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darksideof
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Posted: January 13 2009 at 09:32 | |||
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Alberto Muņoz
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Posted: January 13 2009 at 09:46 | |||
ah, ok
Listen to their first album and Io Sono Nato Libero.
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Alberto Muņoz
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Posted: January 13 2009 at 09:49 | |||
Guys what do you think about this Osanna track: Everybody Gonna See You Die. Quintessential to me!!!
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NotAProghead
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Posted: January 13 2009 at 10:31 | |||
I guess you speak Italian. Please give us some examples of primitivity (translated in English). What is the ideological message of the album? When I learned Italian (though only in a short period of time, and I was not a good pupil, so I "parlo italiano ma brutto" , I should say bruttissimo), my teacher, natural born Italian, told me Banco lyrics are excellent and often complex.
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Who are you and who am I to say we know the reason why... (D. Gilmour)
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harmonium.ro
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Posted: January 13 2009 at 15:44 | |||
^ Remember, I didn't say it's lyrically primitive, but ideologically primitive. From the first two verses of the lyrics it already claims that my Christian Faith in a nonsense made up by my limited thinking. Having lived in a country where faith (of any kind) was forbidden, I find it repulsive and feel like throwing up. I don't mind spiritual skepticism and virtuous atheism, but that's something totally different.
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Raff
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Posted: January 13 2009 at 16:05 | |||
Well, as a native speaker of Italian, I can tell you that Darwin's original lyrics don't mention anything like nonsense or limited thinking. They just say, "try to think in a slightly different way', which is (sorry for the pun) quite different. The only line I can see as somewhat offensive from your point of view is when it says, "e io stupido ancora a credere/a chi mi dice che la carne č polvere", which should however be read in context - that is, our flesh will not become dust, but be transformed, and in turn give life to other organisms.
That said, I can understand your experience, but as someone who lived for almost 50 years in a country where the Church still holds a lot of sway and tries to dictate people's behaviour, I can understand Banco's stance. |
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NotAProghead
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Posted: January 13 2009 at 16:24 | |||
Swan Song, do you mean every mention of Darwin and his theory is offensive?
I lived almost half of my life in a country where religions were not welcomed (USSR). Now, though I live in the same city, the church is sometimes too active. I remember parents of one schoolgirl came to the court with a petition against studying Darwin theory in schools. They told their daughter's religious feelings suffer because of this. Isn't it crazy?
Edited by NotAProghead - January 13 2009 at 16:25 |
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Who are you and who am I to say we know the reason why... (D. Gilmour)
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harmonium.ro
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Posted: January 14 2009 at 01:50 | |||
@ Raff: May impressions may be that strong also because the message is so very powerfully delivered. If I only read the lines they don't compare the slightest to the way I feel them when sang by Di Giaccomo.
@NotAProgHead: I don't find Darwin's theory itself or the mention of it offensive. I believe in Darwin's theory myself. What I find offensive is the mention that having a religious faith means close-minded-ness or how that's called. Seems like everyone here understands the other's position (for example I can understand both the position about the Catholic Church and NotAProghead's stand about the Russian Orthodox Church), so let's move on. Edited by Swan Song - January 14 2009 at 01:51 |
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Mandrakeroot
Forum Senior Member Italian Prog Specialist Joined: March 01 2006 Location: San Foca, Friûl Status: Offline Points: 5851 |
Posted: January 14 2009 at 03:57 | |||
I confirm all !!!
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Mandrakeroot
Forum Senior Member Italian Prog Specialist Joined: March 01 2006 Location: San Foca, Friûl Status: Offline Points: 5851 |
Posted: January 14 2009 at 03:59 | |||
Like all IP lyrics!!!
