I love Italian Prog!!!

Swan Song wrote: Alberto Muñoz wrote: Swan Song wrote: ^ I listened to "Darwin" and I dislikled the music and the voice in particular but it was nothing special. What I find disgusting is the ideological message. Very primitive from an intellectual perspective and very aggresively delivered. Yuck!   Well don't except a philosophical treatment of the subject, is only just an valid effort to show the music that to me is great As a prog-fan I always come back to an album I didn't like and give it several chances, just like it I did with Pawn Hearts for example - I found it horrible at the beginning, now I love it. I would do that too for Banco, I'd try acquire that taste - but the message will always put me off even before starting. BTW I am talking about Darwin and it's anti-religious subject. What are their other albums about?

Swan Song wrote: I listened to "Darwin" and I dislikled the music and the voice in particular but it was nothing special. What I find disgusting is the ideological message. Very primitive from an intellectual perspective and very aggresively delivered.

Well, as a native speaker of Italian, I can tell you that Darwin's original lyrics don't mention anything like nonsense or limited thinking. They just say, "try to think in a slightly different way', which is (sorry for the pun) quite different.  The only line I can see as somewhat offensive from your point of view is when it says, "e io stupido ancora a credere/a chi mi dice che la carne è polvere", which should however be read in context - that is, our flesh will not become dust, but be transformed, and in turn give life to other organisms.

That said, I can understand your experience, but as someone who lived for almost 50 years in a country where the Church still holds a lot of sway and tries to dictate people's behaviour, I can understand Banco's stance.  

@ Raff: May impressions may be that strong also because the message is so very powerfully delivered. If I only read the lines they don't compare the slightest to the way I feel them when sang by Di Giaccomo.

@NotAProgHead: I don't find Darwin's theory itself or the mention of it offensive. I believe in Darwin's theory myself. What I find offensive is the mention that having a religious faith means close-minded-ness or how that's called.

Seems like everyone here understands the other's position (for example I can understand both the position about the Catholic Church and NotAProghead's stand about the Russian Orthodox Church), so let's move on.




Edited by Swan Song - January 14 2009 at 01:51

NotAProghead wrote: Swan Song wrote: I listened to "Darwin" and I dislikled the music and the voice in particular but it was nothing special. What I find disgusting is the ideological message. Very primitive from an intellectual perspective and very aggresively delivered.  I guess you speak Italian. Please give us some examples of primitivity (translated in English). What is the ideological message of the album? When I learned Italian (though only in a short period of time, and I was not a good pupil, so I "parlo italiano ma brutto" , I should say bruttissimo), my teacher, natural born Italian, told me Banco lyrics are excellent and often complex.

Mandrakeroot wrote: DamoXt7942 wrote: williamthepimp wrote: HI Guys, I saw - many many years ago - one of the first italian concerts of PFM (they were the support for the Colosseum tour) - New Trolls - Orme. Italian prog is very great and bands like Osanna - New Trolls - Orme (the last "Live in Pensilvanya" is very amazing) - Banco del Mutuo Soccorso - Formula 3 and all the others are very very fantastic. Also today this music is incredible if you think that many of them were playing in tellers. Long life (live) to Italian Prog.   I think you're Right. And also feel so fresh and novel with now listening to older Italian stuffs.   I confirm all !!!

Also other Band to pay attention is this:

In this moment I'm listening to 'Serendipity' by PFM and in particular the song 'KNA (Kaleidoscope Neutronic Accelerator)'. This song is a simple POP with a catchy refrain. I think it is one of the most beautiful songs of PFM. The feeling that I forward it is really unique!ù

rosenbach wrote: Alberto Muñoz wrote: Swan Song wrote: Alberto Muñoz wrote: [QUOTE=Swan Song]^ I listened to "Darwin" and I dislikled the music and the voice in particular but it was nothing special. What I find disgusting is the ideological message. Very primitive from an intellectual perspective and very aggresively delivered. Yuck!   Well don't except a philosophical treatment of the subject, is only just an valid effort to show the music that to me is great As a prog-fan I always come back to an album I didn't like and give it several chances, just like it I did with Pawn Hearts for example - I found it horrible at the beginning, now I love it. I would do that too for Banco, I'd try acquire that taste - but the message will always put me off even before starting. BTW I am talking about Darwin and it's anti-religious subject. What are their other albums about?   ah, ok Listen to their first album and Io Sono Nato Libero.

I love italian prog too and mostly Banco, i think they have been one of the most constant IP bands (unlike PFM, Le Orme or New Trolls in the late 70's) and i agree with Alberto, you shoulkd start with their first album and Io son nato libero.

About their lyrics we should remember that they supported socialism like some other italian groups of that time (Area for example)[/QUOTE]