Sabbath's Proggy albums!

These 2 albums are one of my Sabbath's faves, for 1 reason, well maybe more but 1 of them is the Progression the band made from their first up to these. These albums IMO are Heavy Prog, but this poll is not to move them to there just to know which album is considered by Prog fans the CLOSEST thing to Heavy Prog.

Surely Paranoid and their debut had 1 or 2 very Proggy songs, but the band was really a Heavy Rock band in the 70's. Eg: War Pigs.

Sabbath Bloody Sabbath for me it is. 6 songs out of 8 have at least some Prog elements, and each goes out through more than 5 minutes, with A LOT of time changes! Compared to their earlier stuff, or at least Rock in general. Sabotage on the other hand has 2 mini-"epics", which are very proggy as well, so it's a difficult choice.. but my vote, as I said before goes to the OVERALL Proggier Sabbath Bloody Sabbath.

EDIT: Oh one more thing, I was conscious about the section where this poll to be. I did it on Prog Polls cause I thought it was the most suitable because this poll is about Sabbath's PROGGY albums and not just Music in General, though if you have to move it I have no dilema.

Edited by cacho - October 02 2008 at 21:28

febus wrote: Hey, Pablo...seems we're not on PA at the same time lately!! My opinion about which one is the proggiest???? musically equal.........both have some awesome prog moments.                     So what will make the difference??........the cover artwork.....Sabbath Bloodyt sabbath for me

Hmm, seems so...

Anyways, with my absence you've became devilish!! I hate that cover! It scares me to hell()!
I prefer the "creative" Sabotage, which some people belive it's stupid

Soon to come Deep Purple and Zeppelin's...

Their two best albums with Ozzy imo. Sabotage narrowly get the vote, for sentimental reasons more than anything else....oh and of course for 'The Writ'

SBS for me.

Sabbath Bloody Sabbath out of those.
Never Say die has some really progressive moments aswell. Why isn't it mentioned here?

CPicard wrote: Abstrakt wrote: Sabbath Bloody Sabbath out of those.Never Say die has some really progressive moments aswell. Why isn't it mentioned here? Yes, that's the kind of thing that would prevent me from voting in any poll: two records "against" each other, without a more complex question.Moreover, for heavy-metal fans, Black Sabbath's "progessive era" rather started with "Sabotage" (hey, they had Rick Wakeman on keyboards!) and ended with "Never Say Die". In other words, "Sabbath Bloody Sabbath" is seen as the last "classical" album. Well, "classical"... I mean... For Black Sabbath.

You're wrong, Sabotage didn't have Rick Wakeman, Sabbath Bloody Sabbath had on Sabbra Cadabra, so your hipothesis or whatever must be mistaken.

Sabbath started with their first album already with some Prog oriented feel, at least Heavy Prog. Then Paranoid continued with some more, already mentioned War Pigs. Master of Reality was/is Sabbath's heaviest album IMO from Ozzy's era at least, and Vol 4 is rather weak, though some good ideas.
With Sabbath Bloody Sabbath, Black Sabbath really moved to a new direction on sound. Adding orchestral arrangements, acoustic guitars on top of electric, diverse tempos, etc.. It went on even further with Sabotage, with the mini "epics" The Writ and Meglomania.

I'll listen to Never Say Die once again, though I remember it to be quite mediocre, even Technical Ectasy(?) was better, having Dirt Women which is killer.

SBS.   That said, I think all of the Ozzy -era albums are pretty damn proggy. 

Sabotage takes it for me, arguably more progressive as a complete album. I love all Ozzy " Sabbtah" era albums....

Who said that phrase , "I only thrust in god and Sabbath's first 6 albums"?

Both albums are good.