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Mandrakeroot
Forum Senior Member Italian Prog Specialist Joined: March 01 2006 Location: San Foca, Friûl Status: Offline Points: 5851 |
Posted: January 14 2009 at 04:07 | |||
Well... Frankly, this type of speech are correct... But wrong. Because you see... As' Darwin! ' is a concept album about Charles Darwin and his theory of evolution... I do not understand the attacks of atheism or similar things... Also because the subject is Charles Darwin and his 'theory of Evolution'... And if you have some time the story of Darwin in the brain... Do you understand the significance of this concept album!
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DamoXt7942
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Posted: January 14 2009 at 04:11 | |||
Me?...Just now learnin' 'bout Italian prog...
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Mandrakeroot
Forum Senior Member Italian Prog Specialist Joined: March 01 2006 Location: San Foca, Friûl Status: Offline Points: 5851 |
Posted: January 14 2009 at 04:33 | |||
Well... For me is only a great POWER COMPOSITION by a GREAT BAND!!! Edited by Mandrakeroot - January 14 2009 at 04:34 |
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Alberto Muņoz
Forum Senior Member Joined: July 26 2006 Location: Mexico Status: Offline Points: 3577 |
Posted: January 14 2009 at 11:56 | |||
Also other Band to pay attention is this: |
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Mandrakeroot
Forum Senior Member Italian Prog Specialist Joined: March 01 2006 Location: San Foca, Friûl Status: Offline Points: 5851 |
Posted: January 15 2009 at 04:33 | |||
Rustichelli & Bordini are excellent!!!
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Mandrakeroot
Forum Senior Member Italian Prog Specialist Joined: March 01 2006 Location: San Foca, Friûl Status: Offline Points: 5851 |
Posted: January 16 2009 at 08:27 | |||
In this moment I'm listening to 'Serendipity' by PFM and in particular the song 'KNA (Kaleidoscope Neutronic Accelerator)'. This song is a simple POP with a catchy refrain. I think it is one of the most beautiful songs of PFM. The feeling that I forward it is really unique!ų
Great is also the song 'L'Immenso Campo Insensato', another great POP song.
'Serendipity' like me especially for the quality of the songs, even though it has a POP album. And this is important, knowing that it is not easy to stay at some level for all this time (it is from mid 60's that I Quelli/ I Krel/ PFM are at thiese standards)!
Frankly I like very much to that fact. And I noticed that this not be the only similar case in the IP!) |
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rosenbach
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Posted: January 17 2009 at 04:07 | |||
I love italian prog too and mostly Banco, i think they have been one of the most constant IP bands (unlike PFM, Le Orme or New Trolls in the late 70's) and i agree with Alberto, you shoulkd start with their first album and Io son nato libero. About their lyrics we should remember that they supported socialism like some other italian groups of that time (Area for example) |
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Mandrakeroot
Forum Senior Member Italian Prog Specialist Joined: March 01 2006 Location: San Foca, Friûl Status: Offline Points: 5851 |
Posted: January 18 2009 at 05:29 | |||
I love italian prog too and mostly Banco, i think they have been one of the most constant IP bands (unlike PFM, Le Orme or New Trolls in the late 70's) and i agree with Alberto, you shoulkd start with their first album and Io son nato libero. About their lyrics we should remember that they supported socialism like some other italian groups of that time (Area for example)[/QUOTE] Well... Area supported communism, to be true.
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DamoXt7942
Special Collaborator Joined: October 15 2008 Location: Okayama, Japan Status: Offline Points: 17493 |
Posted: January 19 2009 at 01:48 | |||
Anyway, let me ask a question, mandy.
It's very hard and difficult for me (Japanese) to get some of Italian progressive rock albums.
Can you get old Italian progressive albums (including now-unreleased) more easily?
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Mandrakeroot
Forum Senior Member Italian Prog Specialist Joined: March 01 2006 Location: San Foca, Friûl Status: Offline Points: 5851 |
Posted: January 19 2009 at 04:23 | |||
Here is a list of sites where you can find what you looking for, DamoXt7942:
www.redmoonrecords.com (record shop)
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