Does lyrical content worry you?
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Topic: Does lyrical content worry you?
Posted By: DavetheSlave
Subject: Does lyrical content worry you?
Date Posted: December 10 2008 at 06:15
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I, for one, don't listen to certain bands where the lyrics are rabidly anti Christian or extremely anti Social. I'm fairly open minded in that I find nothing wrong with the lyrics of Bands like Black Sabbath, Iron Maiden and the like but I will not listen to certain Bands no matter how good the music is - Manowar for example.
I won't listen to music that tells me that killing my neigbour is ok.
I'm not one of those who espouses that Suicide Solution drove anyone to suicide but I suppose with an impressionable person anything is possible.
If Rush can sing about a Red Sports car then I don't see why anyone has to sing about a love affair with Satan or a Demon positively.
------------- I'm a normal psychopath |
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Posted By: hermosotrozo
Date Posted: December 10 2008 at 07:01
| no they dont, i listen to the songs for my enjoyment, i dnt think i will be worried if thre are somethings in the lyrics that hurts somebody's sentiments can deter me from listening to it |
Posted By: Vompatti
Date Posted: December 10 2008 at 07:03
| I fully agree with slaver here. Good lyrics (i.e. the kind that don't ruin the music but add something to it) are always intelligent and insightful at least on some level, and I can't really imagine anti-religious or senselessly violent lyrics being anything but stupid and embarrassing. To me such lyrics imply that the band and especially the lyric-writer don't really have anything constructive to say and that they seemingly have no idea what music and art in general should be about. |
Posted By: DavetheSlave
Date Posted: December 10 2008 at 07:17
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Hi Vompatti- what worries me more than if they have nothing to say is that maybe they are wanting to spread certain idiologies and thought patterns. Musical terrorism anyone???
No seriously - I don't mind fantasy, I don't mind dark dreams, I don't mind wet dreams, but I do mind prayers to Satan and bash the next Christian you see. I do mind let's kill the Black or the Yellow guy or lets commit mass suicide.
Many years ago I got stuck in the occult and that was the influence of a Band that I loved and still love today although now I'm a little more mature and can handle that bands lyrics. ------------- I'm a normal psychopath |
Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: December 10 2008 at 07:19
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Dunno, yet. I barely care of lyrical content, don't in few ocassions I enjoy reading them: Genesis, Floyd, etc. I do like Black Sabbath, Black Widow and Atomic Rooster, and the lyrical conent for me seems interesting to read about. I said earlier that I didn't know, because I still haven't heard any band with a lyrical content that affects me. Also, as I said earlier, I barely care of lyrics, so if the music is good, bring them on. |
Posted By: DavetheSlave
Date Posted: December 10 2008 at 07:29
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Hi Cacho - with the bands that you mentioned you would hardly have come across anything to worry about although I can't say that I'm familiar with Black Widow - weren't they inspired by Black sabbath? ------------- I'm a normal psychopath |
Posted By: Vompatti
Date Posted: December 10 2008 at 07:31
I get your point, but I believe that people who are drawn to these kind of bands already share their ideology. The lyrics may or may not strengthen their views, but I don't think music alone can turn anyone into a satanist, an extreme racist or anything like that. |
slaver wrote:Posted By: DavetheSlave
Date Posted: December 10 2008 at 07:43
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Hi Vompatti - I wasn't drawn into the occult other than for an interest in the lyrics of a favorite Band - that led to the next step!! ------------- I'm a normal psychopath |
Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: December 10 2008 at 07:50
| I agree with Slaver and Vompatti too... |
Posted By: DavetheSlave
Date Posted: December 10 2008 at 07:56
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Hi someone_else.
