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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 23 2004 at 15:09
Originally posted by threefates threefates wrote:

And thats my last statement on it!

Hi Emidar.. honey

Mr. Islam being pulled off the plane doesn't really have anything to do with the war in Iraq or Mr. Bush's or Mr. Blair's methods... it has to do with homeland security... and that I'm behind.  I'm not sure about what good the war in Iraq has done or not done... I'm sure that will always be a center of debate for years to come.. and both sides will claim some sort of victory... Thats just the way that works.

I also disagree with you about their motives being born from deeply held theological beliefs.  Like every other war, they continue to use that as an excuse and it might of started that way many years ago... but that is not what it is about today.  I know many muslim clerics here in NYC.. actually I've worked with the head of the Muslim community here in NYC, Imam Al-Hajj Talib W. 'Abdur-Rashid' and we've had many discussions in regard to how non-religious these terrorist groups really are.

Its not much different than the hatred instilled in the young brought up in Northern Ireland.  Its what your bred to think, not whats really truth any longer. I spent quite a lot of time with Muslim families in Malaysia.  You should of heard what they've been led to believe about Americans.  Of course, by the time I left, they probably had a whole different idea of Americans...

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Spoken like a true woman TreeFights.

And thats my last statement on it!




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 23 2004 at 15:11
And this is another last statement on it!TongueWink



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 23 2004 at 15:28
Originally posted by Reed Lover Reed Lover wrote:

Spoken like a true woman TreeFights.

How would you know?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 23 2004 at 15:41
Originally posted by threefates threefates wrote:

Originally posted by Reed Lover Reed Lover wrote:

Spoken like a true woman TreeFights.

How would you know?

Arent you confusing me with someone else around here, you naughty girl..............Cry




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 23 2004 at 15:46
Originally posted by Reed Lover Reed Lover wrote:

Originally posted by threefates threefates wrote:

Originally posted by Reed Lover Reed Lover wrote:

Spoken like a true woman TreeFights.

How would you know?

Arent you confusing me with someone else around here, you naughty girl..............Cry

I have a 16 yr old daughter from a 3 yr relationship with a woman when I was 19-22 yrs of age so I am not totally ignorant on the ways of women thank-you

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 23 2004 at 15:48
Originally posted by gdub411 gdub411 wrote:

Originally posted by Reed Lover Reed Lover wrote:

Originally posted by threefates threefates wrote:

Originally posted by Reed Lover Reed Lover wrote:

Spoken like a true woman TreeFights.

How would you know?

Arent you confusing me with someone else around here, you naughty girl..............Cry

I have a 16 yr old daughter from a 3 yr relationship with a woman when I was 19-22 yrs of age so I am not totally ignorant on the ways of women thank-you

No, I was on about that other guy honest!




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 23 2004 at 19:48

Come on, folks...the heading is "Discussions not related to music", after all. Not "Discussions not related to music except anything that might arouse strong feelings". If you don't want to be over-stimulated, avoid reading topic threads that are likely to cause such a reaction. It's that simple- just change the channel if you don't like this show...'cause I'm about to rant.

I'm willing to bet that few people read my first post in this topic without thinking of 9/11...for the record, the ex-Cat Stevens has been on the sh*t list for over a decade now. No government, agency, or private residence should be criticized for denying entrance on the basis of previous violent statements.

How about this: you see someone in the street shouting incoherent violent slogans. They come to your door. You don't let them in. The rest of the neighborhood calls you names. Sound fair? Sound civilized?

How about you oh-so-fashionable anti-american folks make a reasonable point for once- maybe even cite a specific instance or fact? There's plenty in the US Government to criticize, especially in foriegn policy; instead you offer generalizations that a junior high debating tem would have little problem tearing to shreds.

For all his shortcomings we need people like Mr. Moore because traditional within-the-system opposition is about as helpful as sending a letter to your congressman. He's just the latest in the long line of muckrakers that are significantly historically responsible for improving our civil rights. Speaking of which, Phil Ochs was a folk singer- Cat Stevens was just another guy with an acoustic guitar. Now he's not even that much.

But despite the fact that most of you come from countries with escalating violence against immigrants and minorities, you find some sort of moral upper hand to attack Americans. Good trick! Why don't you bring the National Front round for tea sometime and tell me again how denying entrance to an ADMITTED FANATIC SUPPORTER OF MURDER is indicative of a failure of American judgement.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 24 2004 at 04:12
I'm with you,James.I can't understand why anyone in their right mind could object to the treatment of Mr.Islam in this case. He's been an agitator of the most violent and bigotted form of Islam now for more than a decade. Of course someone like that will be seen as a security risk in times like these! Personally,I think he should be denied access to any civilized country simply because of his support of the insane fatwa against Salman Rushdie. That was so obnoxious I don't think he should ever be allowed to live it down! A person who seriously wants to kill somone just because that someone has written a book he doesn't agree with has relinquished his right to call himself a civilized being and should be treated with nothing but the utter contempt he deserves!.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 24 2004 at 05:18
Cat f**king Muslim  How stupid can you get, first you turn religious and then you grow a beard and worship ALLLLLLLLLLLLAAAAAHHHHH  Keep him out of the US, keep him out of the world !!!!!!!!!!!! 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 24 2004 at 05:28
Gee,Mr.Clown,why don't you tell us what you really think?.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 24 2004 at 06:14

Well we know where we all stand with Cat Stevens but are Marillion a threat to world peace?

I've heard 'Holidays In Eden' and I believe that there is a case for incarceration

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 24 2004 at 06:44

Well in that case you have to lock me up along with them because I think "Holidays In Eden" is quite an excellent album.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 24 2004 at 09:29

 

                                     here we go again!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 24 2004 at 10:52

Threefates:

Sorry if I offended you.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 24 2004 at 11:27
Thank you, Blacksword!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 24 2004 at 13:05
I'm being chased by a Moon Grendel,Moon Grendel, Moon Grendel
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 24 2004 at 13:28

Originally posted by gdub411 gdub411 wrote:

I'm being chased by a Moon Grendel,Moon Grendel, Moon Grendel

Have you been on the Magic Mushrooms or am I missing something here?




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 24 2004 at 13:56
Originally posted by Reed Lover Reed Lover wrote:

Originally posted by gdub411 gdub411 wrote:

I'm being chased by a Moon Grendel,Moon Grendel, Moon Grendel

Have you been on the Magic Mushrooms or am I missing something here?

Moon Shadow is a cat Stevens tune and Grendel is of course Marillion..I cleverly() combined the two with my powerful wit

I actually like Cat Steven's music alot

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 24 2004 at 22:35
Actually so do I.  Morning Has Broken will always be a favorite of mine.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 25 2004 at 06:20
I was a big fan of Mr.Stevens when I was a nipper in the 70's. All the more sad when he went insane.
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