
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Posted: October 02 2004 at 00:36 |
gdub411 wrote:
Actually I have never heard I.Q
I was irritated by Greenback's comment. There are quite a few prog bands I am not fond of either but Mr Ridout enlightened me in one of these forums that it is not cool to throw alot of negativity around . I knew from a previous thread Greenback liked IQ so I lashed out...I am emotional that way....sorry.
Since Mr Ridout's comment I have tried to refrain(until now that is...once again sorry to all I.Q fans) from making hurtful comments on bands I don't like. I'll save it for reviews only...
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You don't have to be hurt because I bash a band I don't like! You will discover that there are, even in the prog world, bands who you find irritating, dull or whatever. To express your dislikes will give you a unique identity! For instance, a progger here in the name of richardh likes, like I do, Tangerine dream of the 80's, IQ, Rush of the 80's, Vangelis of the 80's, and so on... But he hates Triumvirat! WOOSH! I mean, that's a shock, but it is OK! He has the right to hate them, it makes him different to me because of that! It is our identity!
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Man Erg
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Posted: October 02 2004 at 03:51 |
Camel
Even though I have seen VdGG/Hammill nearly 50 times I can play Camel anytime of the day.With VdGG I sort of have to prepare myself?!?
I first saw Camel on the Moonmadness tour and they were
fantastic.When Moonmadness was released it didn't leave
my turntable for over a month.Only Genesis had,had that previous 'honour'.
1.Camel
2.VdGG
3.Genesis
4.King Crimson
5.Can.
6.Faust
7.Yes
8.Caravan
9.Neu
10.Gentle Giant
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Certif1ed
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Posted: October 02 2004 at 08:56 |
greenback wrote:
gdub411 wrote:
Actually I have never heard I.Q
I was irritated by Greenback's comment. There are quite a few prog bands I am not fond of either but Mr Ridout enlightened me in one of these forums that it is not cool to throw alot of negativity around . I knew from a previous thread Greenback liked IQ so I lashed out...I am emotional that way....sorry.
Since Mr Ridout's comment I have tried to refrain(until now that is...once again sorry to all I.Q fans) from making hurtful comments on bands I don't like. I'll save it for reviews only...
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You don't have to be hurt because I bash a band I don't like! You will discover that there are, even in the prog world, bands who you find irritating, dull or whatever. To express your dislikes will give you a unique identity! For instance, a progger here in the name of richardh likes, like I do, Tangerine dream of the 80's, IQ, Rush of the 80's, Vangelis of the 80's, and so on... But he hates Triumvirat! WOOSH! I mean, that's a shock, but it is OK! He has the right to hate them, it makes him different to me because of that! It is our identity!
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There is an important point in here, and it's that if someone is singing the praises of their favourite band , and discussing the details that they love about the music, one of the most irritating things anyone can do is pop up and say "Hi, I think your favourite band is crap" .
It's not wrong to hold a different opinion - far from it! But if you're going to say that you don't like something, then please do the other person the decency of saying WHY - after all, they've taken the time to say WHY they DO like the band, music, etc, so to just say "Oh, that's crap", or "That's boring" is plain RUDE in my opinion, and deserves all the flames it gets. I am particularly fond of flaming such rudeness (and getting slapped on the wrist for it... ).
HOWEVER, it would be better to spare the flames - we are all united here by our love of prog . So if there's a discussion on a band you don't like and you MUST post something negative about them, do your fellow proggers the decency of explaining yourself and make valid points, or SHUT THE FK UP!!!
Sorry...
Got carried away there - but I wanted to get this one off my chest, as it seems there is a lot of it about at the moment. Nothing personal, gdub and greenback this isn't aimed at you - this is just the proverbial straw on the camel's back
With apologies to Peter for assimilating his style to make an announcement that he would make far more gently and succinctly...