As well, try to say something against Islam in any form and they could well want to do you in!!! That's taboo, so why are so many so lenient?? ------------- I'm a normal psychopath |
Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: December 10 2008 at 08:04
| I can't tell, but I think it has something to do with freedom of speech and freedom of religion being part of our culture... |
Posted By: Visitor13
Date Posted: December 10 2008 at 08:17
... but you listen to Korn. Didn't they have a song about killing Davis's (step)mother on their first or second album? Sure, they may have mellowed out somewhat later (I don't know, I haven't listened to them in ages), but I'm curious... I see your point, btw, but if I started to ignore musicians because I didn't agree with some of their views, I'd very quickly run out of music to listen to. |
Posted By: DavetheSlave
Date Posted: December 10 2008 at 08:21
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Hello Visitor13. That track was part of a concept by Korn and they devoted a lot of their music to the extreme mistreatment of children and their very anti stance in that regard - that is possibly why I enjoy Korn as I do. ------------- I'm a normal psychopath |
Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: December 10 2008 at 08:23
I kind of really like the song about the red car mentioned above.  ------------- 
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Posted By: OT Räihälä
Date Posted: December 10 2008 at 08:25
I have to admit, that I don't listen to certain bands where the lyrics are rabidly Christian.
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Posted By: Visitor13
Date Posted: December 10 2008 at 08:29
That would explain it, but I still think it wasn't a smart thing to focus on the hateful emotions of the abused (that's what it was, right?). Child abuse is a dreadful thing, but opposition against it must be both extreme and careful - this opposition just might turn into blind hatred! |
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: December 10 2008 at 08:30
Actually I always try to listen to lyrics, as long as they are in a language I grasp. and I like lyrics in songs that are not too wordy (have too much vocals,) because I value instrumental interplay as much as excellent lyrics.
But with today's groups and their all-too numerous concept albums, I find that I can't be worried of what their text are about. Usually over-complicated and lacking the spirit of Pye Hastings and Ian Anderson. Or have the profound nature of Gabriel (Genesis) Waters (Floyd) or Hammill (VdGG)
This being said, I was never a big fan of jon Anderson's gibberish.
You oughta hear Tull's Aqualung and TAAB, anti-religiouis and anti-sopcietal, yet among the most brilliant texts ever put to music ------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
Posted By: DavetheSlave
Date Posted: December 10 2008 at 08:31
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Hi rushfan4 - I knew you would - brill track!!! Hi O T - I'm not in favor of rabidly Christian music either. To my mind their is world of things to sing about other than religion, politics, racism, violence. All other than in the proper context. If you're doing an anti war track you can't very well leave violence out of it!!
------------- I'm a normal psychopath |
Posted By: DavetheSlave
Date Posted: December 10 2008 at 08:42
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Hi Visitor13. Korn's attitude was almost hatred in that regard! There I don't blame them. There's a movie called "the Girl next door" - the Ketchum one - that's worthwhile watching but very very harrowing!
Korn are a lot more complex than many here give them credit for but I refuse to go down that road again. ------------- I'm a normal psychopath |
Posted By: Rocktopus
Date Posted: December 10 2008 at 08:51
Ha-ha! That's four extremely relevant and essential things to sing about, if you ask me. All these love songs (not so much in prog) are what's worrying me. Really, I don't worry about lyrical content. I obviously wouldn't listen to a racist group, but to my knowledge that kind of crap doesn't exist in fairly advanced, intelligent music. Both satanist and christian lyrics are fine with me (occult and pagan lyrics are more than fine), although they both believe in stuff I don't. ------------- Over land and under ashes In the sunlight, see - it flashes Find a fly and eat his eye But don't believe in me Don't believe in me Don't believe in me |
Posted By: DavetheSlave
Date Posted: December 10 2008 at 09:04
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Hi Rocktopus - Rush proved that you can be very interesting and sing about Trees, Cars and many other things other than love!!! ------------- I'm a normal psychopath |
Posted By: Vompatti
Date Posted: December 10 2008 at 10:21
Both are awesome albums, but I don't consider either of them to be anti-religious. Anderson's criticism is not aimed at religion itself but people who use religion as a device to get power over others and who distort the image of God to fit their own goals. That said, I do think that the view of God on those albums is not exactly traditionally Christian (which I think is neither a good or a bad thing). |
Posted By: topofsm
Date Posted: December 10 2008 at 13:20
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I have a question. I've always wondered if Anderson is so against religion (or the way people use it to get power over others, as you said), then why does he have a christmas album?
