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Poll Question: Who do our non-U.S. members think should be the next U.S. president?
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Originally posted by jimmy_row jimmy_row wrote:

I had my first chance to vote in any election today, the MD primaries fianlly rolled around...and, lookee here, all the candidates I liked have been weeded out *sigh* oh well, I was just happy to be able to take part in the process, went with Barack Obama.

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For the record, I welcome whichever Democratic candidate gets the nomination.  The Republicans have done enough damage to this country and it's time to give the Democrats a chance! Wink


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Barack Obama is my favorite candidate left.  Even though Hillary has similar views to Obama on most fronts, I think he has a better chance of uniting the country (not everyone of course,  but a lot more people hate Hillary than Barack, especially non-Liberals), and getting people interested in politics, especially young people, which means less neo-con power.  Plus the Clinton and Bush dynasties have reigned too long (esp. the Bush ones Wink).  If it comes down to superdelegates, it seems like Hillary would have the  edge, I'd be upset if it does end up that way.

Somebody here said that all Obama talks about is change, well yeah it would appear that way if you only listened to Fox or CNN news, where they only show clips of the candidates saying the same things.  It seems monotonous, yes, but check out youtube coverage or even his website to get a better idea of how he plans to bring about change.


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I had my first chance to vote in any election today, the MD primaries fianlly rolled around...and, lookee here, all the candidates I liked have been weeded out *sigh* oh well, I was just happy to be able to take part in the process, went with Barack Obama.
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I'm not a McCain supporter by any means, still this one's kind of funny,
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Originally posted by Deathrabbit Deathrabbit wrote:

The claims of racism are a bit disheartening, but it seems a tad dodgy that only on copy of that newsletter existed, so  I dunno. It just seems unlikely that he would commit such blatant political suicide. But as you said, he'll never be elected, so I doubt it matters wither way.
It's not one copy, there's just only one copy online because these things were printed in the '80s and '90s and nobody cared about Ron Paul until he ran for president and the Rondroids violently took over the internet. I find the Ron Paul explanations unconvincing. He claims they were ghostwritten without his knowledge (not that they never existed), but his signature is on them, and can you really believe that he didn't even glance at the newsletter being published in his name for over 10 years? If he didn't, that just shows really poor management, and if he did, then he agrees with them. Neither option is very good. Add to that the infamous picture of him with the Stormfront guy, whose money he has not pubicly rejected...
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Now here's a racist. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXGMi7a53jA


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Originally posted by Deathrabbit Deathrabbit wrote:

Originally posted by Ghandi 2 Ghandi 2 wrote:

Originally posted by rileydog22 rileydog22 wrote:

Obama cracks me up.  His platform is simply the word "change".  What does he want to change?  He rarely mentions.  How does he plan on going about these changes?  He doesn't have any idea.  BUT, unlike every candidate in history who has promised change (read: all of them), Obama will ACTUALLY change things.  
Actually. he talks about it about a lot, if you listen. I am aware that is bogged down in political speak, but he gives solid ideas. And he has actually accomplished things. As a Paul-ite, I doubt you would vote for him anyway, and I'm not sure I will vote for him, but I want to combat such a popular misconception.
 
By the way, Ron Paul is racist, in addition to being insane. However, he never had any chance of winning, so it's not really an issue.
 
There's really no need to make such condescending remarks about how racist America is; polls and the current election results do not support that at all.

The claims of racism are a bit disheartening, but it seems a tad dodgy that only on copy of that newsletter existed, so  I dunno. It just seems unlikely that he would commit such blatant political suicide. But as you said, he'll never be elected, so I doubt it matters wither way.
It's highly possible that this came out when it did because Paul was gaining popularity in the black community for his stance against the War on Drugs (the war on people, really)...there was something to be gained on both sides:  The mainstream democrat machine in open states could syphen some of these votes, and McCain and Guiliani in closed primary states...the whole thing sounds silly to me; he was probably just careless and didn't pay enought attention to the people who were dealing with his newsletter/magazine at the time.  Politics is politics, as always.
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Originally posted by Ghandi 2 Ghandi 2 wrote:

Originally posted by rileydog22 rileydog22 wrote:

Obama cracks me up.  His platform is simply the word "change".  What does he want to change?  He rarely mentions.  How does he plan on going about these changes?  He doesn't have any idea.  BUT, unlike every candidate in history who has promised change (read: all of them), Obama will ACTUALLY change things.  
Actually. he talks about it about a lot, if you listen. I am aware that is bogged down in political speak, but he gives solid ideas. And he has actually accomplished things. As a Paul-ite, I doubt you would vote for him anyway, and I'm not sure I will vote for him, but I want to combat such a popular misconception.
 
By the way, Ron Paul is racist, in addition to being insane. However, he never had any chance of winning, so it's not really an issue.
 
