Does lyrical content worry you?

King By-Tor wrote: Not everyone copy the bands they like. NORMAL people don't. Maybe you just like to follow the trends a bit more than others. I was heavy into Marilyn Manson but I'm not a satanist

Satan and stuff is sometimes not be taken literally as the red-horned-guy that burn people in a flamming inferno.... Sometimes it's just an expression of oppositionn againts some things or just an expression of other ideas... In the end, if you don't believe there is a God, it's quite stupid to believe there is a Devil... because if you believe there is a Devil, then in turn he becomes a God and your whole "I don't believe in god" turns very stupid...

The T wrote: Vompatti wrote: I fully agree with slaver here. Good lyrics (i.e. the kind that don't ruin the music but add something to it) are always intelligent and insightful at least on some level, and I can't really imagine anti-religious Why? so anything that goes against religion is bad? So we all have to bow down to the fairy-tale beliefs of the majority? Of course we don't have to - and there's no reason why we ever should - bow down to something we don't personally acknowledge. What I'm against is bashing someone's beliefs instead of recognizing their value to the person who beliefs in them and maybe even trying to understand them and the principles they are based on. The same goes for Christian people who judge atheists as immoral or simply as being in the wrong without paying any attention to their views other than that they don't believe in God. or senselessly violent lyrics here I may agree more... being anything but stupid and embarrassing. Of course it's ytour opinion. To me such lyrics imply that the band and especially the lyric-writer don't really have anything constructive to say and that they seemingly have no idea what music and art in general should be about. Which I guess you know. For YOUR vision. I'm sure there are hundreds of different views about the meaning and function of art and I'm not saying that my views are the only right ones, but I think we all agree that art should at least have some kind of a substance, and maybe even a message.In my opinion "art" that only aims at annoying people rarely has any value at all.

Edited by Vompatti - December 11 2008 at 15:26

Tapfret wrote: I'm pretty much done here. Hail Satan!

What is that anyway, Satan's weenie?

Hi Startibartfast - you obviously have a problem with the subject!!!!

Hi Chris H - this thread has always been about lyrical content!!! New subject?? I aint with you?

Pardon, I'm a Japanese so every English word I can get easily...

Hahahahaha I can't do more that laugh at some of the last topics in there. Just give me some comus-like lyrics and I'm ready to rape and kill the first young lady in my way. After that, I'm going directly to heaven, I know it

anti-religious stuff in lyrics does not worry me per se. let us not forget that in the name of religions millions pf people have been tortured and killed. why should one not write a song against those practices?
that does, however, not mean I will tolerate ANY kind of anti-religious lyrics. but would you, for example, call the lyrics of Matching Mole's "God Song" anti-religious? if they are, then I am all for this kind of anti-religious lyrics

DavetheSlave wrote: Hi- the T - I was involved very heavily in the Occult for a while and that was musically inspired - to emulate a then favorite band of mine.!!!! I saw personally, the harm that that can do!!!! I say leave all of that out of music - unless a Band has something along those lines to say - which would personally scare me! Lucifer was the Angel in Heaven in charge of music and the arts!!!! Satan aint some ugly red skinned beast with a forked tail - he was the Angel of beauty.... Scary aint it..

the occult does not necessarily deal with the devil or demons; only some occult groups do, but by no means all..anyway, in one of your comments you said that the old bands never had this kind of lyrics. well, you couldn't be any more wrong. the lyrics of "Dem Guten, Schönen, Wahren" from "Phallus Dei", the first album of Amon Düül 2, are not anti-religious, but nevertheless they are quite drastic indeed (the song is about a child molester and killer and switches perspective between him and the angry masses. and what the child molester says is quite drastic indeed, though perhaps the bands you refer to would be more explicit (blood shed and the likes). I, however, think that the song of Amon Düül 2 is much more perfidious, because they let YOU create the images inside the head (there is no actual blood shed in the lyrics at all).
and here a short excerpt from the song (the killer's perspective)

"Wir tanzten zusammen Ringelreih'n
und sangen ein wunderschönes Lied.
Die Kleinste fing an, nach der Mutter zu schrei'n.
Ich durchbohrte sie sanft mit meinem Glied".

translation:
"We danced ring-around-the-rosy together
and sang a beautiful song.
The smallest started crying for her mother
I softly penetrated her with my member".

as I said, no actual blood shed, but much more perfidious (especially the way the part of the killer is sung, in a kind of ecstasy)