Anti-United States Sentiment
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Topic: Anti-United States Sentiment
Posted By: StyLaZyn
Subject: Anti-United States Sentiment
Date Posted: February 01 2008 at 08:57
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I'm just curious from those who are not (USA) American.
I'd like to put the time frame of this within the last 8 years.
If you can offer more to support your answer, please do.
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Posted By: allan Duul II
Date Posted: February 01 2008 at 09:12
| I hate the US government, I hate Nationalism on all counts, I have no problem with American people. |
Posted By: Peter
Date Posted: February 01 2008 at 09:50
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On the rise during the last eight years, I'd say. It's lonely at the top.
I imagine imperial Rome & Britain came in for their share of disdain in their days, as well. It's funny how far away folks don't appreciate militaristic foreigners coming in to run the show and siphon off resources & cash. Go figure.  ------------- "And, has thou slain the Jabberwock? Come to my arms, my beamish boy! O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!' He chortled in his joy. |
Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: February 01 2008 at 10:08
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Unfortunately, I think anti-American sentiment is on the rise - as most negative feelings seem to be around the world. As someone who is planning to move to the US in the next few months, I am trying to look at things in the most objective way I can, but it's not always easy. Though Italy has been more or less a US colony for the past sixty years, I will have to go through a stressful and expensive process in order to get a visa (NOT a Green Card!), and will ultimately be made to feel like an intruder for years - not by the people, of course, but by those who rule the land. I just wish the government realised that no one who has been kept apart from their loved ones for months, as well as forced to undergo repeated invasions of their privacy, will be well-disposed towards their new country. Having been born somewhere is not a privilege, in my opinion, but only a matter of chance. |
Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: February 01 2008 at 12:18
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I'm beginning to see how clunky, inefficient, pompous, over-extensive, self-important, and clueless my government is. It's just a bit ridiculous. Maybe it comes with governing so much crap, and also with trying to be everyone's best friend and worst enemy at the same time. It's not low-key enough for me.
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Posted By: jimmy_row
Date Posted: February 01 2008 at 13:17
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The world is just jealous 'cos we're the BEST nation in the world!!! Americans are simply a superior race.
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Posted By: Vompatti
Date Posted: February 01 2008 at 18:26
As long as they don't bomb my country I'm fine. 
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Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: February 01 2008 at 18:42
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My guess is that it is ALWAYS on the rise. I'd also say that its been around a long time even thought it's probably been really bad the last 8 years (CANT imagine why at all.....  )What can I say. I love the country I live just not the people in charge. |
Posted By: rileydog22
Date Posted: February 01 2008 at 19:16
Bingo. -------------   |
stonebeard wrote:Posted By: Atkingani
Date Posted: February 01 2008 at 19:27
I think it's fair to be "anti-American" all around the world, but it flows and reflows... and there's a great dose of cynicism involved. The same person that goes to a rally to yell "Down with the Yankees" (translate here into 187 languages) uses a shirt where's writen OHIO UNIVERSITY, watches MTV and do not lose the chance to go to Disney World. 
People should learn to differentiate between Nation (culture, tradition, history, etc) and State (government, establishment, etc) and the eventual sentiment might be "anti-US government" but in fact, in a minor or a major ratio, might be (90% of the cases) "anti-any government" - they're all pure crap and if able to act as a super-power they'll do.
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Posted By: rileydog22
Date Posted: February 01 2008 at 19:36
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I suppose that the illusion of democracy facilitates blaming a bad government on a people as a whole.
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Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: February 02 2008 at 03:27
You're perfectly right about that, though I find it's not so simple. Being older than many of you, I've formed my own opinion about the way things go in the world, and I've stopped subscribing to the theory that, in democratic countries such as ours, the people are the victims of the bad politicians. Somebody put them there, and they reflect in many ways the nature of those who voted for them. I know Italians love to blame politicians for everything, but they're the first who do F-all in order to make everyday life a bit easier for everyone. I don't think politicians force people to double-park, be noisy, not pay the bus fare, or throw litter around. It's far too easy to blame others, when you're the first to wash your hands of the welfare of your society. |
Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: February 02 2008 at 06:40
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We have some good people here, but there are a lot of jerks on the loose and way too often those are the ones with the most power.
