The Tech/Extreme Prog metal appreciation
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Topic: The Tech/Extreme Prog metal appreciation
Posted By: FruMp
Subject: The Tech/Extreme Prog metal appreciation
Date Posted: October 25 2007 at 02:37
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I think it's time we started embracing this new genre, probably one of the most controversial on the site. I think it needs it's own appreciation topic, also I'm always on the hunt for underrated gems so recommend your favourite albums.
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Posted By: goose
Date Posted: October 25 2007 at 03:22
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Well I can understand the controversy - what's the connection between tech metal and progressive rock? |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: October 25 2007 at 03:31
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^ it lies in the bands listed in the genre ... they're not just technical.
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: October 25 2007 at 03:37
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the bands are rock and they're progressive.. I don't see the problem ..recs? Blotted Science, Counter-World Experience, Sleep Terror, Collapsar, the F***ing Champs (not on PA) |
Posted By: Certif1ed
Date Posted: October 25 2007 at 03:43
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The only connection I can think of is attention to technique in the playing. There's precious little else that links the bits and pieces I've heard of this genre to Prog Rock.
I used to be in a band that played what we called Technical Thrash. We called it that, because we listened to techniques that other thrash bands used, especially the more technically oriented - like Megadeth, Kreator, etc (this was in 1986), then worked on the techniques to incorporate them into the musical style we wanted to play - and we plundered deeply (although we didn't purloin the actual musical ideas themselves
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Posted By: FruMp
Date Posted: October 25 2007 at 04:14
You need to listen to more of it then. You couldn't really deny that bands like Atheist, Cynic or Spastic Ink are prog, just as you couldn't deny they are extreme and or technical metal. Metal is just an extention of rock too, it falls under the rock umbrella. -------------
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Certif1ed wrote:Posted By: andu
Date Posted: October 25 2007 at 04:19
I've found some great stuff bordering with fusion, such as Spastic Ink - I'm glad this style exists 
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Posted By: avatar
Date Posted: October 25 2007 at 04:44
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Some recs:
Diabolical Masquerade, the project of Blakkheim (Katatonia). Specially the album Death´s Design (2001)
Edge of Sanity, with Dan Swanö. The album Crimson II (2003) had collaborations from Clive Nolan (Arena, Pendragon) in the lyrics, and in vocals and guitars from Mikael Akerfelt (Opeth) .
Unexpect surprised me too in 2006 with In A Flesh Aquarium, an amazing release. ------------- Carpe Diem |
Posted By: russellk
Date Posted: October 25 2007 at 05:07
| Absolutely. I don't know how else you'd describe UNEXPECT except in progressive terms, and they're certainly both technical and extreme metal. |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: October 25 2007 at 05:25
You should really listen to Blotted Science ... I honestly believe you would enjoy it. And *maybe* you'll agree with me that it's quite different from anything that Megadeth, Kreator etc. would play. http://www.myspace.com/blottedscience - http://www.myspace.com/blottedscience  ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Mike" rel="nofollow">Recently listened to:
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Posted By: JayDee
Date Posted: October 25 2007 at 06:22
Spiral Architect and Spatic Ink are gateway bands that led me to the genre.It's much of an acquired taste for me. I can't stand much of the growling at first, but the heavy, almost punishing guitar riffs and punchy blastbeats (jackhammer ) kept me interested. Meshuggah and Opeth helped a lot to make the harsh vocals acceptable ( yes, for lack of a better word). Now, I find myself really hooked with bands like:
Becoming The Archetype
Behold... The Arctopus
Continuo Renacer
Sleep Terror
Psycroptic
The Red Chord
Psyopus
Anata
Theory in Practice
Atheist
Cynic
Alarum
... and loads of other stuff.
Not all bands that i've mentioned is in PA methinks, but anyways, here's a one, big devil horns salute for PA for the recognition of the genre:
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Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: October 25 2007 at 06:37
So do I, and I intend to delve deeper. Though what I've heard so far is definitely NOT easy listening, I think many of those bands are really the way forward for prog, and not just a regurgitation of what others did much better in the Seventies. Just my two eurocents, of course  ... |
Posted By: JayDee
Date Posted: October 25 2007 at 06:44
Oh wow!!!
