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J-Man
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Topic: Least Proggy Metallica Album Posted: October 05 2008 at 10:33 |
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I think many of the albums (With the exception of St. Anger-which is really a horrible album) have an influence on the prog metal genre (especially their newest one). Just wondering what others thought. |
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Jared
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Posted: October 05 2008 at 10:37 | ||
^^St Anger is the only one I've never heard, but the Black Album is about as progressive as a bowl of cornflakes...
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J-Man
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Posted: October 05 2008 at 10:43 | ||
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Petrovsk Mizinski
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Posted: October 05 2008 at 10:46 | ||
Metallica did indeed influence prog metal, but really they had a broad influence on metal in general.
To my mind, the first four albums have something to do with prog to varying degrees.
The album Metallica retained a bit of thrash metal here and there (notably on Sad But True, which is essentially groove metal, a genre that is derived from thrash metal).
I'll vote Load for least proggy....a lot to do with it being extremely stripped down in arrangement really.
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TRIFIVE5000
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Posted: October 05 2008 at 11:26 | ||
I think that all the albums above are great but are sincerely vote for Metallica (Black Album)
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Jared
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Posted: October 05 2008 at 11:29 | ||
Oh come on...who voted for 'And Justice For All...'??
That's their MOST proggy....
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Stool Man
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Posted: October 05 2008 at 11:37 | ||
The only album I've heard is Master of Puppets, but after I saw them live last month somebody (a huge Metallica fan, not a prog fan) recommended St Anger as the place to start for listening to the rest.
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horsewithteeth11
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Posted: October 05 2008 at 13:34 | ||
LMAO Do NOT start with St. Anger. In fact, never listen to it. I'd recommend you try ...And Justice for All or Ride the Lightning next. Edited by birdwithteeth11 - October 05 2008 at 13:35 |
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Petrovsk Mizinski
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Posted: October 05 2008 at 13:51 | ||
St Anger would be pretty cool if you were deaf.. actually, that is too much of a compliment of St Anger.
I would honestly rather listen to 90125 than St Anger.
I would rather listen to a man puking than listen to St Anger.... at least it would be amusing for about 2 minutes
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darkshade
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Posted: October 05 2008 at 14:25 | ||
i would rather listen to George Bush speak for 2 hours than listen to St. Anger
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explodingjosh
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Posted: October 05 2008 at 15:16 | ||
The incorrect answers are the first 4 and Death Magnetic.
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Tapfret
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Posted: October 05 2008 at 16:34 | ||
What exactly is the problem with St. Anger? Quite frankly its the first interesting album since Master of Puppets.
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MovingPictures07
Prog Reviewer Joined: January 09 2008 Location: Beasty Heart Status: Offline Points: 32181 |
Posted: October 05 2008 at 16:35 | ||
I actually might agree with you there. |
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aapatsos
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Posted: October 05 2008 at 18:29 | ||
Thanks, you made me laugh......That was your intention, right? Seriously, St. Anger is the least proggish in any way you can look at it... Music is just a bunch of people manipulating their instruments, and lyrics are at least funny... Edited by aapatsos - October 05 2008 at 18:32 |
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Tapfret
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Posted: October 05 2008 at 19:28 | ||
First of all, there is 0 "proggish" about any their music, ever. Their history, their philosophy is 100% anti-prog. That wasn't my question. And your second statement can pretty much be said about any band. How many times do you think that has been said about King Crimson, Dream Theater, Yes, etc.? After the 15 years of utter rubbish they put out, that is really your opinion? When they decide to actually make changes to their sound and quit droning out the same old radio oriented tripe. Personally, I don't listen to it often either, there is way to much true progressive music, jazz and orchestral music out there that I want to hear. But I sure do have a hell of alot more respect for their work on SA for at least some effort at originality over the black album or Load or Freeload. And when I do decide to listen to them, it will probably be SA. Don't worry, they're back to what the same old crap. And I'm sure they are busy working on the Unforgiven IV. And the fact that SA gets more votes than Kill 'em All tells me that many people have not heard one or both of those albums. |
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crimson87
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Posted: October 05 2008 at 22:53 | ||
St anger rocks the hell out!!!
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Roj
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Posted: October 06 2008 at 03:52 | ||
Definitely Kill em All. Whilst it's not at all proggy, I love that album. Real thrash, brilliant album.
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The Doctor
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Posted: October 06 2008 at 04:48 | ||
You know. I was kinda wondering the same thing. I think someone must have been confused.
I don't have St. Anger or Death Magnetic. Of the ones that I have I would say Load is the least proggy. In fact, I really don't see any traces of prog on that album at all. It also happens to be my least favorite Metallica album, although Reload isn't much better in terms of progginess or likability.
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aapatsos
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Posted: October 06 2008 at 15:39 | ||
I agree that Metallica are not proggish, but you cannot deny that AJFA is a technical record (whatever that means for you). I also agree with the 15 years of rubbish music, but St. Anger is just beyond expectations... so much crap in one record I have never heard in my life... honestly... Kill 'em All might be their least proggish release, but I said St. Anger as this 'thing' is not even music to my ears. good point about Unforgiven IV, I clearly oppose to that idea. But At least DM is some sort of decent record, with strucutre, interesting riffs, some melodies... it represents sth, even if it's a copy of old material for you. I am not defending them at all, this record does not wipe out their recent past, but at least it's music, not just noise... |
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Avantgardehead
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Posted: October 08 2008 at 03:28 | ||
Okay, phew, there is a "none are prog" option...
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