Almost hired!
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Topic: Almost hired!
Posted By: tszirmay
Subject: Almost hired!
Date Posted: May 20 2008 at 21:36
Throughout the last 40 years or so.. of Prog, there have been tons of auditions that never materialized into hirings . At times, groups resembled sports team with constant personnel changes, shuffling for a multitude of reasons. Do you know of any potentially interesting hirings that didn't work out? Fish replacing Gabriel? Stuart Nicholson replacing Fish in Marillion? True or not true? 
Elton John & Bryan Ferry allegedly tried out for ..... King Crimson , in the very early days (imagine that! or even better comment on it) . Vangelis almost joined Yes when Rick had to mend his cape for a while.
There was also a question of Emerson, Wetton, Bruford and some famous guitarist (no, not Jimi Hendrix!!!!) , anyone remember? ------------- I never post anything anywhere without doing more than basic research, often in depth. |
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Posted By: CCVP
Date Posted: May 20 2008 at 22:05
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Vagelis almost was Yes's keyboardist after Wakeman's departure, but things didn't worked out between him and Anderson. Also on Yes: on 70, when King Crimson was falling apart (after In the Wake of Poseidon release but before Lizard), Robert Fripp was called to play on Yes. However things did not worked out. So Fripp put a band together to record Lizard and, being thankful for the invitation to Yes, called Jon Anderson to sing on the song Lizard. -------------   
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Posted By: Yorkie X
Date Posted: May 20 2008 at 22:18
| Steve Walsh tried out on vocals when Jon Anderson split around the drama period (yes must of had progressive rocks in their heads hiring those buggles blokes instead) walsh's voice was at its best around this period. |
Posted By: CCVP
Date Posted: May 20 2008 at 22:26
Well, it didn't matter how hard they tried to find a substitute: they could not perform in UK and a significant part of Europe because of the audience reaction towards the new singer.In the UK, they cursed the new singer throughout the show wile throwing beer bottles and screaming: "we want Anderson!!!!!" -------------
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Yorkie X wrote:Posted By: tszirmay
Date Posted: May 20 2008 at 22:56
Poor Trevor Horn! Went on to produce The Art of Noise and Frankie Goes to Hollywood! Obviously traumatized! Its amazing what happens to you when you get conked by bottles!  ------------- I never post anything anywhere without doing more than basic research, often in depth. |
Posted By: iguana
Date Posted: May 21 2008 at 03:48
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wOw, interesting topic! kudos!
i remember some sort of band situation having been discussed inbetween ian gillan and keith emerson during the “rock aid armenia“ project in 1989. during the same time roger hodgson, who is good mates with trevor rabin, was bandied about as the new lead singer in YES and chris squire, of course, brought billy sherwood into the equation as early as 1989. certainly a year of turmoil for YES (with ABWH and everything) as well as many other bands. ------------- progressive rock and rural tranquility don't match. true or false? |
Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: May 21 2008 at 04:56
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Before Keith Emerson linked up with Greg Lake and Carl Palmer he auditioned (amongst others) Mitch Mitchell, Jack Bruce and Chris Squire ------------- 
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Posted By: Sacred 22
Date Posted: May 21 2008 at 06:04
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Emerson asked Steve Howe (Steve was not yet with YES) to join him after The Nice broke up and oddly enough Emerson was asked to join YES around the time of Moraz's departure from the band. |
Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: May 21 2008 at 06:14
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I believe Tommy Iomi tried out for Yes before they settled on Howe. That could have been interesting.
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Posted By: Kotro
Date Posted: May 21 2008 at 08:28
Wasn't it Jethro Tull? ------------- Bigger on the inside. |
Posted By: CCVP
Date Posted: May 21 2008 at 13:45
True. What a waste of talent, i must say. He had good vocals, but try to substitute Anderson is a difficult task -------------
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Posted By: BroSpence
Date Posted: May 21 2008 at 14:26
Iommi replaced Mick Abrahams after This Was for a couple weeks before Barre joined. However, Barre had auditioned to be in Sabbath. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIbI6Yl8J_U - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIbI6Yl8J_U The only other auditioning stories I know are the more obvious ones like Les Claypool trying out for Metallica after Cliff died. There are many stories about John Frusciante auditioning for Frank Zappa, but he has said that he chickened out and left the audition before his turn came. |
Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: May 21 2008 at 15:49
It mentioned in the linner notes of the 2003(?) reissue of The Yes Album, as it was the first album without Banks. I think I might have read it in Q's prog rock special from three years ago as well. ------------- Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005
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Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: May 21 2008 at 15:54
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Fish was supposed to sing the part of Montresor in Peter Hammill's opera "The Fall of the House of Usher", but at the audition it turned out their voices were too similar, so Andy Bell of Eraser got the job
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Posted By: zvinki
Date Posted: May 21 2008 at 16:42
I read somehwere that Gavin Harrison auditioned for AC/DC. 
