Gene Simmons insults Radiohead

I sort of appreciate it when a band does nothing for a crowd on purpose. KC are the ultimate example with Fripp confiscating camcorders and stuff. I think KC's next live album should be called "STFU if You Don't Like It"

listen wrote: Different types of music call for different kinds of atmosphere. Do classical orchestras call for explosions and visuals?

The problem with this statement is that the second sentence is rendered invalid by the first. No, orchestras don't have laser light shows, but classical isn't rock. I hate to get all Lester Bangs on prog rock (his ultimate nemesis), but rock is supposed to be exciting. Even the soft prog I listen to stimulates me in some way.

I think it's presumptuous and naive to say that all music shows should be expressive in the same way, and it ignores that there is a whole range of human expression that can come through music, not all of which involve "blow[ing] sh*t up".

But the only human expression that will come through a static rock show is arrogance and superiority. As for your claim about visuals, the three greatest live performers of all time are James Brown, Bruce Springsteen, and The Who. None have fancy visuals and only The Who ever blew stuff up, and that was never in a theatrical way. What they DID do was play with passion and raw energy that they could ride the vibe of a crowd and manipulate it, make it rise and fall with each vocal undulation or each frantic dance move. When a band just walks on stage and plays their studio material by rote (KC might not jump around, but by God they improv like jazzmen, who I identify them with anyway), I don't get worked up for that band. I also hate the school of thought first founded by Zeppelin (a band that I've never understood the live praise for since even their killer live albums show a mass level of disconnect. Yes the playing is great, beyond great, but they have so much macho superiority that video of them leaves me cold) that the band should act like the crowd isn't even there. For the amount of money it costs, you damn well better acknowledge them.

amen brother T...  you go to a live show ..... to a KISS show to....party.. to see  50 yr old biker chicks  lose their shirts... for the whole experience of the spectacle of rock music....not  a field trip for frickin philosophy class hahhaha.

Long live Gene.. and Kiss... what music needs to everything in perspective


Edited by micky - June 13 2008 at 18:31

micky wrote: amen brother T... you go to a live show ..... to a KISS show to....party.. to see 50 yr old biker chicks lose their shirts... for the whole experience of the spectacle of rock music....not a field trip for frickin philosophy class hahhaha. Long live Gene.. and Kiss... what music needs to everything in perspective

ahh, so it's just cause Radiohead doesn't have nude chicks there in their live shows. Now I get it.

Then Gene is RIGHT! If no nude chicks in concert then the concert is bad!

micky wrote: cacho wrote: micky wrote: amen brother T... you go to a live show ..... to a KISS show to....party.. to see 50 yr old biker chicks lose their shirts... for the whole experience of the spectacle of rock music....not a field trip for frickin philosophy class hahhaha. Long live Gene.. and Kiss... what music needs to everything in perspective ahh, so it's just cause Radiohead doesn't have nude chicks there in their live shows. Now I get it. Then Gene is RIGHT! If no nude chicks in concert then the concert is bad! ahhhh... thus we come to 'MIcky's 5 laws of the truly great live concert experience'...1. Breasts... and lots of them2. Vomit ... deduct points if it is not your own.. even more if it ends up on you...3. Pain... music so loud your ears hurt4. Blood.. deduct points if it is your own... deduct even more if you have to be carried out on a stretcher.5. Traffic.. deduct points if you are home in less than an hour... add points if it takes more than 3 hours..

hahahahaha. EXCELLENT rules, someday when I grow up I'll aply them to all my concerts. Some clappies to Micky's 5 Law!
Though some concerts would be rare to aply them, imagine if I would aply those rules on my Al Di Meola, Jean Luc Ponty and Stanley Clarke(acoustic) concert! That would be -100, I think, what do you think?

Well I think the next step is obvious for Radiohead: make spacesuits.

micky wrote: cacho wrote: micky wrote: amen brother T... you go to a live show ..... to a KISS show to....party.. to see 50 yr old biker chicks lose their shirts... for the whole experience of the spectacle of rock music....not a field trip for frickin philosophy class hahhaha. Long live Gene.. and Kiss... what music needs to everything in perspective ahh, so it's just cause Radiohead doesn't have nude chicks there in their live shows. Now I get it. Then Gene is RIGHT! If no nude chicks in concert then the concert is bad! ahhhh...  thus we come to 'MIcky's 5  laws of the truly great live concert experience'... 1. Breasts... and lots of them 2. Vomit ...  deduct points if it is not your own..  even more if it ends up on you... 3. Pain...  music so loud your ears hurt 4. Blood..  deduct points if it is your own... deduct even more if you have to be carried out on a stretcher. 5. Traffic..  deduct points if you are home in less than an hour... add points if it takes more than 3 hours..

How is that out of line at all? I think you're being far too sensitive about this. It's hardly even an insult if taken seriously, and I don't think he was being completely serious.

Kiss showman ship is very good if only Ace didn't play so many bum notes ...   bum notes are not what I call good for the show.   Gene needs to refrain from saying this stuff about other bands that is no way to get publicity.  

Let's look at the facts, which are #1, that he is a has been, and therefore #2, he needs to stir up some interest in his 'name recognition'.  So why not trash a reasonably popular contemporary band.  It will get the odd headline or two.