As for me, I don't really care what the lyrics are about, unless they're REALLY good. I think that's part of why I enjoy Floyd, Tool, and Crimson so much. As for the other stuff, they could be about the worst stuff imaginable, and I'd still listen to it if the music was good. ------------- 
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Posted By: DavetheSlave
Date Posted: December 10 2008 at 13:27
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Hi Vompatti - Agreed - I have no problems with either of the two Tull albums - they question and religion is used without insulting it. Love Tull. topofsm -Anderson is against religion but he doesn't use any opportunity to bash it musically - good musician, he cares about his art. I don't care whether a musician is an atheist, a satanist or a Christian - whether he is a terrorist or a soldier - I don't need to here his views on the subject when those views are pointed. Anderson proves that you don't have to!!! ------------- I'm a normal psychopath |
Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: December 10 2008 at 13:33
I am extremely worried about lyrical content and the only solution is to listen to instrumental prog exclusively. 
------------- Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened... 
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Posted By: DavetheSlave
Date Posted: December 10 2008 at 13:39
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Hi Startibartfast - maybe that's a bit paranoid???? Rush singing about a red sports car or Trees (although that one is really about politics and Capitalism but it is not judgemental or offensive) is fine. I've no problem with the vast majority of bands out there. It's the few who want to do something like a prayer to Satan or to God musically - or who want to push their rage and the like. By the way rage is a very powerful emotion - ask any lynch mob. That's essentially what I have against the extreme metal guys - no offense intended to them. ------------- I'm a normal psychopath |
Posted By: Vompatti
Date Posted: December 10 2008 at 13:43
Who says I can't be worried about instrumental content?  |
Posted By: DavetheSlave
Date Posted: December 10 2008 at 13:46
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Hi Vompatti - I've yet to hear an instrument talk LOL.
Violent music could refer to rapids in a river - it doesn't have to mean bashing your neigbour. ------------- I'm a normal psychopath |
Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: December 10 2008 at 13:47
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Steve Vai used to make his guitar talk. -------------
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Posted By: Vompatti
Date Posted: December 10 2008 at 13:49
And King Crimson had a Talking Drum. 
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Posted By: DavetheSlave
Date Posted: December 10 2008 at 13:49
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Hah - Rushfan - you're right. Is he on Progarchives??? If not maybe I got me a new banner!!!!!! ------------- I'm a normal psychopath |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: December 10 2008 at 13:50
The lyrical content of a song is about the lyricist, not the listener. As a listener you are free to interpret a song how you wish, and to agree or disagree with the content as you see fit - I doubt anyone would take Black Widow's call to "Come, come, come to the Sabbath, Satan's here." as an excuse to dance naked around a fire.  ...  ...
------------- What? |
Posted By: DavetheSlave
Date Posted: December 10 2008 at 13:53
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Hi Dean! The point is that I want to know from said lyrricist why Satan needs to be in the track at all. Why Satan, why Christ - God Forbid an Islam prophet!!
Why can't the guy use some intelligence and sing about Mount Everist or Bald Eagles! I'll tell you why - because some sing about what's on their mind and the more they sing about it the more it's on their mind!!!! Glad I don't have some minds!!!! ------------- I'm a normal psychopath |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: December 10 2008 at 13:53
Yes, he's here - read the Biog before jumping on any band wagons - he is here because he is a Prog composer. ------------- What? |
Posted By: DavetheSlave
Date Posted: December 10 2008 at 13:55
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Did you know that the more I say a word to you the more - if you're responsive - you will come to accept that word - Psych 3. I aint accepting Satan or anything else. ------------- I'm a normal psychopath |
Posted By: Tapfret
Date Posted: December 10 2008 at 14:07
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Its all story telling, who cares? Choosing your reality by imitation of fiction is sociopathic in any context. And it certainly doesn't help to worry about what lyrics appeal to others. Feeding the hysteria is only beneficial to the sociopaths. ------------- https://www.last.fm/user/Tapfret" rel="nofollow">  https://bandcamp.com/tapfret" rel="nofollow - Bandcamp |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: December 10 2008 at 14:08
Not strictly true - more often than not the listenner becomes innured and unresponsive - repeat something enough times and people will simply ignore the message.
