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burritounit 
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 Posted: February 19 2009 at 15:18 |
 Moatilliatta wrote:
Has anyone here been following Underoath? After flirting with scene music a bit, they really matured. Their past two albums, Define the Great Line & Lost in the Sound of Separation, are both unique, atmospheric, and fairly progressive. Lots of post-metal characteristics mixed in with more uptempo metal/hardcore stylings and a melodic knack not found in other bands like them. They may even deserve a place in here. |
Been meaning to check them out, but never have. I guess by reading I will. 
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Prog-jester
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Posted: February 19 2009 at 15:51 |
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Dim
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Posted: February 19 2009 at 16:45 |
All of you are wrong...
Pantheist guys, Pantheist.
Yeah the album leaf is definately more like backround music, but it really felt good just to close my eyes, amd drift off during the more boring half of history today.
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angelmk
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Posted: February 19 2009 at 18:37 |
thanx prog jester, yeah pantheist , this whole ep being commented these days, we all agree is not from this planet, from somewhere out of space planet called Agalloch , where as embers dress the sky , the melancholy spirit was swirling away , and at that moment she painted fire across the skyline, in dead winter days she sang A Poem By Yeats and then Kneeled To The Cross as the Haunting Birds flying all over the place made of Of Stone Wind And Pillor , she said to him that he Was But A Ghost In her Arms , and represents Shadow Of her Companion, and suddenly someone cried ''Our Fortress Is Burning '' know some sense of fear caught her attention ,she knew This will be White Mountain On Which she Will Die, not unlike the waves but die in desolation for her tomorrow will never come, as falling snow gets intensity she crossed the hawthorne passage, some wolves of timberline catch her and this was The Great Cold Death Of her existence
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Petrovsk Mizinski
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Posted: February 19 2009 at 18:48 |
Moatilliatta wrote:
Has anyone here been following Underoath? After flirting with scene music a bit, they really matured. Their past two albums, Define the Great Line & Lost in the Sound of Separation, are both unique, atmospheric, and fairly progressive. Lots of post-metal characteristics mixed in with more uptempo metal/hardcore stylings and a melodic knack not found in other bands like them. They may even deserve a place in here. |
Had no idea the band was doing that kind of thing. Admittedly, I passed the band off as "hardcore/metalcore band by numbers" probably because everyone I know that likes the band listens to nothing but basically the most generic and boring bands in the genre like Hatebreed and Atreyu so I assumed the band was in a similar vain musically. But your description has made me change my mind and I'm willing to give them a serious go. Wikipedia informs me that Post-hardcore is a big part of their sound and you guys are probably already aware I really dig post hardcore.
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Dim
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Posted: February 19 2009 at 18:50 |
angelmk wrote:
thanx prog jester,
yeah pantheist , this whole ep being commented these days, we all agree is not from this planet, from somewhere out of space planet called Agalloch , where as embers dress the sky , the melancholy spirit was swirling away , and at that moment she painted fire across the skyline, in dead winter days she sang A Poem By Yeats and then Kneeled To The Cross as the Haunting Birds flying all over the place made of Of Stone Wind And Pillor , she said to him that he Was But A Ghost In her Arms , and represents Shadow Of her Companion, and suddenly someone cried ''Our Fortress Is Burning '' know some sense of fear caught her attention ,she knew This will be White Mountain On Which she Will Die, not unlike the waves but die in desolation for her tomorrow will never come, as falling snow gets intensity she crossed the hawthorne passage, some wolves of timberline catch her and this was The Great Cold Death Of her existence |
That was pure awesome! You practically covered the whole agalloch spectrum! I want this as my sig.
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Moatilliatta
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Posted: February 20 2009 at 00:38 |
Dim wrote:
angelmk wrote:
thanx prog jester,
yeah pantheist , this whole ep being commented these days, we all agree is not from this planet, from somewhere out of space planet called Agalloch , where as embers dress the sky , the melancholy spirit was swirling away , and at that moment she painted fire across the skyline, in dead winter days she sang A Poem By Yeats and then Kneeled To The Cross as the Haunting Birds flying all over the place made of Of Stone Wind And Pillor , she said to him that he Was But A Ghost In her Arms , and represents Shadow Of her Companion, and suddenly someone cried ''Our Fortress Is Burning '' know some sense of fear caught her attention ,she knew This will be White Mountain On Which she Will Die, not unlike the waves but die in desolation for her tomorrow will never come, as falling snow gets intensity she crossed the hawthorne passage, some wolves of timberline catch her and this was The Great Cold Death Of her existence |
That was pure awesome! You practically covered the whole agalloch spectrum! I want this as my sig. |
Haha, nice work.
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Henry Plainview
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Posted: February 20 2009 at 00:44 |
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How would you guys feel if I suggested Zach Hill and Marnie Stern for math rock? Don't get mad at me if Marnie isn't actually progressive enough, I only listened to the album like once.
