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StyLaZyn
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Topic: Anti-United States Sentiment Posted: February 01 2008 at 08:57 |
I'm just curious from those who are not (USA) American.
I'd like to put the time frame of this within the last 8 years.
If you can offer more to support your answer, please do.
This is a non-scientific poll.
Edited by StyLaZyn - March 07 2008 at 09:17
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allan Duul II
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Posted: February 01 2008 at 09:12 |
I hate the US government, I hate Nationalism on all counts, I have no problem with American people.
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Peter
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Posted: February 01 2008 at 09:50 |
On the rise during the last eight years, I'd say. It's lonely at the top.
I imagine imperial Rome & Britain came in for their share of disdain in their days, as well. It's funny how far away folks don't appreciate militaristic foreigners coming in to run the show and siphon off resources & cash. Go figure.
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Raff
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Posted: February 01 2008 at 10:08 |
Unfortunately, I think anti-American sentiment is on the rise - as most negative feelings seem to be around the world. As someone who is planning to move to the US in the next few months, I am trying to look at things in the most objective way I can, but it's not always easy.
Though Italy has been more or less a US colony for the past sixty years, I will have to go through a stressful and expensive process in order to get a visa (NOT a Green Card!), and will ultimately be made to feel like an intruder for years - not by the people, of course, but by those who rule the land. I just wish the government realised that no one who has been kept apart from their loved ones for months, as well as forced to undergo repeated invasions of their privacy, will be well-disposed towards their new country. Having been born somewhere is not a privilege, in my opinion, but only a matter of chance.
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stonebeard
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Posted: February 01 2008 at 12:18 |
I'm beginning to see how clunky, inefficient, pompous, over-extensive, self-important, and clueless my government is. It's just a bit ridiculous. Maybe it comes with governing so much crap, and also with trying to be everyone's best friend and worst enemy at the same time. It's not low-key enough for me.
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jimmy_row
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Posted: February 01 2008 at 13:17 |
The world is just jealous 'cos we're the BEST nation in the world!!! Americans are simply a superior race.
*insert a Stephen Colbert sized dose of sarcasm
Edited by jimmy_row - February 01 2008 at 13:18
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Vompatti
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Posted: February 01 2008 at 18:26 |
As long as they don't bomb my country I'm fine.
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JJLehto
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Posted: February 01 2008 at 18:42 |
My guess is that it is ALWAYS on the rise. I'd also say that its been around a long time even thought it's probably been really bad the last 8 years (CANT imagine why at all..... ) What can I say. I love the country I live just not the people in charge.
Edited by JJLehto - February 01 2008 at 18:45
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rileydog22
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Posted: February 01 2008 at 19:16 |
stonebeard wrote:
I'm beginning to see how clunky, inefficient, pompous, over-extensive, self-important, and clueless my government is. It's just a bit ridiculous. Maybe it comes with governing so much crap, and also with trying to be everyone's best friend and worst enemy at the same time. It's not low-key enough for me.
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Bingo.
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Atkingani
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Posted: February 01 2008 at 19:27 |
I think it's fair to be "anti-American" all around the world, but it flows and reflows... and there's a great dose of cynicism involved. The same person that goes to a rally to yell "Down with the Yankees" (translate here into 187 languages) uses a shirt where's writen OHIO UNIVERSITY, watches MTV and do not lose the chance to go to Disney World.
People should learn to differentiate between Nation (culture, tradition, history, etc) and State (government, establishment, etc) and the eventual sentiment might be "anti-US government" but in fact, in a minor or a major ratio, might be (90% of the cases) "anti-any government" - they're all pure crap and if able to act as a super-power they'll do.
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rileydog22
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Posted: February 01 2008 at 19:36 |
I suppose that the illusion of democracy facilitates blaming a bad government on a people as a whole.
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Raff
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Posted: February 02 2008 at 03:27 |
JJLehto wrote:
What can I say. I love the country I live just not the people in charge.
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You're perfectly right about that, though I find it's not so simple. Being older than many of you, I've formed my own opinion about the way things go in the world, and I've stopped subscribing to the theory that, in democratic countries such as ours, the people are the victims of the bad politicians. Somebody put them there, and they reflect in many ways the nature of those who voted for them. I know Italians love to blame politicians for everything, but they're the first who do F-all in order to make everyday life a bit easier for everyone. I don't think politicians force people to double-park, be noisy, not pay the bus fare, or throw litter around. It's far too easy to blame others, when you're the first to wash your hands of the welfare of your society.
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: February 02 2008 at 06:40 |
We have some good people here, but there are a lot of jerks on the loose and way too often those are the ones with the most power.
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: February 02 2008 at 07:44 |
"Anti-American" ... what does that mean? No vote here from me ... I don't think that people around the world are hating the people of the United States, it's rather their government and many of their recent (last 20 years) decisions.
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: February 02 2008 at 08:28 |
Well, certain people love to paint those who are critical of what the US government is doing as being critical of the citizens. It's a shame that too many people (sheeple?) buy in to this...
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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StyLaZyn
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Posted: February 02 2008 at 10:19 |
I concur with the idea of "sheeple". This is one reason the society in the USA is decaying.
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BaldJean
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Posted: February 02 2008 at 10:37 |
Slartibartfast wrote:
Well, certain people love to paint those who are critical of what the US government is doing as being critical of the citizens. It's a shame that too many people (sheeple?) buy in to this...
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this very much reminds me of Friede's favorite Einstein quote: "to be a perfect member of a flock of sheep one first of all has to be a sheep"
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Forgotten Son
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Posted: February 02 2008 at 10:41 |
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
"Anti-American" ... what does that mean? | Exactly the question I was going to ask.
Slartibartfast wrote:
Well, certain people love to paint those who are critical of what the US government is doing as being critical of the citizens. It's a shame that too many people (sheeple?) buy in to this... |
Exactly the point I was going to make
Edited by Forgotten Son - February 02 2008 at 10:51
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: February 04 2008 at 15:56 |
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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el böthy
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Posted: February 06 2008 at 21:54 |
I´m more of an anti-republican jejeje. But yes, as somebody said, I am by no means anti-USA but anti - USA current goverment. ...Ah, and America is a continent, not a country
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