Personnaly I find lyrics about satan amusing - satan is a creation of the christian religions and not a religion in it's own right (you cannot believe in satan if you don't beleive in the existance of a god) - very few (if any?) Metal bands (Extreme or otherwise) preach satanism, even if they use it as subject matter (any more than they "believe" in trolls, goblins, dragons and other fantastical creatures) ------------- What? |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: December 10 2008 at 14:13
 Mansun's AN OPEN LETTER TO THE LYRICAL TRAINSPOTTER: "The lyrics aren't supposed to mean that much, They're just a vehicle for a lovely voice." ------------- What? |
Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: December 10 2008 at 14:23
In that case your only option is to listen to silence. Whatever you do, don't listen to the sound of one hand clapping.  ------------- Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Posted By: Queen By-Tor
Date Posted: December 10 2008 at 14:41
| The only lyrics that bother me are the overly christian ones |
Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: December 10 2008 at 14:44
Oh the ones that go lika this?: "God is the only God, those who praise Neil Peart will be sent to hell" |
Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: December 10 2008 at 14:47
It is getting really hot in here. -------------
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Posted By: explodingjosh
Date Posted: December 10 2008 at 14:48
I just want Dave to say hi to me.
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Posted By: Queen By-Tor
Date Posted: December 10 2008 at 14:49
- No, that's called the Suede Room |
Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: December 10 2008 at 15:09
....God forgives, but for this MORTAL SIN you'll have to burn your entire Rush collection, the same for you By-Tor! ..... ...oh no I meant this  |
Posted By: The Doctor
Date Posted: December 10 2008 at 15:17
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For me, bad lyrical content can ruin an otherwise good album. There have been a few albums I've listened to where the music was incredible, but the lyrics were horrendous. This usually leads me not to listen to the album too much, and wish that the band was instrumental, even if they have a great singer. On the other hand, if the lyrics are simply mediocre, but the music is great...I'll deal with the so-so lyrics. Of course, I don't consider lyrics about tarkuses and unifauns to be bad. The more obscure the lyrics the better and fantasy based lyrics are ok with me. What I don't like in music are cheesy, simplistic lyrics. Some preachy Christian lyrics (Neal Morse) irritate me, but some of the more subtle, spiritual Christian lyrics (TFK, Iona, etc.) I quite enjoy. ------------- I can understand your anger at me, but what did the horse I rode in on ever do to you? |
Posted By: A Person
Date Posted: December 10 2008 at 16:30
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If the lyrics are bad, then I will probably not listen to the music.I do like lyrics like Roger Waters that are satirical, but that is about as "mean" of lyrics that I listen too, unless you count the occasional Metallica bad
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Posted By: Queen By-Tor
Date Posted: December 10 2008 at 16:39
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I don't think he's talking quality, only stuff that might brainwash you and make you go postal if you hear it once
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Posted By: The Miracle
Date Posted: December 10 2008 at 16:49
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Before I turned 13 i couldn't speak English at all so almost everything I listened to I couldn't lyrically understand... Still don't really pay attention unless they're
particularly great or awful. In the second case my experience will be
spoiled a little but won't overshadow the music if it's great. Usually
I just take the voice as an instrument.
------------- http://www.last.fm/user/ocellatedgod" rel="nofollow - last.fm |
Posted By: The Doctor
Date Posted: December 10 2008 at 16:53
That'll teach me to read the original post before I go replying willy-nilly.
 ------------- I can understand your anger at me, but what did the horse I rode in on ever do to you? |
Posted By: Queen By-Tor
Date Posted: December 10 2008 at 16:55
Take that! |
Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: December 10 2008 at 16:58
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It could worry me if the lyrical content is something that I am distinctly opposed to morally, such as supporing racism or genecide for example, and its clear that the band/singer is being completely serious. Then I wont listen to a band/album because of its lyrical content, but it would have to push something I'm strongly opposed.