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if you own a sodastream i hate you
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Moatilliatta
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Posted: February 20 2009 at 00:44 |
HughesJB4 wrote:
Moatilliatta wrote:
Has anyone here been following Underoath? After flirting with scene music a bit, they really matured. Their past two albums, Define the Great Line & Lost in the Sound of Separation, are both unique, atmospheric, and fairly progressive. Lots of post-metal characteristics mixed in with more uptempo metal/hardcore stylings and a melodic knack not found in other bands like them. They may even deserve a place in here. |
Had no idea the band was doing that kind of thing.
Admittedly, I passed the band off as "hardcore/metalcore band by numbers" probably because everyone I know that likes the band listens to nothing but basically the most generic and boring bands in the genre like Hatebreed and Atreyu so I assumed the band was in a similar vain musically.
But your description has made me change my mind and I'm willing to give them a serious go.
Wikipedia informs me that Post-hardcore is a big part of their sound and you guys are probably already aware I really dig post hardcore.
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They took me by surprise. They were definitely a scene "by numbers" kind of band (although they definitely did it way better than their contemporaries and I did enjoy a few of those songs), but seeing as how they started as a death metal kind of band and slowly evolved into that scene "emo" kind of band, I didn't expect much to come from the follow up to their breakthrough album. My then girlfriend bought it and I reluctantly gave it a listen and was pleasantly surprised. Define the Great Line opens with an extremely awesome riff and then bursts into a really heavy verse and so on which grabbed me by the throat, and then the drummer starts singing and then yadda yadda I was really into it.
Unfortunately, I think because of the sound they got famous for, most people into our kind of music have passed them off since then, but they do deserve a second glance.
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Moatilliatta
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Posted: February 20 2009 at 00:48 |
Henry Plainview wrote:
How would you guys feel if I suggested Zach Hill and Marnie Stern for math rock? Don't get mad at me if Marnie isn't actually progressive enough, I only listened to the album like once. |
I don't think the frequent contributors to this thread care too much about how "actually progressive" something is, but I can't say I've heard it. I'll check it out, though.
Have you listened to Happy Songs for Happy People yet?
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Henry Plainview
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Posted: February 20 2009 at 00:53 |
Moatilliatta wrote:
Henry Plainview wrote:
How would you guys feel if I suggested Zach Hill and Marnie Stern for math rock? Don't get mad at me if Marnie isn't actually progressive enough, I only listened to the album like once. |
I don't think the frequent contributors to this thread care too much about how "actually progressive" something is, but I can't say I've heard it. I'll check it out, though.
Have you listened to Happy Songs for Happy People yet? |
It's sort of more of an indie thing, but Zach Hill drums for her on both her albums. It kind of reminds of a less noisy Melt-Banana. And Zach Hill sounds more or less like Hella did. I need more Hella, too, I never got around to downloading their other stuff, I don't know why.
No, I am on hiatus from eMusic at the moment, I was just asking because I was thinking of them and I am attempting to create as comprehensive a Saved for Later list as is possible at the moment. I currently have 170. So it may take me a little while to get to Mogwai. ;-)
Edited by Henry Plainview - February 20 2009 at 00:56
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Moatilliatta
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Well, judging from the one song I listened to, Marnie Stern is pretty darn progressive math rockin'. Definitely a huge indie vibe, but I hear a significant amount of math rock characteristics there, and it's unique.
Edited by Moatilliatta - February 20 2009 at 00:55
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Henry Plainview
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Posted: February 20 2009 at 00:56 |
Moatilliatta wrote:
Well, judging from the one song I listened to, Marnie Stern is pretty darn progressive math rockin'. Definitely a huge indie vibe, but I hear a significant amount of math rock characteristics there, and it's unique. |
Yeah, I ended up downloading the album because of Transformer. The rest of the album is pretty much the same, although a bit more repetitive than I had hoped.
I am also being egged on to buy the Henry Cow box, which would delay further purchasing even further. Although hey, it's only money!
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Posted: February 20 2009 at 01:01 |
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This conversation is of interest to me.
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angelmk
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Posted: February 20 2009 at 08:22 |
discussions here are always interesting and profound 
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Dim
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Posted: February 20 2009 at 16:52 |
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D00dz! I know this is kind of irrelavant to most our rescent conversation, and maybe even the thread, but for some reason I'm really excited that Ulver is going to play live one night on may 20th in Norway. How br00tal would that be, to see Shadows of the sun played live... I have no idea how, but I think it would be crazy!
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I know too bad I don't live in Norway. Hopefully a bootleg of it with some reasonable quality surfaces. Their songs are really fit for live play, so I assume they'll have to do some serious adaptation for the show. Very interested to hear how they change things around.
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angelmk
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Posted: February 21 2009 at 04:32 |
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it's excellent experience to see ulver live. i ve never saw them, Norway is to far from Macedonia, so it i think i'll miss this one, sadly. Garm is one of my favourite musicians from that Scandinavic scene, genius.
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Dim
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Posted: February 21 2009 at 16:51 |
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Mantle reviews are due today!
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Moatilliatta
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Posted: February 21 2009 at 17:55 |
Oh we have a due date now?
I'm typing mine up now, but man, it's difficult to analyze such a marvelous, singular work.
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