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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 06 2008 at 07:06
I actually went out and bought a record cleaning kit made by ''Protec' that includes a record brush,cleaning fluid and stylus cleaner.
I haven't use the fluid yet,but will probably do so on a guiny pig old LP that I test new turn tables on.
As for the methods of cleaning up old Lps, everybody seems to have their own ideas.Some say use tab water and dry it up with soft cloth,others are against use of an liquid at all.
Some champion the idea of dry cloth and brushes...
Very misleading!Confused
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 06 2008 at 07:16
Btw,any of you vinyl junkies buy stuff from E-bay,GEMM and other on line dealers?
Lots of rare stuff but VERY expensive--counting shipping costs.
 
I find most of my LPs in thrift stores,pawn shops and second hand record shops.There are lots of them in my area(Montreal).I was able to snatch descent copys of
Starcastle ''Real to Real'' 1.00$
Saxon ''Denim and Leather'' 3$
Barde ''S.T' (Quebecois,trad/folk band) 5$
Lighthouse ''Suny Days'' 3$
Rare Earth ''Live''(Pack sack cover) 3$
Dompierre ''s.t.'' (Quebecois arranger) 1$
Dragon(New Zealand) 'Are You Old Enough''1$
Spooky Tooth ''You Broke my Heart,I busted your Jaw''3$
and a few others,most of them less than 3$.
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 06 2008 at 10:02
When i was living in England it was much easer finding those lovely old vinyls as there are many good record shops scattered around the country, but now i have moved to Canada not so easy finding them, tho  there are a couple of good record stores in near by Windsor  but they dont have all that much in the way of Prog but have damn fine JAzz selection which i love, so since i have been here in Canada i have used the internet a  lot for buying records, you can still find some good bargains, just takes a lot of searching , but would much rather
look around a good old record store any day,   nothing like spending a couple hours browsing a good record store, the Only thing i miss about England is the record shops, last time i went back home i bought back 20 albums with me, 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 06 2008 at 13:39

I just bought a vinyl copy of Genesis Live at a used record shop outside of Chicago for $10. Instead of the usual cover with the whole band on stage and Gabriel in the Magog costume, it has close up of his head with the flower costume on. It's so awesome.

I also bought Gentle Giant - Playing the Fool for $10 at that store too.

There was another store about a mile away from that one that seemed to have everything, including almost every Can and Gentle Giant album. Unfortunately, all of their records are priced at $30+ which is way too much for me to even consider. If any of you happen to be from the Chicago area I could give you the name of it (I can't remember it offhand).



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 06 2008 at 19:12
Here's something that I was wondering about fans of vinyl.  I was in an antique store a few weeks ago and they had a bin of vinyl that contained a bunch of Kansas and Rush records (judging by the covers I'd guess somewhere in the VG range) for $10-$12 each.  How many vinyl fans would be willing to pay this price for vinyl when you can get the remastered CDs for less?  Or how many would just be buying those albums as collectors items, with no intent of playing them?  Or how many just think they are overpriced?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 06 2008 at 19:25
Originally posted by Rubidium Rubidium wrote:

Here's something that I was wondering about fans of vinyl.  I was in an antique store a few weeks ago and they had a bin of vinyl that contained a bunch of Kansas and Rush records (judging by the covers I'd guess somewhere in the VG range) for $10-$12 each.  How many vinyl fans would be willing to pay this price for vinyl when you can get the remastered CDs for less?  Or how many would just be buying those albums as collectors items, with no intent of playing them?  Or how many just think they are overpriced?



Those records are overpriced.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 06 2008 at 20:08
That's kind of what I was thinking, but I'm only looking for good deals and am not willing to pay more than one or two dollars for an album, unless it's really rare.  But then again it was an antique store and not a record store, so that might have something to do with the prices.

The only reason I went was because they were supposedly selling all of their records 10 for a dollar because they are moving to a smaller location and want to get rid of their vinyl.  They only had one tiny box of albums that were 50 cents (everything else was priced as marked) and they were so scratched that they could never play and the covers were two unconnected pieces of cardboard, so there wasn't even any value as collectibles, which is too bad because they had a copy of Steppenwolf's second album, which I would not have minded buying.

For whatever it's worth, there was a copy of Yellow Submarine in the same bin as the Rush and Kansas albums being sold for $65.  When I saw that I decided that there was no point in looking any further.  I have a feeling that they'll be stuck with their vinyl for quite a while...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 06 2008 at 23:05
The Rush and Kansas LPs usually go for a few bucks.
I ALWAYS buy LPs with intent of playing them.This is not stamps or sports card collecting.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 06 2008 at 23:20
Yeah, most of the records I have bought haven't been over $5 except for some rarer things (in this area anyway) like Van der Graaf Generator and Gentle Giant. But Rush and Kansas should be easy to find for less than $5.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 07 2008 at 03:09
Originally posted by BroSpence BroSpence wrote:

Originally posted by Rubidium Rubidium wrote:

Just be warned that when looking for cleaning solutions on the internet, every single person seems to swear by a different method and discount all methods used by others.  I'd recommend going to a flea market or a thrift store and look for some really cheap dirty records to test these methods on.  That way if some crazy guy tells you to clean your records with 15 M hydrochloric acid, you'll burn a whole through a Herb Alpert record rather than something you actually care about...


