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peskypesky
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Topic: Peter Hammil & Rob Halford (Judas Priest) Posted: June 21 2008 at 03:18 |
I grew up on Judas Priest and my favorite album was "Sad Wings of Destiny". Now, all these years later, I'm starting to listen to Van Der Graaf Generator and I'm freaked out at how much Peter Hammil sounds like Rob Halford (or should it be the other way around?). At first I thought Hammil sounded like Ziggy-era David Bowie, but the resemblance to Halford seems even stronger.
Very weird....
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Posted: June 21 2008 at 05:32 |
Its not very wierd Hammill is a so called singers singer in that most other famus singers that have come after have taken inspiration and copied parts of his style allot of famus singers have said Hammill has been a big inspirtaion for thiere singing style. Hammill is much more famus among other artists then with the comon folks i whuld gues.
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Posted: June 22 2008 at 13:53 |
Yeah, I've always thought the two sounded very similar. That probably helped me get into them (having heard Judas Priest before VdGG).
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Posted: June 22 2008 at 23:07 |
This was talked about before; someone mentioned that they'd seen a magazine (either a Swedish or Dutch one) where RH listed his fave singers and Hammill was among them (by the way, it would be RH who sounds like Hammill if one was forced to go there... Hammill started VdGG all the way back in '67 and was recording and releasing material professionally by '68/'69).
Another metal legend who is a Hammill fanatic is Iron Maiden's Bruce Dickinson, who has namechecked Hammill and VdGG on several occasions.
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Posted: June 23 2008 at 01:55 |
Am I the only one who hears a vocal similarity between early Judas Priest and Rare Bird?
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Posted: June 23 2008 at 02:19 |
I spotted the simularity between Halford and Hammill some years ago. When I pointed it out on this forum, I was almost laughed out of town!
But yes, they can sound similar. I think it first really struck me, hearing Hammill singing 'Take away the threat of death!' in 'Still Life'
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Posted: June 23 2008 at 04:56 |
^ laughed out of the Bacchus Plateau by this forum? No way
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Posted: June 23 2008 at 05:20 |
^ I know, hard to believe isn't it..and I've been verbally mugged by disgruntled ELP fans too!
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Posted: June 23 2008 at 11:03 |
When I first became a vdGG/Hammill fan I was surprised at all the subsequent artists that listed Hammill as a favorite/influence; as we've said around here, he isn't famous like Gabriel and Bowie worldwide but the artists know who he is...one of the most important singers in popular music for his time. The most overt tribute by Priest is "Epitaph" from the second album...sounds like an early Hammill (or Queen) ballad, Wilhelmia perhaps?
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Posted: June 23 2008 at 11:06 |
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Posted: June 23 2008 at 14:38 |
Wow!!! i do listen a lot both singers and never think that they really sound almost the same.
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Posted: June 23 2008 at 15:10 |
'Epitaph' just IS Peter Hammill IMHO- it reminds me of 'Wilhemina'. There's a particular bit in 'Epitaph' where Halford sings 'yet he shouted out his epitaph...' where you'll swear blind it's Hammill.
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Posted: June 23 2008 at 15:13 |
jimmy_row wrote:
Blacksword wrote:
^ I know, hard to believe isn't it..and I've been verbally mugged by disgruntled ELP fans too! | Bah, that lot aren't much to be frightened about...there's what maybe 3 or 4 left (and they're ALWAYS "disgruntled"). I wear those attempted muggings as a badge of honor. |
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Posted: June 23 2008 at 22:22 |
salmacis wrote:
'Epitaph' just IS Peter Hammill IMHO- it reminds me of 'Wilhemina'. There's a particular bit in 'Epitaph' where Halford sings 'yet he shouted out his epitaph...' where you'll swear blind it's Hammill. |
OK, so I'm glad I'm not the only one who hears the resemblance. I think I'm going to do a little audio edit to highlight the similarity.
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Posted: September 12 2008 at 14:07 |
Here come the tears!!!
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Posted: September 17 2008 at 13:16 |
I know a good audiologist and he's reasonably cheap! Drop me a line and I will have him give you a free check-up. Your hearing CAN be saved just have faith!
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Posted: September 17 2008 at 14:02 |
wow, I have never thought of that! It's actually happening... I don't know if it is the way of singing, it might also be the accent that sounds similar... But well, they both do sing in a distinct way
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Posted: September 18 2008 at 05:53 |
I get the impression that VDGG is one of those bands that continue to be somewhat obscure despite being extremely influential.
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Posted: September 18 2008 at 10:09 |
Toaster Mantis wrote:
I get the impression that VDGG is one of those bands that continue to be somewhat obscure despite being extremely influential. |
Yes and No. Here in the States the answer is 'yes'. There is no press to speak of and very little airplay save for the odd track on some college radio station. That's on the band itself as they never toured the U.S. You'll get the odd music fan in his 40's or 50's who remembers the band from their college days in the 1970's when your hipper young Americans would turn onto the more experimental European bands.
In Britain, at least, there have been feature length articles in all of the major music mags (and even good coverage in the regular newspapers). I think that even if they're not familiar with any of the music, the average Brit music fan (or maybe slightly above average!) has at least heard the name Van der Graaf Generator. And I saw them 7 times in '05 in the U.K. when they played in auditoriums that ranged in size from 1,500 - 3,000 and always drew a very respectable crowd (some were sold out completely). So, that alone would tell you that there is a healthy following. They're not ever going to be on the 'charts' with a single or album, but they're not completely 'obscure' either. They're at least somewhat known. And they're even more well known in other European countries (but probably less so and more obscure in others still).
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Posted: September 18 2008 at 10:12 |
Hmmm. I do remember reading that in Italy they're as big as Pink Floyd, but here in Denmark they're total and utter nobodies.
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