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tszirmay
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Posted: July 30 2008 at 17:04 |
Hey Micky , d'ya know I was lucky to witness the very last Hawkwind gig with Lemmy , twas in Montreal Cegep Maisonneuve (73?-74?) Cant remember exactly but I have read that he was busted the next day and fired by Brock (bad move for Hawkfans but what a new start for Kilminster!) . As I mentioned already, I was unable to listen to anything for 2 days , so deep was the hypnosis. Er r..........and loud.....
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A B Negative
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Posted: July 30 2008 at 16:12 |
Hawkwind. they've been my favourite band for nearly 30 years.
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Toaster Mantis
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Posted: July 30 2008 at 14:07 |
micky wrote:
Lemmy ... greater than all Kansas put together hahhah
Space Ritual... greater than all Kansas albums put together
has anyone from Kansas inspired these words of wisdom....
(ultracool proghead)Who'd win in a wrestling match, Lemmy or God?
(member of the PA's dope smokers genre team) Lemmy?
[imitates a game show buzzer]
(geek wearing a Rush shirt ) God?
Wrong, dickhead, trick question. Lemmy *IS* God.
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Zargus
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Posted: July 30 2008 at 12:18 |
Hawkwind, but Kansas seems pretty nice to but i havent heard so much from em... still i have to agree with Micky, Hawkwind hade Lemmy (if only for a few years), thats pretty hard to beat!  (im a big Motörhead fan, but who aint?)
Edited by Zargus - July 30 2008 at 12:20
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Petrovsk Mizinski
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Posted: July 30 2008 at 08:10 |
Hawkwind
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fusionfreak
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Posted: July 30 2008 at 08:06 |
Hawkwind is one of my favourite bands(it's certainly due to Gorgeous Miss Stacia videos!).Actually I
enjoy their hippie style,heavy space rock sound and lyrics.Moreover I always feel away in deep space
or time corridors.But let's give credit to Song for America or Proto Kaw's first recordings(awesome)
and I think that Two for the show new rendition will be one of my next buys.
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micky
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Posted: July 30 2008 at 08:04 |
Lemmy ... greater than all Kansas put together hahhah
Space Ritual... greater than all Kansas albums put together
has anyone from Kansas inspired these words of wisdom....
(ultracool proghead)Who'd win in a wrestling match, Lemmy or God?
(member of the PA's dope smokers genre team) Lemmy?
[imitates a game show buzzer]
(geek wearing a Rush shirt ) God?
Wrong, dickhead, trick question. Lemmy *IS* God.
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MovingPictures07
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Posted: July 30 2008 at 07:56 |
Kansas!!
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Epignosis
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Posted: July 30 2008 at 06:59 |
Give me strong composition any day. Kansas it is.
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Blacksword
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Posted: July 30 2008 at 05:36 |
I voted for Hawkwind, as I know more of their stuff and it's generally given me more pleasure than the Kansas I have heard.
That said, this is a case of chalk and cheese. The two bands cant really be compared fairly. Kansas are clearly better musicans, and less prone to half filling their albums up with farting osscilators, white noise and bits of old live bootlegs that are basically unlistenable..
I still prefer Hawkwind, though. There's no accounting for taste..  I got alot of pleasure exploring HW albums as a teenager. The pleasure of not knowing if you were going to get a masterpiece of psychedelic proto punk prog, or just a steaming pile of crap!
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Certif1ed
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Posted: July 30 2008 at 04:05 |
If I was judging on music alone, it'd be a tough call.
So I'll just judge based on the fact that I've seen Hawkwind loads of times, and they've always been mesmerising - especially at the Stonehenge free festivals back in the 1980s. Man. That was something else.
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Posted: July 30 2008 at 03:56 |
As many have said, it's really tough to compare these 2 as they are so different. My personal preference is Hawkwind, and that is no offence to Kansas.
This really would have been an interesting gig with these 2 back in the 70s. As Ivan said, about as far apart as possible in the prog spectrum. Having said that, I once saw The Cardiacs support Marillion, 2 bands that are also very different. I really liked The Cardiacs, the shame the rest of the audience ( Manchester Apollo) did not!
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ghost_of_morphy
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Posted: July 30 2008 at 03:48 |
This is definitely apples vs. oranges.
That said, my vote goes to Hawkwind. I find most Hawkwind difficult to get into (the exceptions would Hall of the Mountain Grill and Sonic Attack) but ultimately rewarding. I find most Kansas to be utterly without merit (the exceptions would be Point of Know Return and about half of Leftoverture.)
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iguana
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Posted: July 30 2008 at 03:34 |
apples vs. oranges once more ...
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progressive rock and rural tranquility don't match. true or false?
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Hercules
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Posted: July 30 2008 at 03:22 |
I saw Hawkwind live in the early 70s and it left me mentally scarred for life. They were bloody awful, to put it mildly. And Stacia did nothing for me, not surprisingly.
So Kansas get my vote!
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Mellotron Storm
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Posted: July 29 2008 at 23:42 |
Hawkwind for me as well. Just prefer that psychedelic style of music better,and Hawkwind did it very well. Besides i always vote the same way tszirmay does.
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Logan
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Posted: July 29 2008 at 23:15 |
Well, the logic, or reason behind the poll is:
Yorkie X wrote:
Idea inspired by me reading that Kansas supported Hawkwind in concert early in their career. |
I find that interesting because they are so different. I wonder what Kansas thought of Stacia? I don't expect in the 80's when Kerry Livgren became a born-again Christian, he would have liked to play with Stacia (I mean open for Stacia, or have Stacia open for him) with Hawkwind. But this would have been early days, of course. Hippies and country-boys together; very progressive.
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Garion81
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Posted: July 29 2008 at 23:04 |
Kansas hands down for me BUT I have to agree with Ivan these are too very different styles. Hard to compare. I am only choosing my favorite.
The first time I saw Kansas they opened for the Kinks. Talk about a contrast in styles!
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Posted: July 29 2008 at 22:46 |
Now, this is a weird poll.
- Hawkwind are the kings of late Psyche and early Space music, the princes of jamming, I just can imagine them in a Pub covered by pot and cigarrette smoke with a naked lady (Stacia) dancing in front of them, a product for an elite.
- Kansas in the ther hand are one of the Prog bands with a more concrete style, they sound clearly as what they are Symphonic + Hard Rock + Country music, no jamming, just srong melodies, a product for everybody.
If I had thought in two bands that have nothing in commion, probably would had chosen this two.
Iván
BTW: My vote goes for Kansas, because I like their music, but still don't find any logic.
Edited by Ivan_Melgar_M - July 30 2008 at 17:32
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horsewithteeth11
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Posted: July 29 2008 at 21:58 |
E-Dub wrote:
The boys from Topeka. No question.
E
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