PA's Battle to Stardom A12: Soft Machine v. Magma |
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MovingPictures07
Prog Reviewer Joined: January 09 2008 Location: Beasty Heart Status: Offline Points: 32181 |
Topic: PA's Battle to Stardom A12: Soft Machine v. Magma Posted: October 02 2008 at 12:12 |
One of the two founding Canterbury bands who later heavily explored the
realms of jazz, the other the creator of Zeuhl. Both were very
important in their heydays and both pioneered new sounds in the early
1970s that have influenced many groups to follow. Which is your
favorite and why?
Please: If you are not familiar with one or both of the band's material, I urge that you use the links provided and at least listen to the samples on their respective pages. Soft Machine's PA page: http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=633 Magma's PA page: http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=646 As always, discussions are encouraged. Recap: Round 1 A1: A2: A3: Emerson, Lake and Palmer v. A4: A5: Can v. A6: A7: Van der Graaf Generator v. A8: Samla Mammas Manna v. A9: Rush v. A10: A11: Henry Cow v. A1: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=51423&PN=2 A2: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=51492&PN=1 A3: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=51567&PN=1 A4: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=51630&PN=1 A5: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=51711&PN=1 A6: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=51778 A7: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=51855 A8: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=51928&PN=1 A9: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=52011 A10: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=52091 A11: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=52158&PN=1 Edited by MovingPictures07 - October 02 2008 at 12:13 |
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Bern
Forum Senior Member VIP Member Joined: September 22 2005 Location: Québec Status: Offline Points: 11746 |
Posted: October 02 2008 at 12:13 |
Toughest one yet for me...
If I really really really really had to choose, I'd pick Soft Machine... |
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RIP in bossa nova heaven. |
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Petrovsk Mizinski
Prog Reviewer Joined: December 24 2007 Location: Ukraine Status: Offline Points: 25210 |
Posted: October 02 2008 at 12:16 |
I like what I've heard of Magma... but the good stuff from Soft Machine I absolutely love.
Soft Machine it is. |
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Bj-1
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: June 04 2005 Location: No(r)Way Status: Offline Points: 31433 |
Posted: October 02 2008 at 12:20 |
I love both bands, so I can't really decide on this one..
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RIO/AVANT/ZEUHL - The best thing you can get with yer pants on!
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Alberto Muñoz
Forum Senior Member Joined: July 26 2006 Location: Mexico Status: Offline Points: 3577 |
Posted: October 02 2008 at 12:25 |
Soft Machine in this time
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Logan
Forum & Site Admin Group Site Admin Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Vancouver, BC Status: Online Points: 36045 |
Posted: October 02 2008 at 12:26 |
Argh... Another poll for choosing between my favourites. This a great contest for a contest of greats. Two of my favourite bands, and I'd say the two most important of their categories (two of my favourite categories at that). If push came to shove, I would choose Magma because Magma has more material that I frequently listen to, but.... I really love both. I'll let others duke it out on this one at this time. Soft Machine and Magma are de hundin.
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TGM: Orb
Prog Reviewer Joined: October 21 2007 Location: n/a Status: Offline Points: 8052 |
Posted: October 02 2008 at 12:52 |
Both exceptional. Gave the vote to Magma, since the darkness and female vocals on MDK hit me very hard.
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Padraic
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: February 16 2006 Location: Pennsylvania Status: Offline Points: 31169 |
Posted: October 02 2008 at 12:59 |
I really enjoy Soft Machine (Third is a 5+ star album) but I'm becoming very addicted to Magma; they've become such a special band for me. Magma gets the vote here, and I thought it would be a tougher call but actually Magma's a clear favorite for me. Magma v. National Health, for example, would really be a toss-up, couldn't choose there.
Edited by NaturalScience - October 02 2008 at 13:00 |
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horsewithteeth11
Prog Reviewer Joined: January 09 2008 Location: Kentucky Status: Offline Points: 24598 |
Posted: October 02 2008 at 15:55 |
Magma, easily. The 3rd greatest band of all time. Hopefully the power of MDK sweeps Third from under it's ass.