 Go and delve deeper Ms. Raf.
Yeah, don't listen to Tech/Extreme when you're unwinding.
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: October 25 2007 at 06:44
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that's right, Raff, they're among the most forward-pushing acts right now |
Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: October 25 2007 at 06:48
Pity that not everybody here sees them that way... Far too many still think of metal as the prerogative of illiterate, foul-mouthed, hairy yobs, and refuse to see anything progressive about it. The debate currently raging after the PM split actually gave me the idea for a new blog... if I ever get round to sitting down and writing it, that is!
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Posted By: Certif1ed
Date Posted: October 25 2007 at 08:08
I probably could, if that's what I thought.
As it happens, I haven't listened to those bands very much, on a "once bitten..." basis.
We are talking about bands that use the standard song structure, with extended instrumental sections, rigid and repetitive riffs (mostly quite short and single-phrase - no actual development or progression per se, just a large number of small ideas strung togther and put through various time signatures to make it sound complicated as opposed to truly compositionally complex) - and that includes the quiet bits, which typically waste the opportunity to compose something interesting, and simply break down a short (and normally exceedingly simple) riff into picked chords, with solos that are normally pyrotechnical displays of various techniques, improvisation, or a combination of the two, rather than true compositions (something that stands out a mile to a composition student).
OK, maybe Spastic Ink don't deserve that description, but certainly Atheist and Cynic both do, from what I've heard.
Well quite, but there's a LOT of rock that isn't Prog, and most metal isn't Prog either.
Prog Metal != Prog Rock, and metal has evolved a long way from its' rock roots. ------------- The important thing is not to stop questioning. |
Posted By: Certif1ed
Date Posted: October 25 2007 at 08:11
All I had to do was see the name Ron Jarzombek, and I knew that here is part of the "precious little" - but there's still a Megadeth link ------------- The important thing is not to stop questioning. |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: October 25 2007 at 08:38
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^ there is some of Megadeth in Jarzombek, but little to none Jarzombek in Megadeth ... that's the thing. BTW: Some more of the precious little here: http://www.myspace.com/artmetalband - http://www.myspace.com/artmetalband  ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Mike" rel="nofollow">Recently listened to:
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Posted By: FruMp
Date Posted: October 25 2007 at 09:50
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Megadeth and Jarzombek?, hmm hard to see a link, although on the topic of thrash and technical metal if anyone here is a thrash fan then Coroner are an absolute must, 'Punishment for Decadence' is one of the best tech-thrash albums ever recorded, hell it's one of the best thrash albums ever recorded, it'd probably be top 10.
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Posted By: jmcdaniel_ee
Date Posted: October 25 2007 at 12:56
Between the Buried and Me's album Alaska. 
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Posted By: ProgBagel
Date Posted: October 25 2007 at 13:27
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Its just as good as any other genre on the archives. If I feel the need to be blown away with sheer talent and precision...I'll listen to this. This genre has been on my priority list lately with bands that I've discovered the past few months like Spastic Ink, Spiral Architect, Sleep Terror, Unexpect, Canvas Solaris, Blotted Science and Behold...The Arctopus.
Dsyrthmia??? and Continuo Renacer (sp???) impressed me as well. |
Posted By: Easy Money
Date Posted: October 25 2007 at 14:24
| I'm an old guy from the 70s and I think some of these new metal bands are incredible. Its not something I want to listen to a lot, but these artists are definitly "progressing" rock music to new places. |
Posted By: Certif1ed
Date Posted: October 25 2007 at 15:54
It's not that hard - although it's tenuous (hence the winky).
Marty Friedman is the link I had in mind - although there are others.
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: October 25 2007 at 18:23
 Check out Becoming the Archetype too if you don't know them already: http://www.myspace.com/becomingthearchetype - http://www.myspace.com/becomingthearchetype ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Mike" rel="nofollow">Recently listened to:
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Posted By: ProgBagel
Date Posted: October 25 2007 at 20:01
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The one thing that boggles me about this genre is on how to rate it...or think which one is better then which?
