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ClemofNazareth
Special Collaborator Prog Folk Researcher Joined: August 17 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 4659 |
Posted: January 31 2008 at 12:44 | ||
I can empathize with you on this point. When I married my wife more than 20 years ago I was in the military and she was an undocumented alien (a story worthy of a round of drinks someday if I ever get the chance ).
Anyway, I naively thought that by marrying her she would become a citizen. Not so, as you are aware and I discovered. It took us two years, thousands of dollars and as you said a lot of privacy invasion. And this was way back when we had immigration amnesty in the U.S. and well before 9/11. I can't imagine how difficult the process must be today. Best of luck and I hope you invite me to your citizenship ceremony some day - I love going to those things !
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"Peace is the only battle worth waging."
Albert Camus |
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jimmy_row
Forum Senior Member Joined: July 11 2007 Location: Hibernation Status: Offline Points: 2601 |
Posted: January 31 2008 at 12:52 | ||
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Signature Writers Guild on strike
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Slartibartfast
Collaborator Honorary Collaborator / In Memoriam Joined: April 29 2006 Location: Atlantais Status: Offline Points: 29630 |
Posted: January 31 2008 at 14:02 | ||
I hope to be proven wrong regarding Obama, but even if you put race aside (and maybe my perspective is colored a bit by living in the south east US all my life), don't underestimate the ability of the right wing noise machine, and vote shenanigans to pull off a Republican victory. My wife (who's black) thinks that if Obama is in a tight race and there are shenanigans like in 2000 and 2004, people aren't going to stand for it and there will be riots. I'm not so sure it won't be like 2000 and 2004 all over again, a minority of the people will get very upset but most will just take it. If HC is the Democratic nominee, I'd still vote for her over any Republican or even Nader (though I like Ralph). Or how about "Don't blame me, I voted for Zappa"?
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rileydog22
Forum Senior Member Joined: August 24 2005 Location: New Jersey Status: Offline Points: 8844 |
Posted: January 31 2008 at 23:14 | ||
Obama cracks me up. His platform is simply the word "change". What does he want to change? He rarely mentions. How does he plan on going about these changes? He doesn't have any idea. BUT, unlike every candidate in history who has promised change (read: all of them), Obama will ACTUALLY change things.
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: February 01 2008 at 07:38 | ||
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jimmy_row
Forum Senior Member Joined: July 11 2007 Location: Hibernation Status: Offline Points: 2601 |
Posted: February 01 2008 at 13:26 | ||
Proletariat vs. Bourgeoisie...coming to a city near you.
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: February 04 2008 at 15:52 | ||
You think us proles will win?
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jimmy_row
Forum Senior Member Joined: July 11 2007 Location: Hibernation Status: Offline Points: 2601 |
Posted: February 05 2008 at 10:32 | ||
haha, you know we will...as long as the Actors Guild pretends to be on our side
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ClemofNazareth
Special Collaborator Prog Folk Researcher Joined: August 17 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 4659 |
Posted: February 07 2008 at 16:49 | ||
Mitt Romney announced today that he is dropping out of the presidential race. His statement:
"If I fight on in my campaign all the way to the convention, I would forestall the launch of a national campaign and make it more likely that Senator Clinton or Obama would win.
And in this time of war, I simply cannot let my campaign be a part of aiding a surrender to terror."
Press Conference at the Conservative Political Action Conference (Washington DC February 7, 2008)
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Slartibartfast
Collaborator Honorary Collaborator / In Memoriam Joined: April 29 2006 Location: Atlantais Status: Offline Points: 29630 |
Posted: February 07 2008 at 18:03 | ||
Twitt
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micky
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 02 2005 Location: . Status: Offline Points: 46833 |
Posted: February 07 2008 at 19:03 | ||
looking forward to next Tuesday.. though Obama will walk the dog with Va.
have to say....though I've been with Hillary since the beginning... and think she'd beat McCain like a drum... I am warming to Obama. I thought he made the same mistake Edwards did in running too early.. without at least a full term under his belt. But I guess that is why I am here.. instead of across the river.. banging interns and plotting the destruction of the fascists in the GOP. this one is going all the way to the convention though... should be really fun.. was too young in '76 to remember a primary season so in doubt. Obama loses though I think if it goes to super-delagates.. Hillary has the machine behind her.. but who knows what will happen in the months ahead. Fascinating. |
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The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip
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mrcozdude
Forum Senior Member Joined: July 25 2007 Location: Devon,UK. Status: Offline Points: 2078 |
Posted: February 07 2008 at 19:19 | ||
As long as a non-white male doesnt win,thats fine be me,the rest keep seeing to f#ck it up lol
thought a minute on the pole i thought it read John Mclane, unfortuantley its not.He would give Arnie a run for his money.
