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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 02 2009 at 22:30
Originally posted by HughesJB4 HughesJB4 wrote:

Rogerthat, for the record, Steve Hackett does do right hand tapping and 3 note per string legato stuff, so technically, he does actually shred. Okay, fair enough, he didn't do that stuff while in Genesis really, but in his solo records, he does some shed stuff.
It's more a question of whether you find his style enjoyable or not really.
Personally, I think Steve Hackett incorporates shred technique into his solos very tastefully, an opinion I'm sure you share.
I tend to find his playing pretty packed with emotion too and he's definitely one of the better lead players in rock.


Yeah, I know, I meant shredding more in a relative sense, it's not face-melting shredding we are talking about when it's Hackett  -he has done tapping on Dancing With The Moonlit Knight by the way and a few other Genesis songs, I know of this song for sure because I have seen him use tapping in the video of this song. And there is the incredibly elegant use of tapping in Shadow of the Hierophant which makes for  a nice contrast with the most popular example of tapping in rock - Eruption, which came out about three years later. My experience of Hackett's solo records stops at Spectral Mornings, so I don't know if he used shredding in the more conventional, furious sense in later albums, knowing what little I do of the man, I doubt it.  It would not do for Hackett to burn the axe when he can caress it as lovingly as he can. Wink  Anyway, as I said, I can well understand that people would not find his style exciting enough because they might look for different things from electric guitar, it's all down to one's tastes.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 02 2009 at 22:35
^Although it's started to veer pretty off topic, I will have to say, I think Steve Hackett continued to make some fantastic music as a solo artist after Spectral Mornings, so definitely check out his later work.
I actually don't even listen to Genesis anymore to be honest, but I still listen to solo Hackett stuff at least, once a week, if not more.
There is some stuff from his post 2000 releases that have actually pretty face melting technical stuff, but still within the boundaries of tasteful IMO.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 02 2009 at 22:41
Thanks, will get to his later albums. End of Hackett appreciation sub- thread! Big smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 03 2009 at 00:28
I think the only player in DT who is the shiz is Kevin Moore. Too bad he is not in DT now
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 04 2009 at 21:35
Originally posted by The Pessimist The Pessimist wrote:

I only can really appreciate one of his solos: the solo at the climax of Voices. Not only his greatest solo, but a world class solo as well I can safely say. I'm going to keep further opinions to myself in fear of upsetting the DT fanboys


YES.

I wonder if that's it. When it came to DT I started with Train of Thought and then moved on to 6DOIT, and I thought both were okay. But Awake came next, and while I'd thought of Petrucci as an awesome guitarist, I was absolutely blown away by Voices. To me Voices is a bit like Firth of Fifth in the sense that the rest of the album could have been euro-pop dance beats and I STILL would rank it my favourite album just because of the presence of the one song.

Anyway, back on topic, Voices (and then a couple choice cuts off IAW) absolutely floored me and I could never really back into his later guitaring as much. I'd opened the Pandora's Box - I'd heard exactly what Petrucci is capable of and how much better it is than what he's been doing recently. I could never go back.

As I've said, there is nothing inherently wrong with shred. But when it's all speed all the time, like on ToT... That's just laziness. It's saying "I've honed my chops to an unbelievable level so I'll just go as fast as I can on every solo and not put any effort or creativity into it." I mean some of his solos on ToT are good, but they sound the exact same as all his other solos on ToT, and really, all his other solos on 6DOIT (never understood the high praise for that album. The second disc in particular was disappointing) and while I haven't heard it yet, presumably all his other solos on Octavarium as well.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 07 2009 at 05:04
Hollow Years solo - Live at Budokhan
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 07 2009 at 15:34
The only dream theater song id go out of my way to listen to, meaning the only one id listen to that didnt come up on a random iTunes shuffle, would be Hells Kitchen. tasteful, shredly at times, just a good song with a very memorable melody. mission accomplished. not much else tickles my fancey however. . .
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 07 2009 at 17:10
Wait, what the hell?
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