*Runs from febus* Third is still fantastic and easily a 5 star album though. Edited by birdwithteeth11 - October 02 2008 at 15:55 |
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jimidom
Forum Senior Member Joined: August 02 2007 Location: Houston, TX USA Status: Offline Points: 570 |
Posted: October 02 2008 at 17:51 |
I have a soft spot for Soft Machine, but I really dig Magma as well, especially 1001 Centigrades and MDK. Both bands have some of the most interesting sounds I have ever heard, refreshing alternatives to the "usual" (i.e. Pink Floyd, ELP, Yes, Genesis, etc.). However, Soft Machine's almost seamless musical evolution from psychedelia to jazz gives them the slightest of edges. |
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"The music business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free, and good men die like dogs. There's also a negative side." - HST
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febus
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator / In Memoriam Joined: January 23 2007 Location: Orlando-Usa Status: Offline Points: 4312 |
Posted: October 02 2008 at 18:38 |
Ouch!!! two of my favorites pitting against each other...............Only Alex07 could do something as machiavelic like that......why??but why does he do things like that??
So let see! what do we have here......Robert Wyatt/J.Marshall on one side, Christian Vander on the other
K.Ayers/ Hugh Hopper here, J.Top/Paganotti there
Mike Ratledge with Soft..............oh! who plays keys for Magma??
and you have to add the exceptional Karl Jenkins in later Soft period
Volume 2 versus 1001 centigrades...easy choice
Soft Machine 1 versus Kobaia...oh easy again
THIRD and MDK ??? the choc of the titans...............oh! Moon in June makes the difference.
Kohntakosaz beats Fouth and Fifth
But Sixth, seven, Bundles and the great Softs over Attack, udu wudu or merci!
So Soft Machine will win because of more variety in their music..what a surprise!! Edited by febus - October 02 2008 at 20:14 |
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febus
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator / In Memoriam Joined: January 23 2007 Location: Orlando-Usa Status: Offline Points: 4312 |
Posted: October 02 2008 at 19:48 |
Yes, David, you better run fast.............have you noticed how mean i look on my avatar
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tszirmay
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: August 17 2006 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 6673 |
Posted: October 02 2008 at 19:57 |
Finally, febus showing his Errol Flynn imitation! Probably the funniest poll ever because of so many Soft vs Lava extremists . Hey, what happens if ya like both? Look at my avatar, I love both!
Edited by tszirmay - October 02 2008 at 19:58 |
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I never post anything anywhere without doing more than basic research, often in depth.
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AlexUC
Forum Senior Member Joined: June 06 2007 Location: Noveria Status: Offline Points: 392 |
Posted: October 02 2008 at 21:02 |
Oh god, really hard, but right now I'm writing my kobain memories sorry SM!!
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This is not my beautiful house...
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memowakeman
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: May 19 2005 Location: Mexico City Status: Offline Points: 13032 |
Posted: October 02 2008 at 22:52 |
damn..this is the toughest of them all, im not voting....no im not
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Moatilliatta
Prog Reviewer Joined: December 01 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3083 |
Posted: October 02 2008 at 23:06 |
I love Third, but I love MDK even more. Plus, Magma is more fun and has released more top-notch albums, to me at least.
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horsewithteeth11
Prog Reviewer Joined: January 09 2008 Location: Kentucky Status: Offline Points: 24598 |
Posted: October 02 2008 at 23:56 |
Yay! Magma and SM are tied now! C'mon Magma fans, overwhelm these Canterbury masters with your repeated cries of "MMMMMMM THEUSZ HAMTAAHK MMMMMMM THEUSZ HAMTAAHK" and much-needed votes.
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Rocktopus
Forum Senior Member Joined: March 02 2006 Location: Norway Status: Offline Points: 4202 |
Posted: October 03 2008 at 03:41 |
Even harder than Area vs Gong. I think I'll pass.
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Over land and under ashes
In the sunlight, see - it flashes Find a fly and eat his eye But don't believe in me Don't believe in me Don't believe in me |
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MovingPictures07
Prog Reviewer Joined: January 09 2008 Location: Beasty Heart Status: Offline Points: 32181 |
Posted: October 03 2008 at 15:58 |
15-15 still!
Come on, Magma fans! |
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febus
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator / In Memoriam Joined: January 23 2007 Location: Orlando-Usa Status: Offline Points: 4312 |
Posted: October 03 2008 at 16:10 |
You are supposed to be the arbitrator, Alex, the impartial referree, the wise man above the crowd
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