Lord knows we need less of THOSE.
 
 
I like Herb Alpert... Embarrassed


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 07 2008 at 14:14
Originally posted by Certif1ed Certif1ed wrote:

Originally posted by BroSpence BroSpence wrote:

Originally posted by Rubidium Rubidium wrote:

Just be warned that when looking for cleaning solutions on the internet, every single person seems to swear by a different method and discount all methods used by others.  I'd recommend going to a flea market or a thrift store and look for some really cheap dirty records to test these methods on.  That way if some crazy guy tells you to clean your records with 15 M hydrochloric acid, you'll burn a whole through a Herb Alpert record rather than something you actually care about...


Lord knows we need less of THOSE.
 
 
I like Herb Alpert... Embarrassed


I'm not saying Herb Alpert is bad per se (though not my cup of tea), just that I can't walk into a thrift store without finding three copies of "Whipped Cream and Other Delights" and "Going Places".  I wonder if there is an ebay market for beaten up copies of these records.  I could make a fortune...Tongue
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 07 2008 at 23:25
I'm gonna make a few jeaulous here,
 
One of my friends just decided to get rid of his record collection--his lost my HUGE gain!Tongue
 
He lets all his LPs go for 2 bucks.Here's some of the records I was able to buy;
 
All 10 CC discography.
Sloche,both.
Beatles;White album,Abbey road,Revolver,Let it Be,Rubber Soul,yellow Submarine
Santana;Many.
Eclipse(French-canadian space rock band)
Roxy Music;Stranded,same,Country Life,ect...
 
And many more....
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 15 2008 at 13:33
Just noticed this thread.
 I`ve been collecting vinyl since 1973. At last count I got to 3,500 and gave up. I don`t keep anything in anty particular order and keep on discovering stuff that I didn`t even know I had. Some of it is still in the original wrapping. Perhaps the biggest haul I ever made was buying this guy`s entire Amon Duul collection for 50 bucks back in `79. All German imports no inferior North American crap. I don`t buy albums because they`re rare or anything but for the love of the music. Long live vinyl.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 15 2008 at 14:05
I started my vinyl collection with "Absent Lovers - King Crimson" this is a live album recorded in 1984, one of their last performances done on vinyl (I know I spent too much on this), and I haven't been able to stop buying records since. I recently picked up "Days of Future Passed - The Moody Blues", "Selling England by the Pound(mint condition), A Trick of the Tail and The Lamb lies down on Broadway - Genesis", 2 ELP records which I don't want to type out, 2 Mahavishnu Orchestra records I can't recall the name of right now and "Aqualung - Jethro Tull".

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Originally posted by Hootywho Hootywho wrote:

I started my vinyl collection with "Absent Lovers - King Crimson" this is a live album recorded in 1984, one of their last performances done on vinyl (I know I spent too much on this), and I haven't been able to stop buying records since. I recently picked up "Days of Future Passed - The Moody Blues", "Selling England by the Pound, A Trick of the Tail and The Lamb lies down on Broadway - Genesis", 2 ELP records which I don't want to type out, 2 Mahavishnu Orchestra records I can't recall the name of right now and "Aqualung - Jethro Tull".
Wow ! Didn`t know that one was on vinyl. I was at both shows here in Montréal in August `84 and we knew it was going to be made into a record because Fripp or Belew said so on stage but we didn`t know it woud take so long probably because that was the last show they did unti`they reformed with the double trio in the 90s.
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Just noticed this thread.
 I`ve been collecting vinyl since 1973. At last count I got to 3,500 and gave up. I don`t keep anything in anty particular order and keep on discovering stuff that I didn`t even know I had. Some of it is still in the original wrapping. Perhaps the biggest haul I ever made was buying this guy`s entire Amon Duul collection for 50 bucks back in `79. All German imports no inferior North American crap. I don`t buy albums because they`re rare or anything but for the love of the music. Long live vinyl.
 