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gdub411
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Posted: October 02 2004 at 09:06 |
I've already apologized...but thanks for reminding me again
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greenback
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Posted: October 02 2004 at 15:33 |
Certif1ed wrote:
[QUOTE=greenback][QUOTE=gdub411]
There is an important point in here, and it's that if someone is singing the praises of their favourite band , and discussing the details that they love about the music, one of the most irritating things anyone can do is pop up and say "Hi, I think your favourite band is crap" .
It's not wrong to hold a different opinion - far from it! But if you're going to say that you don't like something, then please do the other person the decency of saying WHY - after all, they've taken the time to say WHY they DO like the band, music, etc, so to just say "Oh, that's crap", or "That's boring" is plain RUDE in my opinion, and deserves all the flames it gets. I am particularly fond of flaming such rudeness (and getting slapped on the wrist for it... ).
HOWEVER, it would be better to spare the flames - we are all united here by our love of prog . So if there's a discussion on a band you don't like and you MUST post something negative about them, do your fellow proggers the decency of explaining yourself and make valid points, or SHUT THE FK UP!!!
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The problem is that I cannot all the time bring my arguments here:
Here is for VDGG:
http://rateyourmusic.com/user_albums?show=0&order_by=lat est&album_list_id=36207&list_type=all&show_revie ws=1&show_ratings=1&searchterm=quiet+zone&search type=album
OKAY GUYS, NEXT TIME I'LL PUT A NEGATIVE COMMENT HERE, PLEASE GO TO rateyourmusic.com TO SEE MY ARGUMENTATION!
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Reed Lover
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Posted: October 02 2004 at 16:36 |
Certif1ed wrote:
[QUOTE=greenback][QUOTE=gdub411]
With apologies to Peter for assimilating his style to make an announcement that he would make far more gently and succinctly...
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I think You'll find that assimilate is THE WRONG VERB to use here.
Might I suggest that Mimic would be more apposite
Sorry Peter!
Edited by Reed Lover
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Lynn
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Posted: October 03 2004 at 15:33 |
We saw Focus last night at Rotherham, England, they were amazing!!!
Lynn
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John Young is making a difference!! www.youngjohn.co.uk
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Eddy
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Posted: October 03 2004 at 23:47 |
Certif1ed wrote:
Not trying to swing the votes or anything, but I couldn't resist sharing this one...
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i just want to say that was the funniest picture i saw my whole liefe, and that i still cant stop laughing at it. holy crap. that is the silliest thing ive ever seen. ever
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gdub411
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Posted: October 04 2004 at 02:05 |
I agree with you Eddy....I made it my wallpaper for my computer...it fits my sense of humor
It makes me want to purphase a camel cd or 2
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gdub411
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Posted: October 04 2004 at 02:07 |
geez...I am starting to spell like you Eddy...um ...I meant purchase
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Easy Livin
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Posted: October 04 2004 at 15:01 |
Lynn wrote:
We saw Focus last night at Rotherham, England, they were amazing!!!
Lynn
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I'm sure they were enjoyable, but is it really Focus? I understand from someone else who saw them, Akkerman is not touring with them, and Van Leer no longer plays flute. Is it true??
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Carl floyd fan
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Posted: October 04 2004 at 15:26 |
well akkerman and van leer (flute in hand) preaty much make up the band so it doesn't sound to interesting. Granted I LOVE focus, but come on, van leer is just as good at the flute as Ian anderson and its a prominent part of there music. Can you imagine Ian w/o the flute....I'd pass on that concert!
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arqwave
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Posted: October 04 2004 at 19:45 |
VDGG... the only band that almost got the "god" award, and was part of the very early prog scene.
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between darkness and light
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The Hemulen
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Posted: October 05 2004 at 10:06 |
That was a tough decision... GG, Focus, Caravan and VDGG, are all in my top 10 or so, I think. I only have one album by Eloy (Ocean), and on the strength of that they don't quite measure up to the likes of those four.
As for Camel... *falls asleep*. Oh, sorry, what were talking about?
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