The next U.S. President (for non-US members only)

ME! DUN DUN DUN!

Barack Obama is my favorite candidate left.  Even though Hillary has similar views to Obama on most fronts, I think he has a better chance of uniting the country (not everyone of course,  but a lot more people hate Hillary than Barack, especially non-Liberals), and getting people interested in politics, especially young people, which means less neo-con power.  Plus the Clinton and Bush dynasties have reigned too long (esp. the Bush ones ).  If it comes down to superdelegates, it seems like Hillary would have the  edge, I'd be upset if it does end up that way.

Somebody here said that all Obama talks about is change, well yeah it would appear that way if you only listened to Fox or CNN news, where they only show clips of the candidates saying the same things.  It seems monotonous, yes, but check out youtube coverage or even his website to get a better idea of how he plans to bring about change.


Edited by Bluesaga - February 12 2008 at 14:44

It needs to switch back and forth so neither army takes over the country.

Slartibartfast wrote: Rather than start a fresh topic, anyone up for guessing vice pres picks for the remaining three top runners? Mine: Hillary - Wesley Clarke Obama - John Edwards McCain - I'm stumped, and really don't care...

Hillary - Bill
Obama - John Edwards (good choice actually)
McCain - Chuck Norris (unless Charles Bronson is still alive)

ClemofNazareth wrote: McCain - Chuck Norris (unless Charles Bronson is still alive)

Good one!

NaturalScience wrote: Sean Trane wrote:   Would Bill Hubby be legible for vice prez??? There's actually some debate about this.  Strictly reading the Constitutional amendment which deals with presidential term limits, he would.  However, there's also another amendment that states that people who don't meet the qualifications to be President can't run for Vice-President.  It's really only an intellectual exercise, as practically it will never happen.

I very wary of going for either one of the big parties. Of course the democrats seem better than republicans because there's been a republican there now. People have very short political memory, what feels bad at the moment is so much more important than what has happened in the past. I'm not saying that i'd like bush. What I'm saying, is: I'd personally vote for someone who in fact, as you americans describe it, liberal, not a conservative as these both are. Two big money driven parties you see. i should think if you want to vote it's at least your responsibility to find out about all the candidates, not just the ones that are always on the headlines, because they are the ones who aere paying a lot of corrupt money to get the spot there. I'd go for someone completely outside of this donkey-elephant moneywasting battle.

Though as a realist I know in your great nation this will never happen. Well, not in the following 200 years if we're still alive on earth. So studying the topic, I was first pretty much behind Clinton, keeping it to myself. Probably because McCain is everything I've always fought against, and Hillary represents something new to the country, and to the world. But then I started thinking, Do I really assume having a woman there would change anything? Well, in fact the only refreshment there would be an ideological one between 
 the women /men separation. Then, wouldn't it be better to strike two flies with one... you know. Barack Obama is younger. He's not related to a former president like all the others you've had for the past what, 20 years? And after B. Clintons cover up politics... And he's african-american. But lately I've been thinking about it. Am I letting emotional issues affect my opinion. Frankly, Obamas agenda is closer to that of McCain's.

It's undeniable, that should it be a democrat then later, it'll be a huge step along the lines of humanity for the USA, but for politics, well, the USA has always been a world police and will stay that way for long, and you can see it in the international law statement and well, in action too.

ClemofNazareth wrote: NaturalScience wrote: Sean Trane wrote:    Would Bill Hubby be legible for vice prez??? There's actually some debate about this.  Strictly reading the Constitutional amendment which deals with presidential term limits, he would.  However, there's also another amendment that states that people who don't meet the qualifications to be President can't run for Vice-President.  It's really only an intellectual exercise, as practically it will never happen.  The other debate is over whether the provision that the president has to be native born applies to John McCain, who is the son of American citizens but was born in Panama.  Again this is really just an intellectual exercise, but makes for some mildly interesting speculation.

Actually, Hillary unites the Republican party against her. They've gotten over Bill, more or less, but they still hate her. This primary cycle has shown me that much of that hatred is justified. I wasn't politically aware until after they were no longer relevant so I didn't really understand it, but damn her campaign has pulled a lot of crap. Her naked ambitition, complete shamelessness, and bullheaded stubbornness are frightening.