Umphreys McGee and Phish to be moved

The best way to deal with this is to have an internal vote in the team and decide if you think he should be moved (for the band that sits in "your" genre) - once you decided you can pass this on to the team that you intend to pass it on

Umphrey's first 2 studio albums did lean heavily towards jazz-fusion, and their live shows from '03-'05 also had a lot of jazzy, fusion jams. Since then they progressed to more variety in their sound, thus eclectic.

But Phish have ALWAYS been eclectic, though they also had their jazz-fusion era.

Phish is still under prog-related, but if Umphrey's McGee are under a prog category, I don't understand why Phish is not. Some of Phish's songs are more prog than Umphrey's are. Both bands should be under eclectic prog.

See my response in the thread you started in the Suggest New Bands Section...

Negoba wrote: I put in a vote for eclectic especially for Umphrey's. Phish's recorded material also falls in that category pretty well though the shows I've seen are more jazz like. (In fact the only Phish I listen to are live albums)   1 star should be a pretty rare rating, and given Umphrey's talent, it's ridiculous. But we all get our vote, so what are you going to do? It's seems like intentionally trying to work the ratings to me.

I assure you, I was not trying to work the ratings.  I don't like the album and it ranks in the bottom 3% of all CD's I own.  I don't think it is prog either but I was not trying to bring it down due to that fact.  I could certainly go on and on but that is not the purpose of the thread and I am not trying to rile up people who like them.  If people like them, that is fine by me.  I have much more important things to worry about.  I just wanted to put out a review that would give an opposite viewpoint so people who are unfamiliar with them will get two sides of the story.

I put in a vote for eclectic especially for Umphrey's. Phish's recorded material also falls in that category pretty well though the shows I've seen are more jazz like. (In fact the only Phish I listen to are live albums)

I came home from work to find it still wasn't in my mailbox. 

All in good time.


Edited by Slartibartfast - February 20 2009 at 16:32

johnobvious wrote: I just gave Anchor drops 1 star and you may be referring to me.  I'd be happy if they were moved.  Moved off the site entirely.  They hold no interest to me in any prog sense whatsoever and I am surprised they have a following here.  But if you like them, more power to you.  It's not personal.  Its business.

I was.  From what I've heard so far I'm thinking 1 star rating has got to be overly harsh for anything this band has put out, but I'll have to wait until it gets here to see where you're coming from.


Edited by Slartibartfast - February 16 2009 at 20:22

johnobvious wrote: I just gave Anchor drops 1 star and you may be referring to me.  I'd be happy if they were moved.  Moved off the site entirely.  They hold no interest to me in any prog sense whatsoever and I am surprised they have a following here.  But if you like them, more power to you.  It's not personal.  Its business.

i understand, dont wanna get into a fight.

of course, i also feel there's some bands/artists that shouldnt be here either, but whatcha gonna do?

but you're saying Phish being here is ok, but Umphrey's should go? I dont know why you'd want them (Umphrey's McGee or Phish) off the site, as they are a prog rock, by classic prog definitions or by progressive music definitions


Edited by darkshade - February 15 2009 at 13:39

Slartibartfast wrote: Local Band Does O.K. arrived yesterday.  Listened to it twice so far and really like it, too (Mantis came first) Anchordrops is still on the way.  I can see how they might get placed in the Jazz/Rock sub, but the album really as a whole is eclectic, as is Mantis.

once you're familiar with Anchor Drops and the other albums, i think a live album is the next natural step with Umphrey's. I'd personally go with Live at the Murat, which came out in 2007 (recorded in 2007 as well i think). really showcases the live Umphrey's experience. Once you get into the live material, you're a fan for good.