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Alberto Muņoz
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Topic: Best Bassist not mentioned in PA Posted: January 15 2009 at 12:48 |
Hello PA members, recently i saw a Topic that touch the topic of Most underrated guitarrist, so now i want to know the perception of the bass players.
I want to start with two great bass players not mention in PA the first is the amazing Jim Pons who played with FZ, great bass player.
Other bass player hardly mentioned in PA is Nick Simper, the first bass player of DP and then form his own band Warhorse with excellent bass playing.
your thought comments, etc
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Posted: January 15 2009 at 13:14 |
Hi,
Methinks that your musical tastes might be a bit limited ...
The hard part of this is that I can not get a Stanley Clarke to play YES (I bet you he can!) ... and neither can I get Chris Squire to play Stanley Clarke (not sure he can do it ... he's not exactly a free loader) ... while both are excellent in their medium, it is really sad that we resort to comparing them ... sometimes I want to say Apples and Oranges, but that brings up another bass player and I drop the comparison at that point.
That said, there are some really under rated Bass Players dead and alive.
In no particular order ...
Lothar Meid - Amon Duul 2 - it's not jazz, it's not rock, but the sensibility and ability to add to the feeling and moment and make it special ... is not surpassed by many folks out there ... PERIOD. And he can buzz and fuzz , wahwah, cry, rock out ... blow your ears away ... and there are not very many poeple that can free load and improvise as well ... and add so much to the music as well ... check out a couple of bridges he created in Wolf City ... and then see if that would have been better with a conventional bass or not ... not even close ... not even close ...it's the flex and beauty of the flying that makes this ... so vital and so distinctive in this band.
John Glascock - Carmen/Jethro Tull - Not sure that the firestorm "Fandangos in Space" had, the beauty of the 2nd and the strength of the 3rd album ... would have been as good without this bass player ... he single handedly blew David Bowie off the stage ... not to mention the unreal dancing that went with it ... which made Bowie come off as pretentious and not very good after wards on the "In Concert" show. This gent went on to play with Jethro Tull many years, and if you ask me, Jethro Tull has had no personality since he died. No relevance per se either!
Pekka Pohjola - If you have never heard or seen this guy, or even appreciated the work he has done with Mike Oldfield (check out "Exposed") ... you have no appreciation for a simple Fender Precision.
David Darling - You might want to listen to his album with Terje Rypdal (Eos) ... this is Jimi Hendrix meets chamber music in space and then some ... if you don't like this, you will NEVER appreciate a bass guitar in any of its forms. This is the spaciest and most far out duet you will ever hear ... I can hear you say .... "where's the lyrics? ... about now!)
Having heard that one gentleman playing Bass with Klaus Schulze ... makes you want to fly so far ... and trip so hard ... that most folks in this board ... can't even enjoy it! Ohh ... excuse me ... you only listen to formulaic top 40 in prog as all others!
Charlie Haden - Check his forays with Egberto Gismonti ... very difficult stuff to do and maintain and it takes someone that can fly easily on a free form wave ... and it takes a composer and arranger to help set up the right situation for all of them to shine ... Get "Magico" ... or "Folk Songs" ... if you have the gumption!
Replying to this without listening some ... is not fair! And no ... just having fun with your young ears!
Edited by moshkito - January 15 2009 at 13:24
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Posted: January 15 2009 at 13:16 |
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moshkito
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Posted: January 15 2009 at 13:28 |
Hi,
I was trying to reach for his name ... yes indeed ... Brand X was no more after him, or without him ... it was just a regular bass otherwise ... check him out on the Richard Barbieri's solo album ... even better ...
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Posted: January 15 2009 at 13:30 |
Two bassists that I like quite a bit who get mentioned from time to time on PA, but I don't think that often are Les Claypool from Primus and Billy Sheehan from Niacin.
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Equality 7-2521
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Posted: January 15 2009 at 13:33 |
moshkito wrote:
Hi,
I was trying to reach for his name ... yes indeed ... Brand X was no more after him, or without him ... it was just a regular bass otherwise ... check him out on the Richard Barbieri's solo album ... even better ... |
Also his current project Tunnels is some great energetic fusion.
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Posted: January 15 2009 at 13:52 |
There are two awesome Mexican bass/stick players who are Mauricio Sotelo from the band Cabezas de Cera, and Hugo Santos from Saena, both are very talented and essential to their respective bands.
Even, they both have a project of two sticks called SantoSotelos
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Posted: January 16 2009 at 19:32 |
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Posted: January 16 2009 at 19:40 |
rushfan4 wrote:
Two bassists that I like quite a bit who get mentioned from time to time on PA, but I don't think that often are Les Claypool from Primus and Billy Sheehan from Niacin. |
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Posted: January 16 2009 at 19:48 |
Dave Hope and Billy Greer are both great and barely mentioned.
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Posted: January 16 2009 at 19:50 |
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Posted: January 16 2009 at 19:58 |
rushfan4 wrote:
Two bassists that I like quite a bit who get mentioned from time to time on PA, but I don't think that often are Les Claypool from Primus and Billy Sheehan from Niacin. |
I've had the pleasure of seeing Billy Sheehan live in Steve Vai's 'Breed' band. One of the most spectacular bass players around. Les Claypool, I love his stuff, a genius IMO. Fantastic technique and he brought new sounds to the bass guitar.
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Posted: January 16 2009 at 20:04 |
If we're talking about great bassists that aren't mentioned really, I'll say Lee Dorman from the classic Iron Butterfly lineup. Listening to "Inna Gadda Davinci" really proves what a solid, solid bassist he was--and don't argue that that tune isn't rythmn based more than anything.
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Posted: January 16 2009 at 20:23 |
micky wrote:
| Martin Luther King Jr. was a bassist?
Happy MLK Day, America.
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Posted: January 16 2009 at 20:26 |
Equality 7-2521 wrote:
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YESSSSSS! May I be permitted to add 2 other "fretless" wunderkinds = MICK KARN and JOHN G. PERRY .
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Posted: January 16 2009 at 20:26 |
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Posted: January 16 2009 at 20:29 |
micky wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
micky wrote:
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Martin Luther King Jr. was a bassist?
Happy MLK Day, America.
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hahhaha.. amen brother!!
and a special MLK day it will be indeed
and if you don't really know who that is... let me know.. especially if you play bass... you know him.. trust me
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Posted: January 16 2009 at 20:30 |
Although not progressive, Level 42's Mark King is probably the best bassist I've heard.
In progressive music, however, Marillion's Pete Trewavas doesn't get nearly the recognition he deserves. Just an all around amazing bassist.
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