PA's Battle to Stardom A16: Gentle Giant v. Camel |
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MovingPictures07
Prog Reviewer Joined: January 09 2008 Location: Beasty Heart Status: Offline Points: 32181 |
Topic: PA's Battle to Stardom A16: Gentle Giant v. Camel Posted: October 14 2008 at 14:49 |
Wow, here we are at the last match of round 1 already!
I've been looking forward to this one ever since the beginning of the tournament. In one corner... please give your round of applause for one of the most accomplished and paradigmatic progressive rock bands, master multi-instrumentalists, and some of the most talented musicians in the larger part of the 1970s prog movement, Gentle Giant! In the other corner... a Symphonic progger's absolute dream, a lesser-known underdog who managed to absolutely awe the audience back in January by consecutively defeating Magma, ELP, and even giving Genesis quite a fight until the end... let me give you, Camel! Who will win? Give your support to decide! Please: If you are not familiar with one or both of the band's material, I urge that you use the links provided and at least listen to the samples on their respective pages (or Youtube if the particular band has no online streaming). Gentle Giant's PA page: http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=118 Camel's PA page: http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=50 As always, discussions are encouraged. Recap: Round 1 A1: A2: A3: Emerson, Lake and Palmer v. A4: A5: Can v. A6: A7: Van der Graaf Generator v. A8: Samla Mammas Manna v. A9: Rush v. A10: A11: Henry Cow v. A12: A13: A14: A15: A1: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=51423&PN=2 A2: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=51492&PN=1 A3: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=51567&PN=1 A4: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=51630&PN=1 A5: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=51711&PN=1 A6: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=51778 A7: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=51855 A8: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=51928&PN=1 A9: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=52011 A10: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=52091 A11: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=52158&PN=1 A12: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=52246 A13: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=52336 A14: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=52411&PN=1 A15: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=52487&PN=1 |
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Padraic
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: February 16 2006 Location: Pennsylvania Status: Offline Points: 31169 |
Posted: October 14 2008 at 14:51 |
Easy one for me this time. Camel has some good records, but GG has such a string of incredible albums that I enjoy so much more. Gentle Giant!
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Epignosis
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: December 30 2007 Location: Raeford, NC Status: Offline Points: 32541 |
Posted: October 14 2008 at 15:00 |
By the looks of my "Green vs. Latimer" poll from a while back, Camel should pull this one out easy. But as of right now, there's three votes for Gentle Giant and none for Camel. I must confess I am perplexed.
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laplace
Prog Reviewer Joined: October 06 2005 Location: popupControl(); Status: Offline Points: 7606 |
Posted: October 14 2008 at 15:10 |
ha I didn't see the UZ vs. Koenji poll but it came out fine. unless Geck0 voted for UZ in which case it came out wrong ;P
clicked on Gentle Giant because Acquiring, Three Friends and Power & Glory are all five billion star albums whereas Camel's music is dull and sedate |
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Padraic
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: February 16 2006 Location: Pennsylvania Status: Offline Points: 31169 |
Posted: October 14 2008 at 15:12 |
you can really put a smile on my face. |
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MovingPictures07
Prog Reviewer Joined: January 09 2008 Location: Beasty Heart Status: Offline Points: 32181 |
Posted: October 14 2008 at 15:21 |
That's because Latimer pretty much, for most people, is the heart and soul of Camel and has carried them throughout their entire period. Plus, that was purely based on both members only as guitarists. Green is fantastic (and I did vote for him, by the way ), but Gentle Giant doesn't nearly have as much focus on one individual. Given the fact that people now have to compare the entire band and the actual output of both bands, it should be targeting completely different aspects. Anything could happen though, I predict. |
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Jozef
Forum Senior Member Joined: June 17 2008 Location: Pennsylvania Status: Offline Points: 2204 |
Posted: October 14 2008 at 15:26 |
This was hard but I'm going to go with Camel.
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Magic Mountain
Forum Senior Member Joined: March 21 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 163 |
Posted: October 14 2008 at 15:35 |
I liked both bands very much. Camel has more albums that I like than GG. Thus I vote for Camel.
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memowakeman
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: May 19 2005 Location: Mexico City Status: Offline Points: 13032 |
Posted: October 14 2008 at 15:36 |
Lovely bands, but i'm going with Camel this time!