I place UnExpect's - In A Flesh Aquarium at the top...5 stars no doubt. I just listened to Spiral Architect, Aghora, Spastic Ink and Behold the Arctopus (skullgrid..not nano nucleonic,an utter masterpiece ,...all excellent albums...but so hard to choose. They would all fit the 4 star album pool. It's just so hard to put one over the other, which one sounds better, more technical? ARGHHHH |
Posted By: Shakespeare
Date Posted: October 25 2007 at 20:07
I still don't really see difference between the three metal genres.  Personally, I still endorse the idea of very few subgenres, and if there were to be any cuts, lobbing all the metal together would've been a place to start. But it's not a huge deal for me, I can live with any decisions PA maketh. |
Posted By: Apsalar
Date Posted: October 25 2007 at 20:46
| Just brought Akeldama by The Faceless, on the recommendation from a trusted friend. I don't think I have enjoyed a DM album so much since The Scepter of the Ancients. I see they are on the PM chart, if they get accepted I will be more than willing to add them. |
Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: October 25 2007 at 22:17
I just added them to the chart a few days ago,excellent stuff.
I love this kind of music,and their are two bands in this sub that everyone really needs to check out...Coprofago and Theory in Practice.I would recommend Coprofago's Unorthodox Creative Criteria and TiP's album Colonizing the Sun. -------------  |
Posted By: Apsalar
Date Posted: October 25 2007 at 22:38
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Jody I will keep an eye for the two aforementioned albums next time I'm out shopping. I really have not listened to a lot of this music since I was attending school. I would also like to suggest two Canadian bands. Firstly Martyr, all their studio albums are recommended, I think my favourite would be Warp Zone. The second is Augury, they only have one disc out, but it's definitely worth tracking down. There is a sample on the site to listen to: http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=12849 - http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=12849 . |
Posted By: FruMp
Date Posted: October 26 2007 at 01:55
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How does everyone here feel about the band Gorguts?, I think it's a bit of a travesty that they were rejected from the archives, they'd fit perfectly in this new genre, they are one of the most technical and avant-garde death metal bands out there.
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Posted By: Certif1ed
Date Posted: October 26 2007 at 02:45
Seems like the same kind of thing as technical metal to me - the riffs may be quirky and full of twists - but they're still repeated riffs, and the songs maintain very simple song structures with multi-section bridges. The overall sound is constant and fits into a very tight, easily identifiable narrow spectrum. In this, there's no difference to standard metal - the difference is only in the detail, not the whole.
What I've heard of them is not progressive to my ears - and certainly not avant-garde! John Zorn is avant-garde, as are Spastic Ink, to a lesser degree. ------------- The important thing is not to stop questioning. |
Posted By: FruMp
Date Posted: October 26 2007 at 06:12
1.the advance group in any field, esp. in the visual, literary, or musical arts, whose works are characterized chiefly by unorthodox and experimental methods. Based on that definition I don't see how they couldn't be considered avant-garde. -------------
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Posted By: Visitor13
Date Posted: October 26 2007 at 06:41
Mmm, which Gorguts album(s) have you heard? Obscura? Just wondering. |
Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: October 26 2007 at 09:44
Have you heard Martyr's newest album Feeding the Abscess?I think it is light years ahead of Warp Zone,which is also an excellent album in its own right.
Anata is worth checking out too. ------------- |
Posted By: FruMp
Date Posted: October 26 2007 at 21:43
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Posted By: Dim
Date Posted: October 26 2007 at 21:46
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Funny this thread pops up when I listen to Cynic for the first time.
Focus was pretty much awesme, amazing vocals and musicianship, I'm getting the album on monday!!!!
