Best Bassist not mentioned in PA
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Topic: Best Bassist not mentioned in PA
Posted By: Alberto Muņoz
Subject: Best Bassist not mentioned in PA
Date Posted: January 15 2009 at 12:48
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Hello PA members, recently i saw a Topic that touch the topic of Most underrated guitarrist, so now i want to know the perception of the bass players.
I want to start with two great bass players not mention in PA the first is the amazing Jim Pons who played with FZ, great bass player.
Other bass player hardly mentioned in PA is Nick Simper, the first bass player of DP and then form his own band Warhorse with excellent bass playing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AerSmz1BEcY - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AerSmz1BEcY
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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: January 15 2009 at 13:14
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Hi,
Methinks that your musical tastes might be a bit limited ...
The hard part of this is that I can not get a Stanley Clarke to play YES (I bet you he can!) ... and neither can I get Chris Squire to play Stanley Clarke (not sure he can do it ... he's not exactly a free loader) ... while both are excellent in their medium, it is really sad that we resort to comparing them ... sometimes I want to say Apples and Oranges, but that brings up another bass player and I drop the comparison at that point.
That said, there are some really under rated Bass Players dead and alive.
In no particular order ...
Lothar Meid - Amon Duul 2 - it's not jazz, it's not rock, but the sensibility and ability to add to the feeling and moment and make it special ... is not surpassed by many folks out there ... PERIOD. And he can buzz and fuzz , wahwah, cry, rock out ... blow your ears away ... and there are not very many poeple that can free load and improvise as well ... and add so much to the music as well ... check out a couple of bridges he created in Wolf City ... and then see if that would have been better with a conventional bass or not ... not even close ... not even close ...it's the flex and beauty of the flying that makes this ... so vital and so distinctive in this band.
John Glascock - Carmen/Jethro Tull - Not sure that the firestorm "Fandangos in Space" had, the beauty of the 2nd and the strength of the 3rd album ... would have been as good without this bass player ... he single handedly blew David Bowie off the stage ... not to mention the unreal dancing that went with it ... which made Bowie come off as pretentious and not very good after wards on the "In Concert" show. This gent went on to play with Jethro Tull many years, and if you ask me, Jethro Tull has had no personality since he died. No relevance per se either!
Pekka Pohjola - If you have never heard or seen this guy, or even appreciated the work he has done with Mike Oldfield (check out "Exposed") ... you have no appreciation for a simple Fender Precision.
David Darling - You might want to listen to his album with Terje Rypdal (Eos) ... this is Jimi Hendrix meets chamber music in space and then some ... if you don't like this, you will NEVER appreciate a bass guitar in any of its forms. This is the spaciest and most far out duet you will ever hear ... I can hear you say .... "where's the lyrics? ... about now!)
Having heard that one gentleman playing Bass with Klaus Schulze ... makes you want to fly so far ... and trip so hard ... that most folks in this board ... can't even enjoy it! Ohh ... excuse me ... you only listen to formulaic top 40 in prog as all others!
Charlie Haden - Check his forays with Egberto Gismonti ... very difficult stuff to do and maintain and it takes someone that can fly easily on a free form wave ... and it takes a composer and arranger to help set up the right situation for all of them to shine ... Get "Magico" ... or "Folk Songs" ... if you have the gumption!
Replying to this without listening some ... is not fair! And no ... just having fun with your young ears!
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Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: January 15 2009 at 13:16
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Percy Jones
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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: January 15 2009 at 13:28
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Hi,
I was trying to reach for his name ... yes indeed ... Brand X was no more after him, or without him ... it was just a regular bass otherwise ... check him out on the Richard Barbieri's solo album ... even better ...
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Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: January 15 2009 at 13:30
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Two bassists that I like quite a bit who get mentioned from time to time on PA, but I don't think that often are Les Claypool from Primus and Billy Sheehan from Niacin. ------------- 
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Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: January 15 2009 at 13:33
Also his current project Tunnels is some great energetic fusion. ------------- "One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. " |
moshkito wrote:Posted By: memowakeman
Date Posted: January 15 2009 at 13:52
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There are two awesome Mexican bass/stick players who are Mauricio Sotelo from the band Cabezas de Cera, and Hugo Santos from Saena, both are very talented and essential to their respective bands.
Even, they both have a project of two sticks called SantoSotelos ------------- Follow me on twitter @memowakeman |
Posted By: TheCaptain
Date Posted: January 16 2009 at 19:32
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Gary Karr. |
Posted By: MovingPictures07
Date Posted: January 16 2009 at 19:40
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Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: January 16 2009 at 19:48
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Dave Hope and Billy Greer are both great and barely mentioned.