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: February 02 2008 at 07:44
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"Anti-American" ... what does that mean? No vote here from me ... I don't think that people around the world are hating the people of the United States, it's rather their government and many of their recent (last 20 years) decisions.
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: February 02 2008 at 08:28
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Well, certain people love to paint those who are critical of what the US government is doing as being critical of the citizens. It's a shame that too many people (sheeple?) buy in to this...
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Posted By: StyLaZyn
Date Posted: February 02 2008 at 10:19
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I concur with the idea of "sheeple". This is one reason the society in the USA is decaying.
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Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: February 02 2008 at 10:37
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Posted By: Forgotten Son
Date Posted: February 02 2008 at 10:41
Exactly the question I was going to ask.
Exactly the point I was going to make |
Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: February 04 2008 at 15:56
So we can continue to speak for you then?  I have some great ideas to put in your head, honest. I promise not to sneak in anything too gnarly. ------------- Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: February 06 2008 at 21:54
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I´m more of an anti-republican jejeje. But yes, as somebody said, I am by no means anti-USA but anti - USA current goverment. ...Ah, and America is a continent, not a country  ------------- "You want me to play what, Robert?" 
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Posted By: rileydog22
Date Posted: February 06 2008 at 21:55
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Actually, America is two continents.
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Posted By: Kid-A
Date Posted: February 09 2008 at 14:33
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I think most people hate the US government. And I hate all the huge corporations as well: Coca-cola, Nike, Pepsi, Disney etc.
Don't have a problem with American people though, and I know there are some beautiful places in America. ------------- 
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Posted By: BroSpence
Date Posted: February 09 2008 at 14:46
That would be true except there is no illusion that America is a democracy. We were founded as a democratic republic and continue to be one. Unfortunately some politicians prefer to label things as a democracy which we clearly are not. And considering we do not get to represent ourselves in government we can't really be blamed for anything since the representative that is elected can do anything they want within the law (although they certainly like to bend or break it quite often). A democratic republic is a pretty good setup I think, its just that many people that wish to lead are not good leaders. |
Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: February 09 2008 at 17:52
Out of respect for my fellow hemisphere'ers, I refer to my country as the US rather than America. America of course has north, south, and central regions. Maybe those of us on this side of the globe should all unite and turn against those of you on the opposite side just for fun. Damned old worlders.  ------------- Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: February 10 2008 at 08:12
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I should point out the difference between the 'dislike' of the US government, and the hatred and suspicion so many people, in the UK, have of Muslims. Anti US sentiment, to my knowledge, doesn't manifest itself in hate campaigns, and xenophobic slurs against US citizens, in my country.
For myself, I like America and American people, and I'm relying on the US electorate to do the whole world a favour, and vote a Democrat into the Whitehouse. I dont care if it's Clinton or Obama. Personally I think Larry David should be president, but that's another story.. 
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Posted By: StyLaZyn
Date Posted: February 10 2008 at 10:02
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One thing disturbs me, and maybe some of you see it as well. I am myself a moderate, politically speaking. I have friends on both sides of the political scope. I get political emails regularly from both sides and well as the standard jokes. I rarely see any of my liberal friends sending questionable or attack emails. On the flip side, I get Muslim/gay/black/liberal bash mail from my conservative friends. Does this coincide with any Anti-American government sentiment? I don't know. It may not be definitive but one thing I take away from it is that my conservative friends are not tolerant. They have sent a message loud and clear to me. And it bothers me. -------------
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: February 10 2008 at 10:34
"The US" isn't accurate either. It's "The United States of America", and ironically this phrase makes the same mistake you're complaining about. Perhaps we should say "USofNA"? ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/release-polls/pa/aoty-2024/vote" rel="nofollow - 2024 Release Poll Listened to:
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Posted By: IVNORD
Date Posted: February 11 2008 at 21:37
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: February 12 2008 at 05:41
Resolved then, we are now officially the USofNA. We've all gone, all gone, all gone, all gone, to look for the USofNA. ------------- Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Posted By: The Wizard
Date Posted: February 12 2008 at 16:35
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I'm an American citizen. I hate the government, hate what our nations come to stand for, and what we do to other countries. I think the fact that the majority of us don't believe in evolution, would never elect an atheist president, and have an FCC that never shuts it's mouth dosn't help either. But America has done a lot in the area of free speech and i'm proud of my country for that. -------------  
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Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: February 13 2008 at 07:38
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I don't think the expression "Anti-American Sentiment" could ever truly refer to the entire nation, only to its government; it's an unfortunate reality, though, that a country's government & foreign policy is usually the yardstick by which other nations define its inhabitants. Individuals are individuals, no matter where they hail from & I do my best to treat others as I'd want to be treated myself and not to generalise depending upon where they're from...