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Abstrakt
Forum Senior Member Joined: August 18 2005 Location: Soundgarden Status: Offline Points: 18292 |
Posted: October 14 2008 at 15:41 |
Both great bands, but i prefer Camel.
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topofsm
Forum Senior Member Joined: August 17 2008 Location: Arizona, USA Status: Offline Points: 1698 |
Posted: October 14 2008 at 15:46 |
I've found both more than a bit interesting, but Camel tends to land in the "just prog" category for me, while Gentle Giant always sounds unique, even when you compare it to most prog. But that's just my opinion.
I voted GG.
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Queen By-Tor
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: September 13 2006 Location: Xanadu Status: Offline Points: 16111 |
Posted: October 14 2008 at 15:48 |
Camel scratches my itch more often than not it seems. While GG
certainly have some efforts that have knocked me on my ass it seems
that Camel does it more often.
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Logan
Forum & Site Admin Group Site Admin Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Vancouver, BC Status: Offline Points: 36552 |
Posted: October 14 2008 at 15:57 |
This is incredibly easy for me; I find Gentle Giant far more interesting. I was once an uberfan of the band, though my passion rather wore off. I consider the first eight studio albums excellent and the last three very poor, and Playing the Fool is a terrific live album. I like Camel considerably, particularly The Snow Goose, in fact, I love that album, and A Live Record, but I don't put Camel in the same league as Gentle Giant (well, I actually think Camel's '77 and up studio output much better than GG's, but then what isn't? ).
Still I have a desire to play "Nimrodel..." now. I do like Mirage considerably, as well as Moonmadness. The debut is quite good, as is Nude. So it is a band I like, and used to listen to a lot, but didn't have the punch, adventurous attitude, contrasts. and twists of GG. Camel plays it safer delivering more accessible melodic tunes (when GG tried to turn more accessible/ commercial, it was disastrous. Camel is better at that). Camel rarely reaches the same heights for me. I joined this site, to a considerable extent, after lurking for ages, because I wished to share my passion for GG. Incidentally, Camel lost to Magma when I put its most popular live album against Magma's most popular live album (Live/Hhai vs. A Live Record). |
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TGM: Orb
Prog Reviewer Joined: October 21 2007 Location: n/a Status: Offline Points: 8052 |
Posted: October 14 2008 at 16:01 |
Mirage is a fantastic album, and the only possible reason I could vote Camel.
Erk.. Giant for the consistency, methinks. |
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Rocktopus
Forum Senior Member Joined: March 02 2006 Location: Norway Status: Offline Points: 4202 |
Posted: October 14 2008 at 16:09 |
Gentle Giant with eight great albums and a live one 70-77, is pretty hard to beat. I like early Camel a whole lot, though.
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ClassicRocker
Forum Senior Member Joined: March 02 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 894 |
Posted: October 14 2008 at 16:12 |
Take that Camel! ELP is avenged (currently 12-5)!
Edited by ClassicRocker - October 14 2008 at 16:12 |
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Avantgardehead
Forum Senior Member Joined: December 29 2006 Location: Dublin, OH, USA Status: Offline Points: 1170 |
Posted: October 14 2008 at 16:13 |
I'm really tired of Camel winning all of these little polls and contests, but glad to see the better band winning here!
Camel is nice... I guess... but Gentle Giant is light-years ahead. |
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Padraic
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: February 16 2006 Location: Pennsylvania Status: Offline Points: 31169 |
Posted: October 14 2008 at 16:16 |
I guess that's just the sentiment for me as well. I enjoy Camel alright, don't dislike them or anything, but to me GG has such an incredible catalog, such a consistently excellent output. |
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Zargus
Forum Senior Member Joined: May 08 2005 Location: Sweden Status: Offline Points: 3491 |
Posted: October 14 2008 at 16:25 |
well like other have said, i Iike camel its a nice band, but they are not on the same level as GG.
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topofsm
Forum Senior Member Joined: August 17 2008 Location: Arizona, USA Status: Offline Points: 1698 |
Posted: October 14 2008 at 16:28 |
Psst, where can we make predictions on how we think the polls are going to go? Akin to how college basketball teams are bet on during the playoffs. Or am I the only one who thinks this would be fun?
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