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Posted By: Dim
Date Posted: October 26 2007 at 21:47
I second the recomendation! -------------
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Posted By: FruMp
Date Posted: October 26 2007 at 22:47
Human if you're a death metal fan, symbolic if that's a bit too heavy for you. -------------
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Posted By: Apsalar
Date Posted: October 27 2007 at 00:11
For me, it's probably more a matter of timing. I listened to Warp Zone a lot back in '02/'03, but when Feeding the Abscess rolled around, my tastes in metal were predominately targeted towards doom (and a bit of black). So in turn it didn't grow on me as much as their previous album. |
Posted By: Dim
Date Posted: October 28 2007 at 18:11
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Bump
I really dont care how heavy the album is, as long as it's not stupid heavy. THanks Frump -------------
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Posted By: Bj-1
Date Posted: October 29 2007 at 12:04
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Im a tech lover. Some of my favorite tech-metal bands are Meshuggah, Sieges Even, Zero Hour and Watchtower/Spastic Ink. ------------- RIO/AVANT/ZEUHL - The best thing you can get with yer pants on! |
Posted By: Tapfret
Date Posted: October 29 2007 at 12:40
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Its funny how people perceive the sub-genre. Few can grasp how I find more in common between Spastic Ink and Return to Forever than I can between Gentle Giant and King Crimson. My favorites in the sub: Martyr - Feeding the Abscess
Watchtower - Control and Resistance
Spastic Ink - Ink Compatible
Spiral Architect - Sceptics Universe
Voivod - Dimension Hatross
Coprofago - Unorthadox Creative Criteria
Canvas Solaris - Penumbra Diffuse
Death - Sound of Perserverance
Unexpect - In a Flesh Aquarium (More an RIO band, IMHO. And one I have PA to thank for the discovery)
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Posted By: ProgBagel
Date Posted: October 29 2007 at 15:18
Definetely Symobolic...one of the best death metal albums ever made. |
Posted By: #1floydfan
Date Posted: October 29 2007 at 18:58
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heres some diablo swing orchestra - the butchers ball room behold... the arctopus : skull grind spastic ink - ink compatable ( very hard to get a hard copy of this...) anathema- alternative 4 psychotic waltz - a social grace ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/jimbobismykitty/?chartstyle=basicrt10 - [IMG - http://imagegen.last.fm/basicrt10/recenttracks/jimbobismykitty.gif - |
Posted By: ProgBagel
Date Posted: October 29 2007 at 19:15
Did you ever listen to Behold...the Arctopus debut album? I tend to like that one better. |
Posted By: Dim
Date Posted: October 29 2007 at 21:47
On my list! -------------
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Posted By: Tapfret
Date Posted: October 29 2007 at 23:32
Only hard if you don't have $12 plus s/h.
http://www.lasercd.com/ProductInfo.aspx?productid=MK1302 - http://www.lasercd.com/ProductInfo.aspx?productid=MK1302 ------------- https://www.last.fm/user/Tapfret" rel="nofollow"> https://bandcamp.com/tapfret" rel="nofollow - Bandcamp |
Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: October 31 2007 at 23:28
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These guys aren't in the archives(yet),but they are insanely good,check them out.
Psycroptic:
http://www.psycroptic.com/ - http://www.psycroptic.com/
http://www.myspace.com/psycroptic - http://www.myspace.com/psycroptic ------------- |
Posted By: Apsalar
Date Posted: November 01 2007 at 19:31
| ^^^ I heartily agree with the Psycroptic recommendation. Seem 'em several times live, and they were something to behold. First saw them when I was 'round 15 at a metal festival called Blood lust III, they came on the stage after 'Destroyer 666' and absolutely blew them away. Matt Chalk's vocals floored me, never heard anything like 'em. Still have not picked up their latest album, my spirits were dampened when I heard Matt left the band. There is another band from Tasmania, which sound somewhat similar, but their name is escaping me at the moment, if I remember I will post it hear, they are quite good. |
Posted By: aapatsos
Date Posted: November 01 2007 at 19:49
Symbolic for me too but you should also try 'The Sound of Perseverance', their last effort Wikipedia speaks the truth: This album, in particular, employs a style more akin to progressive metal than the earliest Death releases, although since Human and the albums following it, the band had been developing more toward this style. The average song time on this album is around 6 minutes long. |
Posted By: sean
Date Posted: November 02 2007 at 23:33
| i just picked up unexpect's "in a flesh aquarium" and behold the arctopus's "skullgrid" because i had liked what i heard online. both were great albums, i'm looking forward to finding out more about this new genre and discovering some great bands. |
Posted By: Dim
Date Posted: November 02 2007 at 23:35
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I REALLY wnat skullgrid!