------------- Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005 
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Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: December 10 2008 at 17:02
| ^I agree. And generally, I think, that bands that have those lyrics don't come to my appeal of their music luckily. |
Posted By: sean
Date Posted: December 10 2008 at 17:13
| no, lyrical content doesn't bother me. if people preach their religion, that's fine for them because it's what they believe and they're free to speak their minds, even if i disagree with it. i'm not christian or anti-christian but i don't mind people that write about either subject. if somebody is pushing something i strongly disagree with, i don't buy their albums and that's my way of disagreeing. i'm not going to give my money to someone who's preaching murdering or rape but if somebody's just promoting their religion it doesn't bother me. |
Posted By: Jimbo
Date Posted: December 10 2008 at 17:24
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I agree with sleeper, I'd have a hard time listening to some "white power" band, no matter how good they were musically - luckily they tend to rule each other out. I'm also slightly irritated by religious lyrics (not to the point of refusing to listen to the stuff). If it's absolutely necessary to have such lyrics, I'd advocate Callisto's way of doing it over the likes of Neal Morse. With growled vocals, at least I won't understand them. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTO9841FT0I - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTO9841FT0I ------------- 
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Posted By: Queen By-Tor
Date Posted: December 10 2008 at 17:31
There's a line for religious lyrics. Torman Maxt was too much, Amaseffer is just enough 
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Posted By: Jimbo
Date Posted: December 10 2008 at 17:40
Definitely. As long as I don't feel I'm being preached to (trying to make me feel like a lower being), they're OK by me. -------------
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Posted By: mrcozdude
Date Posted: December 10 2008 at 18:22
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I think it's important to have lyrics like that.
Music/Art is almost the only freedom we have to to express emotions such as hate or happyness,whether people agree with or not its important.With most bands though lyrically those type of subjects are usually another point of view or to generally to annoy people.
But if the band are generally telling people to kill other people,most likely those bands are sh*t.But then again religion. does the same.
Bill Hicks - "Give me the satan worshipping family,the ones with the good albums." ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/cozfunkel/" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: topofsm
Date Posted: December 10 2008 at 18:35
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I really don't care about the lyrics, but it seems every band with christian lyrics sucks. They just don't have good music. I have yet to hear a christian band that stood out at me. Even Neal Morse was great, up to when it started singing. Then it sounded like something out of a christian modern pop-rock CD.
This is coming from a strong christian person. When I'm in a band we'll be a christian band that makes good music. -------------
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Posted By: Vompatti
Date Posted: December 10 2008 at 18:41
| Isn't U2 a Christian band with good music? |
Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: December 10 2008 at 18:46
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U2 are overrated
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Posted By: Vompatti
Date Posted: December 10 2008 at 18:51
But their early albums are underrated. |
Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: December 10 2008 at 18:53
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Posted By: mrcozdude
Date Posted: December 10 2008 at 19:39
Johnny Cash,a huge christian though walk the line doesnt touch on it. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/cozfunkel/" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: King Crimson776
Date Posted: December 10 2008 at 20:17
No, but Neal Morse is.
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Posted By: jammun
Date Posted: December 10 2008 at 21:01
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As usual, Zappa had it right all along. A band should be free to sing any lyrics, good or bad (and in my experience the good far outnumbers the bad). If you don't like the lyrics, don't listen to it. This advice should apply to Christians, Muslims, satan worshipers, lovers of '50s shlock, and everything in between. Frank usually pushed the envelope to prove his point, hence Have I Offended Someone?
I'm no fan of lyrics that promote violence, consumerism, or rabid intolerance. But they do, at least here in the U.S., have a right to exist. Our choice is to ignore them if offensive.
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Posted By: The T
Date Posted: December 11 2008 at 00:15
That's right... but you know what would be even more difficult?
To write about LOVE when you can't feel it.
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Posted By: DavetheSlave
Date Posted: December 11 2008 at 08:24
Hello explodingjosh!!!!! Happy now!! !!
