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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 21 2008 at 18:15
Er, how about Elton John trying out for Gentle Giant, but being turned down when he played Derek some of the songs he was writing. It is true. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 21 2008 at 18:27
Originally posted by Syzygy Syzygy wrote:

Originally posted by clarke2001 clarke2001 wrote:

We heard that before but...I'm really curious about how HELP would sound.

Iommy's guitar sound in Tull. Yummy!
 
BTW: did anyone heard Jimi Hendrix/Jim Morrison album? Any good?
 
 
 
Iommi's brief spell in Tull included their appearance in the Rolling Stones Rock and Roll Circus, if you're interested - I think it's available on DVD.
BUT, I do believe they lip-synched that performance...the video is on youtube and it's the album track, but it IS weird to see Iommi in the band.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 21 2008 at 18:41
Very cool(interesting) thread we got here! for the OP

Since I'm quite young I really dunno stuff like this, but I'll keep contact, since I've read every post, and it's more than just interesting, keep up the good work, love it!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 21 2008 at 19:26
Hendrix and ELP would have been prog Nirvana...   love what  Hendrix did with Traffic.   Such a loss to the world of prog.. he was heading that way me thinks...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 21 2008 at 22:05
Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

Hendrix and ELP would have been prog Nirvana...   love what  Hendrix did with Traffic.   Such a loss to the world of prog.. he was heading that way me thinks...


That's a nice thought, I got that feeling (Hendrix heading in a more prog direction), too.  Can't quite see (hear) Hendrix in ELP in my mind's eye (ear). Tongue  HELP?

Ladies and gentlemen - Hendrix Emerson Lake and Palmer (for you slow folks). LOL


Edited by Slartibartfast - May 21 2008 at 22:14
Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 22 2008 at 00:20
^ No No NO, Hendrix never would've come before Emerson; EHLP would be more like it.  And all of Jimi's compositions would have a 2 minute moog solo tacked onto the end, just to remind you whose band it really isTongue
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 22 2008 at 00:22
There are a few I remember, probably some have been mentioned:
 
  1. Vangelis in Yes, the problem was not Jon, he was thrilled, but the rest of the band not, as a fact Jon played some albums with Vangelis some years after that audition
  2. Happy the Man was about to become the Peter Gabriel official band
  3. Elton John for Gentle Giant (as has been mentoioned) but also with King Crimson.
  4. Eddie Jobson with Yes, he even toured with them.
  5. Phil Collins auditioned with Yes, but became Genesis drummer instead.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 22 2008 at 04:41
Bill Bruford with Gong. he did a tour with them once, but did not become a member.
Pierre Moerlen with Magma. he and Christian Vander did not get along though. but what fantastic drumming that would have been with them being in one band



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 22 2008 at 05:53

 famous non prog replacement  when Mick Taylor left the Stones : guitarists who were  on the list Harvey Mandel (who played on Black & Blue), Rory Gallagher, Jeff Beck, Peter Frampton , Wayne Perkins (who payed also on B&B) and Ronnie Wood ( who got the job)

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 22 2008 at 07:38
Originally posted by CCVP CCVP wrote:

Originally posted by Yorkie X Yorkie X wrote:

Steve Walsh tried out on vocals when Jon Anderson split around the drama period (yes must of had progressive rocks in their heads hiring those buggles blokes instead)  walsh's voice was at its best around this period.  


Well, it didn't matter how hard they tried to find a substitute: they could not perform in UK and a significant part of Europe because of the audience reaction towards the new singer.In the UK, they cursed the new singer throughout the show wile throwing beer bottles and screaming: "we want Anderson!!!!!"
Not true, I saw Yes at Hammersmith Odeon on the Drama tour. Whilst it's true that Horn struggled on the high notes, there were no bottles and no cries of "we want Anderson".
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 22 2008 at 09:49
Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Originally posted by CCVP CCVP wrote:

Originally posted by Yorkie X Yorkie X wrote:

Steve Walsh tried out on vocals when Jon Anderson split around the drama period (yes must of had progressive rocks in their heads hiring those buggles blokes instead)  walsh's voice was at its best around this period.  


Well, it didn't matter how hard they tried to find a substitute: they could not perform in UK and a significant part of Europe because of the audience reaction towards the new singer.In the UK, they cursed the new singer throughout the show wile throwing beer bottles and screaming: "we want Anderson!!!!!"
Not true, I saw Yes at Hammersmith Odeon on the Drama tour. Whilst it's true that Horn struggled on the high notes, there were no bottles and no cries of "we want Anderson".


well, what i said was almost a direct quote from horn himself. I could not remember how he said it, but he said something very close to what i said. He was really traumatized by the european tour, specially with the UK tour. Dont remember the source though. . .
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 22 2008 at 11:17
Originally posted by MisterProg2112 MisterProg2112 wrote:

This isn't so much early days but does anyone remember when Satriani was in Deep Purple for a short amount of time?



yep. that was in late 1993 to 1994, when DPmk2 came to final loggerheads
with ritchie blackmore during the end of the “the battle rages on“ (25th anniv.)
tour – watch the “come hell or high water“-DVD (birmingham NEC) for some
delightful footage of ritchie acting like a right prat.

satriani was actually proposed by japanese promoter mr.udo to secure the
japan dates which were to follow. i don't think the pairing worked that
well (they toured together quite a bit in the following year and i saw the
show in hamburg which was very entertaining) musically but it was a first
opening of the floodgates for some new and more obscure stage material
that they were to continue with steve morse in the band after having to play
virtually the same set for ages (well, there was a change with joe lynn turner
at the mike but no one liked that version and period much so best skip that one...)

apparently they would have liked to continue together with satriani officially
as the new guitarist but there were issues with his solo record deal that got in the way.
progressive rock and rural tranquility don't match. true or false?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 22 2008 at 14:19
Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

Hendrix and ELP would have been prog Nirvana...   love what  Hendrix did with Traffic.   Such a loss to the world of prog.. he was heading that way me thinks...