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Posted By: Chicapah
Date Posted: May 21 2008 at 16:42
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Terry Reid was asked by Jimmy Page to sing lead vocals in the new band he was assembling. Reid's career was just starting to gather momentum after some successful tours of the USA with the Stones and Cream so he declined but suggested that Page check out a guy named Robert Plant... ------------- "Literature is well enough, as a time-passer, and for the improvement and general elevation and purification of mankind, but it has no practical value" - Mark Twain |
Posted By: The Doctor
Date Posted: May 21 2008 at 16:57
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Steve Gould of Rare Bird was a contender to replace Gabriel. I almost replaced Tony Banks...but sadly I woke up. ------------- I can understand your anger at me, but what did the horse I rode in on ever do to you? |
Posted By: clarke2001
Date Posted: May 21 2008 at 17:03
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We heard that before but...I'm really curious about how HELP would sound. Iommy's guitar sound in Tull. Yummy!
BTW: did anyone heard Jimi Hendrix/Jim Morrison album? Any good?
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Posted By: Statutory-Mike
Date Posted: May 21 2008 at 17:52
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This isn't so much early days but does anyone remember when Satriani was in Deep Purple for a short amount of time? ------------- 
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Posted By: Syzygy
Date Posted: May 21 2008 at 18:06
Iommi's brief spell in Tull included their appearance in the Rolling Stones Rock and Roll Circus, if you're interested - I think it's available on DVD. ------------- 'Like so many of you I've got my doubts about how much to contribute to the already rich among us...' Robert Wyatt, Gloria Gloom |
Posted By: debrewguy
Date Posted: May 21 2008 at 18:15
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Er, how about Elton John trying out for Gentle Giant, but being turned down when he played Derek some of the songs he was writing. It is true.
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Posted By: jimmy_row
Date Posted: May 21 2008 at 18:27
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Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: May 21 2008 at 18:41
Very cool(interesting) thread we got here!  for the OP
Since I'm quite young I really dunno stuff like this, but I'll keep contact, since I've read every post, and it's more than just interesting, keep up the good work, love it! 
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: May 21 2008 at 19:26
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Hendrix and ELP would have been prog Nirvana... love what Hendrix did with Traffic. Such a loss to the world of prog.. he was heading that way me thinks...
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: May 21 2008 at 22:05
That's a nice thought, I got that feeling (Hendrix heading in a more prog direction), too. Can't quite see (hear) Hendrix in ELP in my mind's eye (ear).  HELP?Ladies and gentlemen - Hendrix Emerson Lake and Palmer (for you slow folks).  ------------- Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened... 
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Posted By: jimmy_row
Date Posted: May 22 2008 at 00:20
^ No No NO, Hendrix never would've come before Emerson; EHLP would be more like it. And all of Jimi's compositions would have a 2 minute moog solo tacked onto the end, just to remind you whose band it really is ------------- Signature Writers Guild on strike |
Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: May 22 2008 at 00:22
There are a few I remember, probably some have been mentioned:
Iván ------------- 
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Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: May 22 2008 at 04:41
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Bill Bruford with Gong. he did a tour with them once, but did not become a member. Pierre Moerlen with Magma. he and Christian Vander did not get along though. but what fantastic drumming that would have been with them being in one band ------------- A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta |
Posted By: Alucard
Date Posted: May 22 2008 at 05:53
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famous non prog replacement when Mick Taylor left the Stones : guitarists who were on the list Harvey Mandel (who played on Black & Blue), Rory Gallagher, Jeff Beck, Peter Frampton , Wayne Perkins (who payed also on B&B) and Ronnie Wood ( who got the job) |
Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: May 22 2008 at 07:38
Not true, I saw Yes at Hammersmith Odeon on the Drama tour. Whilst it's true that Horn struggled on the high notes, there were no bottles and no cries of "we want Anderson".