You know - I am remembering Dave Mustaine's recent controversy when he refused to take Megadeth to a concert because Rotting Christ were appearing. Why on earth would someone call a band that?!!
Another thing - why are so mant Death and Black metal bands named after occult demons?
------------- I'm a normal psychopath |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: December 11 2008 at 08:36
 ------------- What? |
Posted By: DavetheSlave
Date Posted: December 11 2008 at 08:39
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Hello Dean -King Crimson aint no Demon - Opeth is!!!
Have you listened to Karmakanic's new one????? Bloody brilliant!!!! ------------- I'm a normal psychopath |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: December 11 2008 at 08:46
The band name was derived from the word "Opet", taken from the Wilbur Smith novel Sunbird, which meant "city of the moon".
The name King Crimson was coined by lyricist Peter Sinfield as a synonym for Beelzebub, prince of demons. According to Fripp, Beelzebub would be an anglicised form of the Arabic phrase "B'il Sabab", meaning "the man with an aim"
...I rest my case Your Honour. ------------- What? |
Posted By: DavetheSlave
Date Posted: December 11 2008 at 08:50
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Yep - I don't disagree but Opeth is still a major occult demon!! ------------- I'm a normal psychopath |
Posted By: DavetheSlave
Date Posted: December 11 2008 at 08:52
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Dean - you really know your stuff - what Band is currently your favorite???? ------------- I'm a normal psychopath |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: December 11 2008 at 09:21
no more than any other prog geek - however, that's going off topic and you're not going to trick me into doing that, no siree bob, off topic is definitely somewhere I ain't going, whoah boy, far be it for me to take a derail a topic by changing the subject mid stream and start talking about anything other than the subject in question, which just happens to be worrying lyrical content of songs and not whether I like Pink Floyd or have heard Karmechanic or rate the latest Témpano Pendragon or Lunatic Soul album or not - pah, you see that would be a bad thing to do and not something I should encourage or be seen to be participating in, so yes, you want real disturbing lyrics, not some silly people shouting nonsense about demons and wizzards, try Steven Wilson's Cover Version IV - deeply disturbing and very unsettling. ------------- What? |
Posted By: DavetheSlave
Date Posted: December 11 2008 at 09:23
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Hey - I like Demons and Wizards - the Uriah Heep one!!!!
Karmakanic don't mention killing someone or Christ / Satan once!!!! They are amazing and don't have to resort to anything on the borderline!! ------------- I'm a normal psychopath |
Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: December 11 2008 at 10:12
And do you? Getting back to topic. I think anyone should write about what they want. It´s obviously in you to listen to them or not. ------------- "You want me to play what, Robert?" 
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Posted By: DavetheSlave
Date Posted: December 11 2008 at 10:14
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There is so much to write lyrics about - I aint seen a symphony written about Bald Eagles yet!!!!! ------------- I'm a normal psychopath |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: December 11 2008 at 10:17
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symphonies generally don't have lyrics... ------------- What? |
Posted By: DavetheSlave
Date Posted: December 11 2008 at 10:19
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Hey Dean - you're right once again - what about a concept album about Bald Eagles!!!!! ------------- I'm a normal psychopath |
Posted By: Vompatti
Date Posted: December 11 2008 at 10:20
Sure. How else could I value any of it? |
Posted By: DavetheSlave
Date Posted: December 11 2008 at 12:51
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To me the lyrics are part of the composition!!! I want to know what a track is about before I can appreciate it fully. Imagine if Camel had not named the Snowgoose!!! What pleasure would the music then have given???
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Posted By: The T
Date Posted: December 11 2008 at 14:09
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Posted By: The T
Date Posted: December 11 2008 at 14:12
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Posted By: Queen By-Tor
Date Posted: December 11 2008 at 14:13
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Questioning lyrics are the best kind. Faithless and Ghost Of A Chance are two of my favorite Rush tunes |
Posted By: DavetheSlave
Date Posted: December 11 2008 at 14:22
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Hi- the T - I was involved very heavily in the Occult for a while and that was musically inspired - to emulate a then favorite band of mine.!!!! I saw personally, the harm that that can do!!!! I say leave all of that out of music - unless a Band has something along those lines to say - which would personally scare me!