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1800iareyay
Prog Reviewer Joined: November 18 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2492 |
Posted: February 07 2008 at 22:44 | ||
He and Hillary are essentially the same candidate, but a Bush or Clinton has been in the White House for the last 28 years (counting Bush Sr.'s VP tenure), so really at this point he'd be change simply by winning (which is about 90% of the change he would accomplish in a 4 year term. Frankly, I agree with most of Clinton's and Obama's points (since they are the same), but Obama has way more charisma, making him my choice. McCain is the closest thing the Reps had to a sane candidate, so I'm glad he's the frontrunner. Now I must hope that Huckabee doesn't miraculously make up ground, cause that man makes another four years of Bush look preferable in comparison. |
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Failcore
Forum Senior Member Joined: October 27 2006 Status: Offline Points: 4625 |
Posted: February 07 2008 at 23:58 | ||
Ron Paul would be nice, but I have to be practical. Personally, McCain seems a bit unstable, Hillary is a part of the 2 family dynasty, and Obama wants to end space exploration. No good choice. Theres no candidate for me anyways, I believe in self-reliance, but I'm not a hard ass. Small federal government which noone except Paul really wants to do. A mixture of Harm-Reduction and Prohibitionist policies to curb drug use.Where can a libertarian-slanted centrist ever find peace?
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Ghandi 2
Forum Senior Member Joined: February 17 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1494 |
Posted: February 08 2008 at 02:09 | ||
Actually. he talks about it about a lot, if you listen. I am aware that is bogged down in political speak, but he gives solid ideas. And he has actually accomplished things. As a Paul-ite, I doubt you would vote for him anyway, and I'm not sure I will vote for him, but I want to combat such a popular misconception.
By the way, Ron Paul is racist, in addition to being insane. However, he never had any chance of winning, so it's not really an issue.
There's really no need to make such condescending remarks about how racist America is; polls and the current election results do not support that at all. Edited by Ghandi 2 - February 08 2008 at 02:27 |
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LinusW
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: September 27 2007 Location: Sweden Status: Offline Points: 10665 |
Posted: February 08 2008 at 03:38 | ||
I just find it so funny that a left-wing politician in the US is best described as a right-wing one here in Sweden . And no, I'm not trying to make a statement out of that. My vote goes for Obama, for all I've heard/read so far.
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Slartibartfast
Collaborator Honorary Collaborator / In Memoriam Joined: April 29 2006 Location: Atlantais Status: Offline Points: 29630 |
Posted: February 08 2008 at 08:03 | ||
You've "dashed" some of the drop outs and noted others. If memory serves one of the dashed guys got a poll vote before he was dashed. I'm a little of a stickler for consistency. Interesting to see the top two dems are still competitive, but I suspect McCain has it locked up now for the reps. I can only hope that the so called conservatives will sit this one out rather than support and vote for the Mc man. Also interesting that about a year ago McCain looked like he was going to be political road kill. |
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Failcore
Forum Senior Member Joined: October 27 2006 Status: Offline Points: 4625 |
Posted: February 08 2008 at 12:33 | ||
The claims of racism are a bit disheartening, but it seems a tad dodgy that only on copy of that newsletter existed, so I dunno. It just seems unlikely that he would commit such blatant political suicide. But as you said, he'll never be elected, so I doubt it matters wither way. |
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jimmy_row
Forum Senior Member Joined: July 11 2007 Location: Hibernation Status: Offline Points: 2601 |
Posted: February 08 2008 at 13:46 | ||
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Failcore
Forum Senior Member Joined: October 27 2006 Status: Offline Points: 4625 |
Posted: February 08 2008 at 16:16 | ||
Now here's a racist. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXGMi7a53jA
Edited by Deathrabbit - February 08 2008 at 16:17 |
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