The Tech/Extreme Prog metal appreciation

tokenrove wrote: burritounit wrote: Opposite?? I'm not sure about that since I don't think they've ever been commercial. The Scattering Of Ashes is a bit of a disappointment. They returned to the same formula as before: repeating rhythms over and over again(listen to the first 2 albums and that one carefully and you'll notice what I mean) and in Buried In Oblivion they did something really different within their particular sound. And the new album...well it's even more of a disappointment though not entirely. I think Buried is their most commercial sounding by far (which is not to say I don't like it). They could easily have jumped ship on metal and started making whiny emo pop. Sure, they didn't see commercial success with it, but that's not what I'm talking about.

the video and lyrics for Severe Emotional Distress are pretty goddamn emo, to be crass

anyway
has anyone heard anything about the new Cynic album? I think it's supposed to come out in a few months

avalanchemaster wrote: Plankowner wrote: I did, ordered the two box sets which covers their 4 studios albums. plus the Aslan demo and the live show dvd. that is all you need.  I hope you love them as much as I do.....they are really something else, certainly without peer imo....

I also hope that Waltz will find some new  aficionados.
At first I thought that A Social Grace is an interesting but very messy album, now it belongs to my all time favourites.
I really like their second 2 efforts, too, although they are less complicated than the first 2.

heyitsthatguy wrote: tokenrove wrote: burritounit wrote: Opposite?? I'm not sure about that since I don't think they've ever been commercial. The Scattering Of Ashes is a bit of a disappointment. They returned to the same formula as before: repeating rhythms over and over again(listen to the first 2 albums and that one carefully and you'll notice what I mean) and in Buried In Oblivion they did something really different within their particular sound. And the new album...well it's even more of a disappointment though not entirely. I think Buried is their most commercial sounding by far (which is not to say I don't like it). They could easily have jumped ship on metal and started making whiny emo pop. Sure, they didn't see commercial success with it, but that's not what I'm talking about. the video and lyrics for Severe Emotional Distress are pretty goddamn emo, to be crass anyway has anyone heard anything about the new Cynic album? I think it's supposed to come out in a few months

Agreed!! this is one of the reasons why after Buried In Oblivion the band started declining...they'll never be the same again.

JayDee wrote: Discovered Ketha recently.

I'm finally getting around to listen to their album III-ia (released last year).
Pretty slamming stuff

It had some touches of Nevermore as you said Jay,  but to me it was more a general groove metal vibe than Nevermore in particular. Perhaps a more death metallish groove metal sound perhaps?
Hmm, perhaps it's groove math metal?
Definitely Technical/Extreme metal, but I need a few more listen as to decide whether it could really be Tech/Extreme prog metal though.


Edited by HughesJB4 - August 25 2008 at 04:01

Well even if they were influenced by Nevermore, the influence is very slight because after listening to the whole album, I didn't really hear anything that made me think "this part reminds me of Nevermore".
 Chances are, they might not have been influenced by them at all, and perhaps they were influenced by straight out groove metal bands, Meshuggah (who are kinda groove-ish) and quite probably math metalcore stuff like Botch and Converge etc.

I added a great band called Into the Moat to Tech/Extreme last evening.There are only two songs on their Myspace page but their only full-length album(so far),"The Design",is amazing.Very technical yet chaotic,with losts of breaks and abrupt time changes and some jazz influences thrown in.

TheProgtologist wrote: JayDee wrote: REVOCATION kicks major arse!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   Never heard of them but just read two glowing reviews for their 2008 release Empire of the Obscene.I will definitely check them out JD,thanks man!   BTW....how's your wife and little one doing?

I'm listening to it as I post! Really really good!

The wife and our baby are doing great. Simon is on his 7th month now, and man can he drink milk!
I couldn't ask for more man!

I hope things are going well for you and your loved ones as well. God bless.


Now, where were we.... Aha!!!  The Haunted is petty good too.

Dim wrote: Uh oh, were getting a little soft in here... So, who here agrees that Enslaved's new album is crap?

Metalheads have  soft parts too, specially when it's about your family.  Trust me.
It's really nice that my lifetime partner also likes most of the stuff I listen to. In fact, we met during a concert. It's not far from reality and I wouldn't mind at all if my boy would appreciate metal the way I do, for it runs in the blood.

Haven't heard the new Enslaved. I will check it out.

Yeah, it is, dont bother JD. The vocals have all but deteriorated, they literally sound like a broken garbage disposal, therefore they're relying on clean vocals a lot more, which could be a good thing, but it's just not enslaved. Also all the black/viking metal energy is almost completely gone, it's just so lackluster when compared to RUUN, and that album is considered pretty mellow by the hardcore fans...