Lucifer was the Angel in Heaven in charge of music and the arts!!!! Satan aint some ugly red skinned beast with a forked tail - he was the Angel of beauty.... Scary aint it.. ------------- I'm a normal psychopath |
Posted By: Queen By-Tor
Date Posted: December 11 2008 at 14:25
| Not everyone copy the bands they like. NORMAL people don't. Maybe you just like to follow the trends a bit more than others. I was heavy into Marilyn Manson but I'm not a satanist |
Posted By: Queen By-Tor
Date Posted: December 11 2008 at 14:25
not really when you don't believe in heaven or hell |
Posted By: DavetheSlave
Date Posted: December 11 2008 at 14:28
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You know- I would hate to believe that when I die that's it. I had some very personal experiences which proved to me that you don't die. Death is a figment of imagination and I know that - it's a rebirth. ------------- I'm a normal psychopath |
Posted By: Queen By-Tor
Date Posted: December 11 2008 at 14:29
| lets not turn this into a religious argument. Especially with the recent loss of one of our finest reviewers. You can continue this discussion on your own. |
Posted By: DavetheSlave
Date Posted: December 11 2008 at 14:38
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Religion isn't the sole point of the thread - lyrical content is!!!! Again why can't some artists leave some things alone. There are infinate things out there to sing about. I never heard the old prog bands enter the same territory lyric wise as some "new" artists insist on treading!!!! ------------- I'm a normal psychopath |
Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: December 11 2008 at 14:41
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Baby Snakes
------------- Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Posted By: Tapfret
Date Posted: December 11 2008 at 14:48
Your involvement was your choice, PERIOD. It had nothing to do with the music. Like I said before, its story telling. You were no more bound to become involved in the occult because of a bands lyrics than you are to have a sex change after watching the movie Transamerica or become a gangster after watching Goodfellas . The only thing scary is how many people don't take responsibility for their own choices and want to blame art for influencing them. ------------- https://www.last.fm/user/Tapfret" rel="nofollow"> https://bandcamp.com/tapfret" rel="nofollow - Bandcamp |
Posted By: mrcozdude
Date Posted: December 11 2008 at 14:52
What he said!
i completely agree with that. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/cozfunkel/" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: DavetheSlave
Date Posted: December 11 2008 at 14:52
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Hi Tapfret - you really have NO IDEA!!!!!! Teenagers have very little choice in fact and in this field I will overide your thinking! I'll play you some lyrics that will make your hait curl - if they don't then BE WORRIED!!!! because you need to be. You got kids??? ------------- I'm a normal psychopath |
Posted By: Queen By-Tor
Date Posted: December 11 2008 at 14:54
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Oh. My. God. You are an idiot. pardon my French, but anyone who is stupid enough to be "brainwashed" by evil bands deserves what's coming to them. |
Posted By: Tapfret
Date Posted: December 11 2008 at 15:01
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I'm pretty much done here. Hail Satan!  ------------- https://www.last.fm/user/Tapfret" rel="nofollow"> https://bandcamp.com/tapfret" rel="nofollow - Bandcamp |
Posted By: DavetheSlave
Date Posted: December 11 2008 at 15:01
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King By Tor - you called them Evil Bands - I wonder why!!!!! ------------- I'm a normal psychopath |
Posted By: Queen By-Tor
Date Posted: December 11 2008 at 15:03
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"evil", like, I'm sarcastic. Man, youre just like my grandmother to tried to exorcise me when I was 15 |
Posted By: DavetheSlave
Date Posted: December 11 2008 at 15:05
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Maybe she should have!!! ------------- I'm a normal psychopath |
Posted By: Queen By-Tor
Date Posted: December 11 2008 at 15:06
| She did. And guess what, it did nothing - you know why? Because either god doesn't care enough or there is no force that expels demons from kids with a rebellious streak. |