Does lyrical content worry you?

Dean wrote: A little closed  that's an understatement my friend.

Good stuff nonetheless.

Ya know, I love Dio, alwways have loved Black Sabbath. Am a fan of extreme horror movies. (Maybe should start athread regarding that). Though there are things in Rock/Metal music that do disturb me!!!!!!! I do not like Death / Extreme / Black metal!!!!!!!! Love Dream Theater and Symphony X!!!!!!! Why is that ????!!!!! I do not believe that Black / Death Metal deserves a p-lace in prog music!!!!!! Prog music does, but a true prog musician cares more about his art than in getting certain messages across!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Anyone who loves Satan aint no friend of mine and neither is he a friend of Neil Peart, Jon Anderson, or most other musicians who purely care about the art of music. Love Queensryche's Mindcrime and yes the lyrics are controversial but they aint no prayer to Satan!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

None of the artists mentioned above talk  about the same things in music that some others do!!!!! Why is that??? Question religion - sure - why disparage it???!!!!  I know truths that many will never know!!!! Why is that???? The real truth is more amazing than any occult brief!!!!!

Hey Winterlight - I've made a comprehensive study on the occult and as I've loved music all of mmy life I've more than studied it!!!!! The real truth is shocking and un - deniable!!!! I've always loved music but have learned  to discern what is ok and what is not!!!!! Budgies Breadfan is absoutely OK, Opeth's The Grand Conjuration is not ok!!!!!

DavetheSlave wrote: Hey Winterlight - I've made a comprehensive study on the occult and as I've loved music all of mmy life I've more than studied it!!!!! The real truth is shocking and un - deniable!!!! I've always loved music but have learned  to discern what is ok and what is not!!!!! Budgies Breadfan is absoutely OK, Opeth's The Grand Conjuration is not ok!!!!!

Davetheslave, can you provide anything more than lots of "!!!!!!!!"?

I guess if you had a band and you wrote the lyrics, you would have to report yourself here in PA..."I've made a comprehensive study of Davetheslave lyrics, the truth is undeniable, they're all '!!!!!!!!' !!!!!!!!!!!"

DavetheSlave wrote: Do we admit that Death and Black metal make a lot of reference to Satan and violence in their music?? YES. MILLIONS OF THEM. THOUSANDS OF THEM. METAL REEKS OF SATANISM!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (!!!!!!! is a copy of style)   Then a further question - why do the Top bands on progarchives per ratings not do the same? What does this have to do with anything? Neither does most classical music, most reggaeton music.... Last time I heard Sesame Street also wasn't full of Satan...Why did Yes, Genesis, Rush and the like not have to go the same way? Mmm... Maybe because they DIDN'T WANT TO. It was not one of their interests? Again, what does this prove? Can you explain? Lack of coherence usually breeds misunderstandings. As I've said I don't like direct praise for Satan in lyrics and neither do I like a direct prayer to God in music else I would be listening to Hillsong! Ok... That can be understood. Your opinion. Ok. Respected. Why can't artists leave those things alone? Because not all of them think like you. Why, if they want infamy, don't they attack Allah or dream up stories about Mohammed - I'll tell you why - because they will then soon be ex artists!! As much as I could agree with the need to attack more religions instead of just one, there are two (many more actually) obvious reasons: 1, most of the artists are born in countries of western tradition, where christianity rules. It just follows that they would attack the religion that has oppresed them (in their views, and I agree). Islamic countries are not the ideal birthplace of any art lately when a tyrannic muslim majority reigns and censors. 2, as you say, if one artists decides to sing about Allah, the ever-adoring Muslim priests will issue an fatwa and we'd soon be with one less artist in the planet.   Religion should be left out of music- the Christians want to convert and make no mistake so do the Satanists! Maybe. And both should have the right if one has it. Not only one. I don't mind lyrics that question religion but those that blatantly flaunt it bother me! That is your right.

DavetheSlave wrote: Why, if they want infamy, don't they attack Allah or dream up stories about Mohammed - I'll tell you why - because they will then soon be ex artists!!

Christians and Muslims do believe in the same god though. I don't think there's any particular need to use the Arabic name if the lyrics are in English and the band in question is from a Christian country.

DavetheSlave wrote: Do we admit that Death and Black metal make a lot of reference to Satan and violence in their music? The question is loaded.  Still, I'll provide a response: some bands, of which some are death or black metal, make lyrical references to Satan or violence.  This is not interesting in anyway. Then a further question - why do the Top bands on progarchives per ratings not do the same? Why did Yes, Genesis, Rush and the like not have to go the same way? Yes' Tales From Topographic Oceans is premised on Buddhist scriptures, which from a Christian perspective may as well be premised on Satanism.  In at least one instance does Genesis fail to provide a flattering portrait of an ostensibly Christian priest (in particular, the sordid encounter during "The Battle of Epping Forest").  Finally, Peart's lyrics often proclaim a secular outlook, again hardly a view reconcilable with Christianity. As I've said I don't like direct praise for Satan in lyrics and neither do I like a direct prayer to God in music else I would be listening to Hillsong! Fine.  In that case, you can choose simply to avoid such music. Why can't artists leave those things alone? Probably because they have little interest in the opinion of DavetheSlave (or, for that matter, WinterLight). Why, if they want infamy, don't they attack Allah or dream up stories about Mohammed - I'll tell you why - because they will then soon be ex artists!! I believe this question has been answered at least twice elsewhere in this thread. Religion should be left out of music- the Christians want to convert and make no mistake so do the Satanists! Why?  Religion is as valid a topic as any. I don't mind lyrics that question religion but those that blatantly flaunt it bother me! "Flout" rather than "flaunt", I think you mean.  In any case, since such lyrics usually tend toward the sophomoric, I don't care much for them either.  Still, a lyricist can write whatever he pleases.