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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 04 2008 at 13:48
There aren't 60 more good starting pitchers out there, though.  Most staffs don't even have FIVE good starters.  

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 04 2008 at 14:29
Originally posted by rileydog22 rileydog22 wrote:

There aren't 60 more good starting pitchers out there, though.  Most staffs don't even have FIVE good starters.  


Define good. If you go by 1967 standards there wasn't 60 good starters in all of baseball on 20 teams. How can you have 60 good starters on 32 teams?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 04 2008 at 23:17
Good as in "good enough that I'd add them to my roster over a couple of utility guys or extra relievers if I had two addition roster spots."  

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 05 2008 at 01:21
DODGERS!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 06 2008 at 14:40
Originally posted by rileydog22 rileydog22 wrote:

DODGERS!


It is amazing that one man can really make a difference on a team. I don't think that they would be where they are without Ramirez.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 06 2008 at 14:46
Originally posted by crimhead crimhead wrote:

Originally posted by rileydog22 rileydog22 wrote:

The best-of-five divisional system is not a functional playoff method.  They play 162 games to figure out who's worthy of a playoff spot, and they need every last one of them--and sometimes one more.  And then they let it come down to three games to decide who moves on after that.  C'mon, anybody can beat anybody three times.  They really aught to at least expand that series to seven games.  Sure, it'll make the playoffs three days longer, but I don't see why MLB doesn't want to cash in on a couple extra playoff games.  


The baseball season is long enough as it is. We would be going almost into November with anymore added games. Baseball should be over in the first weekend of October. These games shouldn't be played when it's cold or snowing. It's not fair to the fans or the players. What they need to do is play more double headers during the season and expand the rosters to 27 players. If they finished the season in the early part of September then they could play best of seven series' all the way through to the World Series.


Just shrink the regular season and let all playoff series be (best of) 7 games


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 06 2008 at 15:55
Originally posted by crimhead crimhead wrote:

Originally posted by rileydog22 rileydog22 wrote:

DODGERS!


It is amazing that one man can really make a difference on a team. I don't think that they would be where they are without Ramirez.


I'm not entirely sure.  Fangraphs has him as worth about 3.5 wins since arriving in LA, and I don't think it's unfair to say that Juan Pierre would have been worth at least 1.5 wins (less than half of Manny) during the same stretch.  It's close, though. 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 06 2008 at 19:15
Originally posted by rileydog22 rileydog22 wrote:

Originally posted by crimhead crimhead wrote:

Originally posted by rileydog22 rileydog22 wrote:

DODGERS!


It is amazing that one man can really make a difference on a team. I don't think that they would be where they are without Ramirez.


I'm not entirely sure.  Fangraphs has him as worth about 3.5 wins since arriving in LA, and I don't think it's unfair to say that Juan Pierre would have been worth at least 1.5 wins (less than half of Manny) during the same stretch.  It's close, though. 
 
What Manny brought to the team cannot be measured like that.  This team was flat and unfocused. Manny and Casey Blake brought the kind of leadership the youngsters needed.  One to teach them ho to have fun and the other how do it professionaly without complaint. You can tell by the way Loney, Martin and Either are going so deep into counts to get good pitches. These guys were so tight Carl Palmer could have had a great drum solo on them.  In the beginning of the year those guys would not have performed like this. No matter what happens against the Phils this team chemisty is already changed. 
 
One interesting fact was the lineup used in the series against the Cubs had not played together this year.  That is how different the team is now.  The other thing is that Torre has sold Nomar, Kent and Pierre that coming off the bench is best for the team without complaint.  I think this maybe one of his best managing jobs.  I am pretty sure he has a chip on his shoulder. LOL
 
 
 
 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 06 2008 at 20:22
Originally posted by Garion81 Garion81 wrote:

Originally posted by rileydog22 rileydog22 wrote:

Originally posted by crimhead crimhead wrote:

Originally posted by rileydog22 rileydog22 wrote:

DODGERS!


It is amazing that one man can really make a difference on a team. I don't think that they would be where they are without Ramirez.


I'm not entirely sure.  Fangraphs has him as worth about 3.5 wins since arriving in LA, and I don't think it's unfair to say that Juan Pierre would have been worth at least 1.5 wins (less than half of Manny) during the same stretch.  It's close, though. 
 
What Manny brought to the team cannot be measured like that.  This team was flat and unfocused. Manny and Casey Blake brought the kind of leadership the youngsters needed.  One to teach them ho to have fun and the other how do it professionaly without complaint. You can tell by the way Loney, Martin and Either are going so deep into counts to get good pitches. These guys were so tight Carl Palmer could have had a great drum solo on them.  In the beginning of the year those guys would not have performed like this. No matter what happens against the Phils this team chemisty is already changed. 
 
One interesting fact was the lineup used in the series against the Cubs had not played together this year.  That is how different the team is now.  The other thing is that Torre has sold Nomar, Kent and Pierre that coming off the bench is best for the team without complaint.  I think this maybe one of his best managing jobs.  I am pretty sure he has a chip on his shoulder. LOL
 
 
 
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 10 2008 at 15:32
Hopefully Myers can have a strong outing, would be very nice to be up 2-0 heading out to LA

really great game last night (for all but Dodger fans I suppose)


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 10 2008 at 16:20
My man Chad isn't gonna go down easily.

Or at all. 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 10 2008 at 16:44
unfortunately I missed last nights game and will miss tonight's too due to Calprog.  Hope to see Sundays and I hope the Dodgers bounce back and pick up game two.  Pretty even game by two great teams from what I read though in game 1.  Lets hope for a dynamite series.
 
 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 10 2008 at 18:00
Crap.  

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 10 2008 at 22:03
Originally posted by rileydog22 rileydog22 wrote:

My man Chad isn't gonna go down easily.

Or at all. 


You were saying?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 10 2008 at 22:49
f**king brett myers.  

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 11 2008 at 03:03
Boston up 1-0 and Philly is 2-0....I was hoping that the Rays were going to give Boston a better fight.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 12 2008 at 14:38
Rays in 11. It's looks like this is going to be a good series.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 13 2008 at 14:43
Dodgers wake up and take it. Nice little bench clearing there. It appears Victorino doesn't liked to be buzzed.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 13 2008 at 14:45
Originally posted by crimhead crimhead wrote:

Dodgers wake up and take it. Nice little bench clearing there. It appears Victorino doesn't liked to be buzzed.


Sort of expected the Phils to drop that one, might be nice to steal tonight's game though.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 13 2008 at 15:44
Why do you even need to retaliate for getting hit with a Moyer fastball?  

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