Not your typical front lawn decor

Tony.... shame on you bro... Not funny.

America is NOT the only country being attacked by terrorists. It's not simply, "Hate America." It's clearly about the Westernization of the Middle East. Spain, Russia, France, Germany, U.K. and Israel have ALL had attacks. It's a WORLD issue.  

The Mullahs control over people and their traditional ways were slipping away. Religion IS their government. Women DON'T get to vote. Children DON'T get to read about world history, fictional literature, sports, music and all those things you and I love so much. They see Israel first as having a negative impact. US and Europe are close behind.

Imagine, on a microscopic scale, you have a community that is tightly control, under your power. Another neighborhood sprouts up on the next block, but they have few controls. People are allowed to be free, do as they wish, seem to always have fun, dress very scantily..... you get the picture, Suddenly, your children want to act like them. Your wife wants to have a say in family issues. You complain to the neighbors, but they give you money & say, "be like us." Some of the people in your neighborhood start moving to their neighborhood or inviting THOSE people of for barbecues. So you build a wall to keep your children and wife away. You shut them off from the real world... you grow angry. You want them to stop, to go away.... you attack.

Yeah, it's simplistic, but I really see that as a REAL motivation.

gdub411 wrote: ....not expect the members from the USA not to be angry is beyond me.

That's something I literally don't understand - how the deaths of one's countrymen can be more upsetting than the deaths of anyone else. There must have been people in Canada closer to NYC than people in the US. It doesn't seem at all a rational sort of patriotism I would call myself patriotic, but I don't care about the people in England any more than the people anywhere else. I love my country because it brought me up, and because of its culture and heritage, and I don't think the majority of people today contribute to any of that.

Hangedman wrote: The thing that gets me about the 9/11 incident is I never heard any american person, media or otherwise, ask WHY it happened. There was no questioning, only people demanding eradication. Killing everyone you suspect could be a threat is ultimately going to change NOTHING. People need to think about why such an atrocity would happen, think why there would be enough people who hate the US so much they would go through with this. Yes its smart to try and tear down the organization that did it that much I agree, but to coexist you need to compromise. (Not with al-qeada, DONT misunderstand me, i mean the rest of the world in general). As for the lawn ornaments, I think its ridiculous and pompous. Like in that persons mind they are challenging someone with those pillars. Probably thinking something along the lines of "Lets see those terrorists knock THESE down." but likely much more racist.

You must be kidding... I think everyone in NYC asked why.. and we wanted answers... so maybe you should research those stupid things before you write them...

I see you've already built your own propaganda in your head regarding what you think American's wanted.  I have yet to hear anyone who was in the Trade Center or who lost family member's in the Trade Center cry out for eradication of anyone.  And if we were just in this to take out anyone who threatened us... then there wouldn't be much left of Afghanistan or Iran... but then we haven't touched them have we.  Even Khadafy's still running around in one piece.... 

And we know why they hate us... we are on top and we represent evil to them... we care about their enemies, we care about and want more for their women, we live in the 21st Century, while they continue to live in the past... we threaten their manhood, we threaten their religion which is the center of their control anyway... otherwise we threaten their control... we've got that...

As far as the lawn ornament... how do you know this house doesn't belong to a family of someone who was killed in the WTC ?... maybe its a tribute to a fallen love one.  We can't assume just because we think its morbid, to understand the reasoning behind what others do.  Thats usually where all the problems begin...

The thing that gets me about the 9/11 incident is I never heard any american person, media or otherwise, ask WHY it happened. There was no questioning, only people demanding eradication. Killing everyone you suspect could be a threat is ultimately going to change NOTHING. People need to think about why such an atrocity would happen, think why there would be enough people who hate the US so much they would go through with this. Yes its smart to try and tear down the organization that did it that much I agree, but to coexist you need to compromise. (Not with al-qeada, DONT misunderstand me, i mean the rest of the world in general).

As for the lawn ornaments, I think its ridiculous and pompous. Like in that persons mind they are challenging someone with those pillars. Probably thinking something along the lines of "Lets see those terrorists knock THESE down." but likely much more racist.

gdub411 wrote: Shouldn't you say greedy school boards who'll find a dishonest way of pocketing the money for themselves and leave very little for the benefit of children's education? Also, shouldn't you say the free loaders of america rather than public welfare?

I hate it when people argue like that, so lets turn it around shall we?

"Shouldn't you say greedy school boards who'll find a dishonest way of pocketing the money for themselves and leave very little for the benefit of children's education?" - Couldnt the same be said for the military, or anything funded in part by the goverment for that matter? Do you know how little teachers/principals are paid? These people are pretty much sacrificing themselves to try make sure our children can learn something, and there is only going to be less and less. So the only people who dont agree are people who dont care about children and would rather an excuse to hate other people.

"Also, shouldn't you say the free loaders of america rather than public welfare?" - There are a lot of people who cheat the welfare system who really have no excuse, and these people piss me off to no end. But also there are people who need it (single mothers with new borns etc..). I lived in poverty when for about 2 years when i was younger because my mother was too proud to accept welfare, it would have helped a lot(we did manage, and my mother did bounce back and shes doing fine, shes a landlord now). I know a lot of people who were hardly raised because thier single parent was always working to pay bills.

Now a lot of that is pretty extreme and unerasonable, just like what gdub posted (im sorry but what you wrote was an attack on my beliefs, and even if it was because you were sore over the innapropriate picture on the first page i cant let it go). As time goes on my view on right wing people has changed a lot, many of my views have become right wing in nature. About a year ago because of the way my life worked out I saw right-wingers as unreliable, self centered snakes who would gladly watch thier own children starve if it meant not having to part with money. Ive matured quite a bit now mind you, but sometimes when something is said that I find ignorant or completely one sided (much like my respones following the blue) my blood boils.

It would actually be funnier if the towers were burning, and little GI-Joe action figures were seen falling from the highest floor.

(Sue me.)