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Posted By: CCVP
Date Posted: May 22 2008 at 09:49
well, what i said was almost a direct quote from horn himself. I could not remember how he said it, but he said something very close to what i said. He was really traumatized by the european tour, specially with the UK tour. Dont remember the source though. . . -------------
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Posted By: iguana
Date Posted: May 22 2008 at 11:17
yep. that was in late 1993 to 1994, when DPmk2 came to final loggerheads with ritchie blackmore during the end of the “the battle rages on“ (25th anniv.) tour – watch the “come hell or high water“-DVD (birmingham NEC) for some delightful footage of ritchie acting like a right prat. satriani was actually proposed by japanese promoter mr.udo to secure the japan dates which were to follow. i don't think the pairing worked that well (they toured together quite a bit in the following year and i saw the show in hamburg which was very entertaining) musically but it was a first opening of the floodgates for some new and more obscure stage material that they were to continue with steve morse in the band after having to play virtually the same set for ages (well, there was a change with joe lynn turner at the mike but no one liked that version and period much so best skip that one...) apparently they would have liked to continue together with satriani officially as the new guitarist but there were issues with his solo record deal that got in the way. ------------- progressive rock and rural tranquility don't match. true or false? |
Posted By: Easy Money
Date Posted: May 22 2008 at 14:19
The supposed HELP band is more media blow-up than reality. Emerson did talk to Mitchell about joining his new band. From there I have heard two different versions: 1) Mitchell turned it down and said Hendrix might be interested. 2) Mitchell was interested and wanted to bring on Jimi too, but Keith and Lake did not like the 'heavy' crowd that followed Mitch around. From what I understand Keith was amused and honored that Hendrix would be interested, but never really took it seriously as an idea that would work. Personally I would have liked to hear Hendrix with the young Jon Lord, that would have been incredible. As far as where Hendrix was headed, the merging of "classical" influences was already happening in his music, but even more than that, he was heading towards the new jazz-rock, doing jams with Larry Young which could have easily lead to a project with Miles Davis, who was very interested in hooking up with Jimi. Regarding the ongoing controversy of adding Jimi to proto-prog or prog related. I think the Experience band would be more appropriate because Mitchell has to be THE proto-prog drummer. You can hear his ideas in Bruford's playing as well Michael Giles,Clive Bunker and many others. Of course they all probably got that from Elvin Jones. Regarding Vangelis and Yes, I believe I have heard that it turned out that Vangelis did not have the technical skills to handle their music. Vangelis has done some nice music, but I have never heard him play anything remotely similar to some of Yes's more demanding passages. I'm kind of suprised he even bothered to try out. ------------- Help the victims of the russian invasion: http://www.jazzmusicarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=28523&PID=130446&title=various-ways-you-can-help-ukraine#130446 |
Posted By: unclemeat69
Date Posted: May 22 2008 at 16:59
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Rhitchie Blackmore wanted Doug Pinnick (King's X/Poundhound) to sing for DP in 1990 and Doug refused. Jimmy Page played for a short while with Chris Squire and Alan White as XYZ (Ex-Yes-Zeppelin) in the early 80's. wouldn't that be something: 80's yes with Page (and Plant maybe) ------------- Follow your bliss |
Posted By: Walker
Date Posted: May 22 2008 at 19:33
I have. don't waste yer money. It's just a bootleg of Hendrix and Morrison jamming in some nightclub with Johnny Winter and some other chaps. The sound is horrible, and Morrison is so drunk that all he does is scream and make funny noises.
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Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: May 22 2008 at 21:45
So it´s still better than most of the Doors material ------------- "You want me to play what, Robert?" 
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Posted By: iguana
Date Posted: May 23 2008 at 03:33
that is odd! i would have loved to hear that version of KingxPurple!!! but it is strange, given how vocal ritchie blackmore was of his opposition to the funk and soul influences that hughes and coverdale brought to the table in DPmkIII. doug pinnick is an amazing vocalist. even when you're about to pigeonhole him into some sort of black/soul/gospel/blues-clichee he comes up with something completely new and raw and honest. plus, he is probably one of the most genuine artists out there. and – would you believe it – he's almost the same age as the guys in purple! ------------- progressive rock and rural tranquility don't match. true or false? |
Posted By: Syzygy
Date Posted: May 24 2008 at 06:51
A friend of mine had a copy where (if I remember correctly) Morrison was credited with 'mumbling, abuse and harmonica' - that pretty much sums it up, plus the sound quality is crap even by bootleg standards. ------------- 'Like so many of you I've got my doubts about how much to contribute to the already rich among us...' Robert Wyatt, Gloria Gloom |
Posted By: stewe
Date Posted: May 25 2008 at 06:19
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Keyboard/violin wizard Eddie Jobson was supposed to join Yes instead of Kaye (before 90125 band was established). This could have been amazing line-up, also with those prominent instruments.
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Posted By: ghost_of_morphy
Date Posted: May 26 2008 at 13:06
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Anybody mention Rabin's early involvement with what would become Asia yet? |
Posted By: *frinspar*
Date Posted: May 27 2008 at 03:33
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When I was living in Austin, some of my musician friends became close with the guys in Watchtower. This was after 'Control and Resistance'. My best friend, Andy, was asked to try out as their singer. He was given a 4-song, music-only tape and had to write lyrics and sing them. He and my other buds were known as Mercury, and then ForceDirection, then Way, Shape, and Form during those years. Local budding prog metal. Of course, I thought that was just the coolest thing ever  Andy was very respectful of their wishes, so he never made me a copy of the tracks he did as much as I bugged him. He obviously didn't get picked up by them, but they dug what he did. |