I started buying records back in the late 70's.Then switched to Cd in the 90's and only recently did I came back to LPs--but still buying Cds.
I always purchase LPs or CDs as a mean to add up to my ever growing library of mostly prog records.I always have in mind to listen to the album,be it on CD or vinyl.No point in purchasing a record for the sake of it,like stamps or sports cards collectors do.At least that's how I see it.A record is a media made to be listened to.I don't care if it's rare or not, either. I don't see my records as trophies.As long as I like what I ear,usually it's enough to make me wanna buy it.
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 15 2008 at 18:27
Originally posted by The Rock The Rock wrote:

Originally posted by Vibrationbaby Vibrationbaby wrote:

Just noticed this thread.
 I`ve been collecting vinyl since 1973. At last count I got to 3,500 and gave up. I don`t keep anything in anty particular order and keep on discovering stuff that I didn`t even know I had. Some of it is still in the original wrapping. Perhaps the biggest haul I ever made was buying this guy`s entire Amon Duul collection for 50 bucks back in `79. All German imports no inferior North American crap. I don`t buy albums because they`re rare or anything but for the love of the music. Long live vinyl.
 
I started buying records back in the late 70's.Then switched to Cd in the 90's and only recently did I came back to LPs--but still buying Cds.
I always purchase LPs or CDs as a mean to add up to my ever growing library of mostly prog records.I always have in mind to listen to the album,be it on CD or vinyl.No point in purchasing a record for the sake of it,like stamps or sports cards collectors do.At least that's how I see it.A record is a media made to be listened to.I don't care if it's rare or not, either. I don't see my records as trophies.As long as I like what I ear,usually it's enough to make me wanna buy it.
 


I have to admit that I'm guilty of buying some records for the sake of having them as collectibles (collectible to me at least, since they're not in great condition and hence not worth much money).  The other day I got copies of Close to the Edge, Point of Know Return, and The Grand Illusion even though I own all three on CDs.  But they cost me 10 cents each, so I didn't exactly dent my wallet...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 19 2008 at 07:19
Yeah, it's not a terribly common album, I paid 40$ for it (much more than most of mine), my usual price I pay is between 4-12$, mint condition Selling England by the Pound - Genesis cost me ....9$?. I realise that 40$ is not much in perspective as I have seen Dün go for 500$.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 20 2008 at 10:18
Originally posted by Rubidium Rubidium wrote:

Here's something that I was wondering about fans of vinyl.  I was in an antique store a few weeks ago and they had a bin of vinyl that contained a bunch of Kansas and Rush records (judging by the covers I'd guess somewhere in the VG range) for $10-$12 each.  How many vinyl fans would be willing to pay this price for vinyl when you can get the remastered CDs for less?  Or how many would just be buying those albums as collectors items, with no intent of playing them?  Or how many just think they are overpriced?

Record stores seem to generally overcharge, but it depends.  It seems thrift shops and large book sales are the cheapest place to get vinyl (at an annual book sale here, there are boxes and boxes of LPs that go for 50 cents each, no matter what).  Rarer LPs you probably have to use eBay or something, I don't really like spending much more just for an LP when I can get a CD but if they're the same price I usually go for the LP.

My experience with cheap vinyl has been positive so far.  I don't take the albums out and look at them, I just try to judge by the cover.  I've only gotten a few that don't play really good, but they're not bad at all.  The selection seems to be pretty subpar, so I browse through stuff really fast.  Certain things, like Moody Blues, Rush, Kansas, ELP, etc. are extremely easy to find cheap but after a while it becomes harder and harder to find cheap LPs that you care about and don't already have.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 20 2008 at 22:00
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My experience with cheap vinyl has been positive so far.  I don't take the albums out and look at them, I just try to judge by the cover.  I've only gotten a few that don't play really good, but they're not bad at all.  The selection seems to be pretty subpar, so I browse through stuff really fast.  Certain things, like Moody Blues, Rush, Kansas, ELP, etc. are extremely easy to find cheap but after a while it becomes harder and harder to find cheap LPs that you care about and don't already have.


I always check the records before I get them.  I recently got a cheap copy of Big Brother and the Holding Company's Cheap Thrills.  The cover was in pretty good shape (better condition than what you'd normally find in a thrift store) but it was so scratched that it skipped every ten seconds.  I only paid a dollar for it so it wasn't a big deal, but it was disappointing nonetheless.  I was at a thrift store yesterday and found a Stephen Stills album that I was going to buy, but upon looking at the vinyl I discovered that there was a large chunk of it missing (it looked like somebody took a bite out of it).  Also, I've bought albums before only to discover that the previous owner stuck the wrong record in the wrong cover.  These probably aren't problems that you'd encounter at a record store, but at a thrift store some care should be taken.

I'm finding myself buying a lot of cheap albums by artists that I wouldn't normally consider listening to.  For example, right now I'm listening to a Rod Stewart album from the 80's.  Not great, but for a dollar I'm willing to take a chance.  You never know what I might end up enjoying and if nothing else it's a cheap way to broaden my musical horizons.
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