------------- https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays" rel="nofollow - https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: January 16 2009 at 19:50
------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Petrovsk Mizinski
Date Posted: January 16 2009 at 19:58
I've had the pleasure of seeing Billy Sheehan live in Steve Vai's 'Breed' band. One of the most spectacular bass players around. Les Claypool, I love his stuff, a genius IMO. Fantastic technique and he brought new sounds to the bass guitar. |
Posted By: June
Date Posted: January 16 2009 at 20:00
Posted By: Petrovsk Mizinski
Date Posted: January 16 2009 at 20:02
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Posted By: The Whistler
Date Posted: January 16 2009 at 20:04
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If we're talking about great bassists that aren't mentioned really, I'll say Lee Dorman from the classic Iron Butterfly lineup. Listening to "Inna Gadda Davinci" really proves what a solid, solid bassist he was--and don't argue that that tune isn't rythmn based more than anything. ------------- "There seem to be quite a large percentage of young American boys out there tonight. A long way from home, eh? Well so are we... Gotta stick together." -I. Anderson |
Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: January 16 2009 at 20:23
 Martin Luther King Jr. was a bassist? Happy MLK Day, America. ------------- https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays" rel="nofollow - https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays |
Posted By: tszirmay
Date Posted: January 16 2009 at 20:26
YESSSSSS! May I be permitted to add 2 other "fretless" wunderkinds = MICK KARN and JOHN G. PERRY .  ------------- I never post anything anywhere without doing more than basic research, often in depth. |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: January 16 2009 at 20:26
 hahhaha.. amen brother!! and a special MLK day it will be indeed and if you don't really know who that is... let me know.. especially if you play bass... you know him.. trust me ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: January 16 2009 at 20:29
You ain't gotta tell me nothin'. Mr. James Jamerson died 23 days before I was born, unfortunately. The man was a Mo-Town legend. "My Girl," anyone? ------------- https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays" rel="nofollow - https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays |
Posted By: E-Dub
Date Posted: January 16 2009 at 20:30
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Although not progressive, Level 42's Mark King is probably the best bassist I've heard. In progressive music, however, Marillion's Pete Trewavas doesn't get nearly the recognition he deserves. Just an all around amazing bassist. E ------------- 
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Posted By: jammun
Date Posted: January 16 2009 at 20:34
Yes indeed, that guy ranks right up there. And perhaps we should include his indirect descendent, Bootsy Collins.
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: January 16 2009 at 20:35
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^ always been a favorite of mine Eric Robert - .. good man  him and Benny 'Papa Zita' Benjamin... greatest rhythm section known to man. ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: January 16 2009 at 20:36
oh god yes.... micky loves him some Bootsy ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: tszirmay
Date Posted: January 16 2009 at 20:39
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Toss in Fabio Zuffanti of Finisterre, Maschera di Cera , Aries and Zaal fame , as well as the imaginative Rickenbakers of Giglielmo Morietti of Tapobran and Holland's Gijs Koopman of Knight Area, Novox, Cliffhanger fame. Other fretless geniuses include Nick Beggs, Hansford Rowe, Tim Landers, Guy Pratt and John Giblin. All stupendous ! ------------- I never post anything anywhere without doing more than basic research, often in depth. |
Posted By: jammun
Date Posted: January 16 2009 at 20:39
And now that I'm thinking of bassists, Free's Andy Fraser deserves at least one 
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Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: January 16 2009 at 20:39
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Well, since the band (and their entire discography) is shamelessly here on PA...maybe he doesn't qualify... But I can't resist:   ------------- https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays" rel="nofollow - https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: January 16 2009 at 20:46
oh yes... Mr. Big anyone? A couple of clappies from me ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: timothy leary
Date Posted: January 16 2009 at 21:06
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: January 16 2009 at 21:10
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that's one you don't see mentioned too often
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Posted By: mrcozdude
Date Posted: January 17 2009 at 01:50
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Don't care for sheehan,it looks impressive but doesn't havent any impact or taste IMO as for the Stupid amounts of trebel,pinch harmonics and shredding dont get me started lol
Larry Graham,Paul Chambers,Ron Carter,Dave Holland,Mark King (i guess),John Paul Jones,Victor Wooten,Steve Bailey,Ryan Martinie.Geezer Butler,Steve Harris,Charles Mingus,Pino Palladino,Donald Dunn,Willie Dixon & Juan Alderete deserves an hournable mention,his work with TMV is so solid. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/cozfunkel/" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: mobby
Date Posted: January 17 2009 at 02:12
| Klaus-Peter Matziol, one of the greatest, influenced Steve Harris of IM but hardly no one mentions... |
Posted By: easytargets
Date Posted: January 17 2009 at 02:24
Two very good bassists indeed. IMO they are not as recognized as Geddy,
Levin,Whetton,Squire,...,just because they hadnīt played in any of the great
prog classic bands.
From this couple,though enjoying the modern sound and techniques that
Claypool has brought to the scene,I prefer Sheehan.I saw him last september
in a clinic he did in my town (very rare, only clinic in Spain and in a small and no
well known village) and he was very nice and totally jaw-dropping when playing
some tunes.I think he has the skills (maybe more) to belong to the same level
that the bass totems I mentioned above.
 ------------- The water rushes over all cities crash in the mighty wave; the final man is very small, plunging in for his final bathe |
Posted By: easytargets
Date Posted: January 17 2009 at 02:31
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I forgot to add, hum, letīs see...
Miller and Lepond from Symphony X.
A couple of excellent bassists usually
forgotten (much praise for Romeo&Pinella
but even they need a good rythmic foundation). ------------- The water rushes over all cities crash in the mighty wave; the final man is very small, plunging in for his final bathe |