There's really no need to make such condescending remarks about how racist America is; polls and the current election results do not support that at all.

The claims of racism are a bit disheartening, but it seems a tad dodgy that only on copy of that newsletter existed, so  I dunno. It just seems unlikely that he would commit such blatant political suicide. But as you said, he'll never be elected, so I doubt it matters wither way.
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Originally posted by ClemofNazareth ClemofNazareth wrote:

G.W. probably doesn't care, but considering about 99% of this country consists of people with ties to some other nation, I'm curious who the people of those countries think should be our next U.S. president.

It would also be nice to know why you chose the candidate you voted for.

Edited January 22nd to remove Biden, Dodd, Tancredo and Thompson who have all now officially dropped out.

Kucinich dropped out January 23rd.  Giuliani announced he's dropping out and endorsing McCain January 29th.

Edwards announced January 30th he is dropping out but will not immediately endorse another candidate.
 
Mitt Romney announced February 7th that he is suspending his bid for the Republican nomination.
 
 
 


You've "dashed" some of the drop outs and noted others.  If memory serves one of the dashed guys got a poll vote before he was dashed.  I'm a little of a stickler for consistency. LOL

Interesting to see the top two dems are still competitive, but I suspect McCain has it locked up now for the reps.  I can only hope that the so called conservatives will sit this one out rather than support and vote for the Mc man.  Also interesting that about a year ago McCain looked like he was going to be political road kill.
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I just find it so funny that a left-wing politician in the US is best described as a right-wing one here in Sweden Tongue. And no, I'm not trying to make a statement out of that. My vote goes for Obama, for all I've heard/read so far.
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Originally posted by rileydog22 rileydog22 wrote:

Obama cracks me up.  His platform is simply the word "change".  What does he want to change?  He rarely mentions.  How does he plan on going about these changes?  He doesn't have any idea.  BUT, unlike every candidate in history who has promised change (read: all of them), Obama will ACTUALLY change things.  
Actually. he talks about it about a lot, if you listen. I am aware that is bogged down in political speak, but he gives solid ideas. And he has actually accomplished things. As a Paul-ite, I doubt you would vote for him anyway, and I'm not sure I will vote for him, but I want to combat such a popular misconception.
 
By the way, Ron Paul is racist, in addition to being insane. However, he never had any chance of winning, so it's not really an issue.
 
There's really no need to make such condescending remarks about how racist America is; polls and the current election results do not support that at all.


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Ron Paul would be nice, but I have to be practical. Personally, McCain seems a bit unstable, Hillary is a part of the 2 family dynasty, and Obama wants to end space exploration. No good choice. Theres no candidate for me anyways, I believe in self-reliance, but I'm not a hard ass. Small federal government which noone except Paul really wants to do.  A mixture of Harm-Reduction and Prohibitionist policies to curb drug use.Where can a libertarian-slanted centrist ever find peace?

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Originally posted by rileydog22 rileydog22 wrote:

Obama cracks me up.  His platform is simply the word "change".  What does he want to change?  He rarely mentions.  How does he plan on going about these changes?  He doesn't have any idea.  BUT, unlike every candidate in history who has promised change (read: all of them), Obama will ACTUALLY change things.  

He and Hillary are essentially the same candidate, but a Bush or Clinton has been in the White House for the last 28 years (counting Bush Sr.'s VP tenure), so really at this point he'd be change simply by winning (which is about 90% of the change he would accomplish in a 4 year term. Frankly, I agree with most of Clinton's and Obama's points (since they are the same), but Obama has way more charisma, making him my choice. McCain is the closest thing the Reps had to a sane candidate, so I'm glad he's the frontrunner. Now I must hope that Huckabee doesn't miraculously make up ground, cause that man makes another four years of Bush look preferable in comparison.
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As long as a non-white male doesnt win,thats fine be me,the rest keep seeing to f#ck it up lol
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looking forward to next Tuesday.. though Obama will walk the dog with Va. 


have to say....though I've been with Hillary since the beginning... and think she'd beat McCain like a drum... I am warming to Obama.  I thought he made the same mistake Edwards did in running too early.. without at least a full term under his belt. But I guess that is why I am here.. instead of across the river.. banging interns and plotting the destruction of the fascists in the GOP. LOL

this one is going all the way to the convention though... should be really fun.. was too young in '76 to remember a primary season so in doubt. Obama loses though I think if it goes to super-delagates.. Hillary has the machine behind her.. but who knows what will happen in the months ahead. Fascinating.
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Mitt Romney announced today that he is dropping out of the presidential race.  His statement:
 
"If I fight on in my campaign all the way to the convention, I would forestall the launch of a national campaign and make it more likely that Senator Clinton or Obama would win.
 
And in this time of war, I simply cannot let my campaign be a part of aiding a surrender to terror."
 
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haha, you know we will...as long as the Actors Guild pretends to be on our side
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