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Posted By: sean
Date Posted: November 02 2007 at 23:40
i'd probably say 4 or 4.5 out of 5. not perfect, but still amazing. great technical instrumental metal album, and some of the best musicianship i've ever heard. definitely pick it up if you get a chance. |
Posted By: Dim
Date Posted: November 02 2007 at 23:41
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Will do! -------------
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Posted By: sean
Date Posted: November 02 2007 at 23:43
good choice. it's a real treat for anyone into that sort of thing. you'll have to let us know what you think. also i think mastodon deserves some mention in this thread if nobody has mentioned them yet. |
Posted By: Dim
Date Posted: November 02 2007 at 23:47
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Did you buy Skullgrid online?
I dont like mastadon at all, but Opeth are very good! Have all they're albums! -------------
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Posted By: heyitsthatguy
Date Posted: November 02 2007 at 23:48
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Skullgrid!! Gah!! <3 I can't remember any of it (I'm surprised they do enough to play it) but the technicality of it is mindblowing ------------- 
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: November 02 2007 at 23:55
| maybe you're not suppose to remember any of it |
Posted By: Dim
Date Posted: November 02 2007 at 23:56
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^ yeah, it's all just a bunch of jam sesions! -------------
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Posted By: sean
Date Posted: November 03 2007 at 15:14
i agree, i don't think their purpose is for it to be memorable. i think they just try to assault your ears for half an hour and then when the album is done all you can remember is just how mindblowing the experience was. that album just gives me a constant adrenaline rush, and i'm surprised as well at how the band is able to remember to play those songs. |
Posted By: sean
Date Posted: November 03 2007 at 15:15
opeth is a great band, although i only have from blackwater park to ghost reveries. |
Posted By: Dim
Date Posted: November 03 2007 at 17:44
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I got Skullgrid! -------------
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Posted By: Dim
Date Posted: November 03 2007 at 18:17
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IT'S BLOWING MY MIND! -------------
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Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: November 03 2007 at 18:36
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^^^^^^^^
They have a tendency to do that to people.The other band Colin Marston is a member of,Dysrhythmia,is also superb. ------------- |
Posted By: sean
Date Posted: November 04 2007 at 11:03
I haven't heard Dysrhythmia. What is it like? |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: November 04 2007 at 11:24
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^ have a listen: http://www.myspace.com/dysrhythmiaband - http://www.myspace.com/dysrhythmiaband
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Posted By: sean
Date Posted: November 04 2007 at 13:18
will do |
Posted By: sean
Date Posted: November 04 2007 at 13:25
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Another band that's listed in the tech section that i think deserves some attention is Fredrick Thordendal's Special Defects. anyone heard of them? Also, I saw John Petrucci on there. As much as I enjoy Dream Theater, I didn't find his solo album that enjoyable. I think the guitar on there was great, but the drum and bass parts were rather bland, which is the case with a lot of solo albums. Another one I can't get into is Psyopus. I don't know what it is about them, because one of my friends recommended them because I like the Dillinger Escape Plan a bit, and I see the similarities, and I can appreciate what they do, but I just can't enjoy it too much. I've also noticed Between the Buried and Me getting a bit of attention. I've been meaning to check them out. I didn't like the song I had heard off of "Alaska" that much, but i've been hearing a lot of praise for "Colors" so I'll have to check that out sometime. |
Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: November 04 2007 at 20:09
That album is soooooooo good!!! Its just as good as any Mehsuggah album, and even better that some too!!! In my book only "I" beats it!!! ------------- "You want me to play what, Robert?" 
