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    Posted: May 09 2008 at 09:55
Don't you think that it's time to put Avantasia in PA?
 
Latest album surely progs....
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Absolutely! Tobias Sammett is a prog/metal genius.
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Points: 4202 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 21 2008 at 03:50
Sometimes one can judge a book by its cover:



And pleeease, no more suggestions looking like this. Just thinking about what this sounds like makes me ill.
 
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Points: 17493 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 21 2008 at 19:42
Judging an album just by its cover doesn't seem that advanced a position to me... Many prog classics wouldn't be here....
 
But I agree, AVANTASIA is not prog. Not because their covers, but because of their music.
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Points: 4202 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 22 2008 at 05:29
See, sometimes I don't need no advanced position to tell that this ain't prog. I judge Barbara Cartland books by the covers too. Shame on me! I just knew there was no way in hell progressive sound could come out of that D&D boardgame lookalike.


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Points: 21156 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 22 2008 at 05:35
^ there were quite a few classic Prog bands who picked up fantasy related topics ... Lord of the Rings/Tolkien is only one obvious example.
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Points: 4702 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 22 2008 at 05:35
That cover is progressive, in a sense - it goes places no other cover has gone before (not that any other cover would want to...)
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Points: 4202 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 22 2008 at 05:37
I know Mike. that's why I wrote sometimes. I'm very good at spotting these subtle nuances.
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^ Nevertheless emphasising that word implied that for you that is the case here ... that the cover rules out any chances of that album being progressive.

BTW: I think that it's quite cheesy, but cheese and prog have a history of going well together ... Wink
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Points: 4202 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 22 2008 at 05:57
Well, I leave it up to all of you to stay "openminded" about operametalsuggestions looking like this.
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^ I'm actually against their inclusion, in case you were wondering (as is shown in the prog metal chart). Smile
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Points: 13244 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 22 2008 at 07:22
Moving this thread where it belongs: Suggest New Bands/Artists.

And while I'm at it: it would be interesting to see bands suggested in the forum judged by their music, not by whether or not one likes the album cover. I have no problem with the cover being discussed, but it seems these things are only brought up here in a negative sense, and we have enough of that in these forums already. Stern%20Smile
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Points: 4202 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 22 2008 at 07:48
Its already been done? By who? I thought this was the first time someone dissmissed a suggested band for the look of their albumcovers?   
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Points: 21156 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 22 2008 at 08:31
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@admins: Couldn't you get Max to add a nice facepalm emoticon to the current ones?Big%20smile
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Points: 13244 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 22 2008 at 08:41
We can always ask for that, Mike... Wink

@Rocktopus: don't push it....
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Points: 12288 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 13 2008 at 15:21
Avantasia is currently approved for prog-related.
 
If there's anyone with a bio, band picture, website, etc, feel free to send me and I'll add them. Albums could be added later one by one.
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Points: 21156 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 13 2008 at 15:25
^ Is there any explanation why this band is cleared for addition and other, more deserving metal bands for prog related are not? So far Iron Maiden are the only prog-related metal band in the archives ... now it's Iron Maiden and Avantasia. Am I the only one who can't see any logic behind it?



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Points: 12288 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 13 2008 at 15:32
Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

^ Is there any explanation why this band is cleared for addition and other, more deserving metal bands for prog related are not? So far Iron Maiden are the only prog-related metal band in the archives ... now it's Iron Maiden and Avantasia. Am I the only one who can't see any logic behind it?



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I cannot remember any rule stating that Iron Maiden should be the only prog-related metal band, Mike.  
 
Actually, considering the number of new metal bands (and others not-so-new) it's almost sure that more metal or metal-like bands will be added to related. Smile
 
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Points: 35804 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 13 2008 at 15:43
I'd thought that some of the "more deserving metal bands for prog related" are already in Prog Metal.  LOL Wink
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^ so far the PMT has been avoiding/postponing prog related metal additions ... and for good reasons, at least I used to think. At PA I've learned to expect the unexpected, but I must say I'm really floored by this decision.

BTW: I know all the Avantasia albums - in my opinion they're not only not prog, but also not even prog related. I know that some disagree ... but the same is true for Metallica (there are many supporters and many who oppose it). Only a few days ago I was talking about what can make music prog (or prog related) in the Coldplay thread ... unfortunately Avantasia is one of those bands/projects which use prog elements to embellish their music without actually making it progressive. That such a band is chosen over more worthy additions simply frustrates me.

Well, if we add Avantasia then we should also be prepared to add Iced Earth, Dragonforce, Sonata Arctica or Fairyland.
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