The supposed HELP band is more media blow-up than reality. Emerson did talk to Mitchell about joining his new band. From there I have heard two different versions:
1) Mitchell turned it down and said Hendrix might be interested.
2) Mitchell was interested and wanted to bring on Jimi too, but Keith and Lake did not like the 'heavy' crowd that followed Mitch around.

From what I understand Keith was amused and honored that Hendrix would be interested, but never really took it seriously as an idea that would work.
Personally I would have liked to hear Hendrix with the young Jon Lord, that would have been incredible.

As far as where Hendrix was headed, the merging of "classical" influences was already happening in his music, but even more than that, he was heading towards the new jazz-rock, doing jams with Larry Young which could have easily lead to a project with Miles Davis, who was very interested in hooking up with Jimi.

Regarding the ongoing controversy of adding Jimi to proto-prog or prog related. I think the Experience band would be more appropriate because Mitchell has to be THE proto-prog drummer. You can hear his ideas in Bruford's playing as well Michael Giles,Clive Bunker and many others. Of course they all probably got that from Elvin Jones.

Regarding Vangelis and Yes, I believe I have heard that it turned out that Vangelis did not have the technical skills to handle their music. Vangelis has done some nice music, but I have never heard him play anything remotely similar to some of Yes's more demanding passages. I'm kind of suprised he even bothered to try out.

Edited by Easy Money - May 22 2008 at 19:39
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 22 2008 at 16:59
Rhitchie Blackmore wanted Doug Pinnick (King's X/Poundhound) to sing for DP in 1990 and Doug refused.
Jimmy Page played for a short while with Chris Squire and Alan White as XYZ (Ex-Yes-Zeppelin) in the early 80's. wouldn't that be something: 80's yes with Page (and Plant maybe)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 22 2008 at 19:33
Originally posted by clarke2001 clarke2001 wrote:

 
BTW: did anyone heard Jimi Hendrix/Jim Morrison album? Any good?
  
 
I have. don't waste yer money. It's just a bootleg of Hendrix and Morrison jamming in some nightclub with Johnny Winter and some other chaps. The sound is horrible, and Morrison is so drunk that all he does is scream and make funny noises.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 22 2008 at 21:45
Originally posted by Walker Walker wrote:

Originally posted by clarke2001 clarke2001 wrote:

 
BTW: did anyone heard Jimi Hendrix/Jim Morrison album? Any good?
  
 
I have. don't waste yer money. It's just a bootleg of Hendrix and Morrison jamming in some nightclub with Johnny Winter and some other chaps. The sound is horrible, and Morrison is so drunk that all he does is scream and make funny noises.

So it´s still better than most of the Doors material
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 23 2008 at 03:33
Originally posted by unclemeat69 unclemeat69 wrote:

Rhitchie Blackmore wanted Doug Pinnick (King's X/Poundhound) to sing for DP in 1990 and Doug refused.



that is odd! i would have loved to hear that version of KingxPurple!!!
but it is strange, given how vocal ritchie blackmore was of his opposition to
the funk and soul influences that hughes and coverdale brought to the
table in DPmkIII.

doug pinnick is an amazing vocalist. even when you're about to pigeonhole
him into some sort of black/soul/gospel/blues-clichee he comes up with
something completely new and raw and honest. plus, he is probably one
of the most genuine artists out there. and – would you believe it –
he's almost the same age as the guys in purple!
progressive rock and rural tranquility don't match. true or false?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 24 2008 at 06:51
Originally posted by el böthy el böthy wrote:

Originally posted by Walker Walker wrote:

Originally posted by clarke2001 clarke2001 wrote:

 
BTW: did anyone heard Jimi Hendrix/Jim Morrison album? Any good?
  
 
I have. don't waste yer money. It's just a bootleg of Hendrix and Morrison jamming in some nightclub with Johnny Winter and some other chaps. The sound is horrible, and Morrison is so drunk that all he does is scream and make funny noises.

So it´s still better than most of the Doors material
 
A friend of mine had a copy where (if I remember correctly) Morrison was credited with 'mumbling, abuse and harmonica' - that pretty much sums it up, plus the sound quality is crap even by bootleg standards.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 25 2008 at 06:19
Keyboard/violin wizard Eddie Jobson was supposed to join Yes instead of Kaye (before 90125 band was established). This could have been amazing line-up, also with those prominent instruments.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 26 2008 at 13:06

Anybody mention Rabin's early involvement with what would become Asia yet?

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