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Posted By: sean
Date Posted: November 04 2007 at 23:11
i still don't have the album, i just listen to the samples they have online a lot. great stuff, really weird but still technical. i love playing that sort of thing for my "normal" friends. |
Posted By: heyitsthatguy
Date Posted: November 04 2007 at 23:14
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Dysrhythmia didn't click with me me nearly as much as Behold...The Arctopus did, but I might give them another listen sometime soon
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: November 04 2007 at 23:14
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BTW, though not categorized as 'Tech', Sleeping People's new Growing is really good.. a big jump forward for them, and very complex |
Posted By: heyitsthatguy
Date Posted: November 04 2007 at 23:20
I can't take Psyopus either, except in very small doses, and they remind me of a more annoying Dillinger BTBAM's "Colors" is definitely worth checking out- I personally don't even like the whole "metalcore" subgenre but I really like Colors (much more than Alaska, might I add, which had a few pretty good tracks and the rest were meh, but I'm not that into "extreme metal") -------------
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Posted By: Progdrummer73
Date Posted: November 05 2007 at 10:37
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The new Between the Buried and Me album Colors sounds like they've really dropped their "-core" sound completely. it's my album of the year for 2007, as it's nearly perfect IMO. They combine extreme metal with jazz and even bluegrass so well it's mind-blowing. I also like Becoming the Archetype, LOOOVE Death, Atheist, etc. and love Meshuggah. |
Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: November 05 2007 at 11:00
I totally agree.BtBaM started moving away from the metal-core sound with Alaska,and the "core" sound is completely gone on Colors(which is also my pick for best album of the year). ------------- |
Posted By: sean
Date Posted: November 05 2007 at 16:32
i've been hearing that a lot. alaska didn't do much for me but i'll look into colors because i've heard a lot of praise. i'm usually not too much into "core" bands, so i'm glad they're moving away from it. |
Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: November 05 2007 at 17:18
I put a track from Colors on the streaming player on BtBaM's page awhile ago,check it out. ------------- |
Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: November 05 2007 at 17:22
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Just curious....but do you guys know that Between the Buried and Me released an all-instrumental version of Alaska recently? ------------- |
Posted By: sean
Date Posted: November 05 2007 at 23:01
| i'm listening to the between the buried me track on their page, "informal gluttony". earlier today i went back and listened to the song "alaska" and found it more enjoyable than before. i'll be buying colors soon. also, i'm looking forward to that upcoming tour with dream theater, opeth, between the buried and me, and 3. |
Posted By: Dim
Date Posted: November 06 2007 at 19:20
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If 3 were a bit more metal, and a LOT less poppy, they would fit great in this thread. -------------
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Posted By: sean
Date Posted: November 09 2007 at 11:09
Agreed, but I think they're a great band nonetheless. I saw them opening for Porcupine Tree and I had never heard of them before, so I was pretty impressed. I hung out with them after the show and they were really cool guys as well. It's always when you meet those types of musicians. i'm not normally into poppy stuff, but there was just something about three. maybe it was that the singer played almost flamenco, finger style acoustic guitar and they had two drummers and the lead guitarist wore what looked like a jedi robe and had a fan blowing his hair back the whole time. just a lot of real unique show. it sounded like a more technical sort of coheed and cambria to me. |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: November 09 2007 at 11:44
Well, if they were also more extreme and more technical ... ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Mike" rel="nofollow">Recently listened to:
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Posted By: Tapfret
Date Posted: November 10 2007 at 00:31
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Oh man, I think I gave myself a techaneurysm. Picked up Blottted Science and Skullgrid on the same day. OUCH!!!
Fortunately, I also supplemented with some RPI(New Trolls, Area). I can break things up a bit and keep my brain under control. ------------- https://www.last.fm/user/Tapfret" rel="nofollow"> https://bandcamp.com/tapfret" rel="nofollow - Bandcamp |
Posted By: ProgBagel
Date Posted: November 12 2007 at 00:25
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Got my dosage of Continuo Renacer and Canvas Solaris.
Continuo Renacer....amazing solid cd. Tap that angel has become one of my favorite tracks. Canvas Solaris is changing the face of prog-metal. I own there latest two cd's. Both are 5 star albums...essential for a tech prog head. |
Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: November 12 2007 at 08:42
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Good to see you are listening to some Continuo Renacer,they are superb.
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Posted By: ProgBagel
Date Posted: November 12 2007 at 12:45
| It was quite superb...I need to listen to it more. As I said before, Tap that Angel is probably my favorite track. I seem to play it a few times a day now, it just puts me in such a pleasant daze. |
Posted By: Dim
Date Posted: November 13 2007 at 22:36
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Three are really technical Mike, well, the instrumental stuff. Too much pop though, cant really get into them.
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Posted By: Tapfret
Date Posted: November 14 2007 at 12:57
In myfirst couple listens Skullgrid seems to be there most cohessive work so far. Its all technical but seems better directed than earlier work. ------------- https://www.last.fm/user/Tapfret" rel="nofollow"> https://bandcamp.com/tapfret" rel="nofollow - Bandcamp |
Posted By: ProgBagel
Date Posted: November 14 2007 at 22:45
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I haven't listened to Skullgrid enough, but as of now I still prefer Nano...
Skullgrid wasn't vastly different, but I have only listened to it once! What do I know?!?! 
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Posted By: sean
Date Posted: November 15 2007 at 21:32
| has anyone heard the new dillinger escape plan yet? i've heard the songs they've posted online but i'm not sure yet if i want to buy it, but they've always been one of those bands where the songs grow on me each time i hear it, and i think i've only heard a couple songs of theirs that i've heard the first time and liked quite a bit. |
Posted By: Dim
Date Posted: November 15 2007 at 21:34
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Mmmmmmm... Dilinger! -------------
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Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: November 15 2007 at 23:32
I have,and love it.
It's a little more accessible than their earlier work,but I think Ire Works is a pretty solid album. ------------- |
Posted By: sean
Date Posted: November 16 2007 at 11:50
i'm surprised that you say it's more accessible, since they said they were going to go to a style more like calculating infinity, but i've only heard two songs, "fix your face" and "black bubblegum". fix your face seemed like typical dillinger fare but i was really surprised by black bubblegum. i liked the eerie feeling it had and greg was using a falsetto, not exactly what you expect from a dillinger song, but still pretty cool. i've read interviews with greg and he says he's really into mogwai and a lot of electronic stuff so maybe that's been more of an influence. |
Posted By: Hamfari
Date Posted: November 16 2007 at 14:31
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Arcturus - Sham Mirrors FTW! ------------- Nobody needs to go anywhere else. We are all, if we only knew it, already there. |
Posted By: ProgBagel
Date Posted: November 16 2007 at 21:59
I agree mostly, it was solid. It wasn't the most spectacular release though, but you can't always expect the most out of a band. |
Posted By: sean
Date Posted: November 16 2007 at 23:51
how much has the change in drummer and having only one guitarist affected their sound? do they still go with the same basic approach or is it totally different? |
Posted By: Era V.
Date Posted: November 18 2007 at 12:30
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Hmm, some people here seem to have very rigid definitions of what should be labelled prog or otherwise. I would absolutely call Atheist, Cynic and Aghora prog-metal. They are far more prog than Dream Theater ever will be. Sure they have repeated riffs but....so did King Crimson, Rush and Genesis........? Maybe there's something I'm missing! Anyways, yeah, Anata, glad to see them mentioned, saw them in Dublin a couple of years ago on the Composer's tour, very, very good live band. Much more about the composition side of things then say the straight up technical leanings of Necrophagist for instance, who are essentially just straight death metal with ludicrously virtuoso style solos. Most progressive Death album is surely Sound Of Perseverance...what an album! We used to cover Flesh And The Power It Holds - definitely something you need a warm up before attempting! hehe If you haven't yet heard Gorod I would definitely recommend them, also maybe some Omnium Gatherum...vocals aren't exactly to my taste but some interesting song-writing ideas and style mixes. |
Posted By: ProgBagel
Date Posted: November 18 2007 at 13:30
So...what exactly are you complaining about then?
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Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: November 18 2007 at 20:26
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Just added a French band to Tech/Extreme that you guys might want to check out...Gorod.
Great stuff if you like good progressive death metal. ------------- |
Posted By: ProgBagel
Date Posted: November 18 2007 at 20:41
Wow nice, I love these guys!! |