...unless they're from the north of England though...
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Posted By: IVNORD
Date Posted: February 13 2008 at 09:27
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Posted By: ghost_of_morphy
Date Posted: February 13 2008 at 15:02
It's also a shame that people believe those guys who burn American flags and attack fast food franchises because they are associated with America when they claim that some of their best friends are Americans....
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Posted By: ghost_of_morphy
Date Posted: February 13 2008 at 15:04
Perhaps not. It does in many others....
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: February 18 2008 at 05:38
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I doin't think Anti-US sentiments are on the rise since the Irak war (that's pretty constant since), but they definitely grew since Bush got to power. The resentment was lesser during the Clinton era. ------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
Posted By: StyLaZyn
Date Posted: February 21 2008 at 13:53
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Protesters Storm U.S. Embassy in Serbia and Set Fire Over Kosovo Independence
Rioters stormed the U.S. embassy in Belgrade, Serbia, on Thursday and started a fire in protest of Kosovo's declaration of independence earlier this week. Masked attackers broke into the building, which has been closed this week, and tried to throw furniture from an office. A blaze broke out inside one of the offices. The neighboring Croatian Embassy also was attacked by the same group. Crowds outside cheered and chanted, egging the demonstrators on as they stormed the embassy, which was closed at the time and had no police guarding it, Reuters reported. Riot police drove armored jeeps down the street and fired tear gas to clear the crowd. U.S. State Department spokesman Sean McCormack on Thursday urged the Serbian government to protect the U.S. Embassy. He said the U.S. ambassador was at his home and was in contact with U.S. officials. -------------
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Posted By: aapatsos
Date Posted: February 23 2008 at 06:07
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I have the feeling that this sentiment is rising continuously... And we all know that it is against the US government, not the people (I have never heard of anyone having an 'anti-US people' feeling...  )back to the point, this trend might change (or not) depending on the coming US elections but I believe that this sentiment is justified throughout the world, it can't be just a trend... |
Posted By: markosherrera
Date Posted: March 07 2008 at 00:08
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Its true,, normally many people hate the goverment of USA ,BUT dont hate the people..........................................
The people of the other countries normally or in general prefer presidents of democrat party..and hate presidents of republican party
In my country the people in general feel sympathy for USA people..we like the music,sports,culture etc...but not how are some politics ,specially republicans.... ------------- Hi progmaniacs of all the world |
Posted By: cuncuna
Date Posted: March 07 2008 at 00:20
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Getting tired of the term "America" being used to talk about just a part of it. Even if you are not at all thinking about American countries of the south, ¿where, according to you, is Mexico? ¿This feeling is anti Mexico as well?. ------------- ¡Beware of the Bee! |
Posted By: The T
Date Posted: March 07 2008 at 00:35
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I'm ashamed by what I'm going to say, but many people in my country and other latin american countries thought it was just and fair what happened in 9/11, for example. Leftists hate america and, sadly, that sometimes extends to its people. Sad but true, and in that matter I know, I come from South America and I've been with young people in Universities.
Stupidity runs high in pro-farc, anti-yankee south american youth. And the love that Bush is able to provoke in everybody outside the US doesn't help matters... ------------- 
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Posted By: The T
Date Posted: March 07 2008 at 00:42
You're right and Ive been starting to be influenced from that way of talking. America goes from Cabo de Hornos to the northerrmost point of Canada and Alaska.... not from Rio Grande to the 5 great Lakes.... But that's what, sadly, has helped to create hostility against the US: the idea thier people (misinformed) have that it's the center of the world...
Even saying North Americans is wrong.. where does that leave Mexicans and Canadians?
There you go: another element that feeds the fire against the US in the rest of the world.
And this country (US) still has some things that make it a leader, and by far the thing I respect and actually rever the most is the freedom of speech which is absolutely absolute.... Not even in Europe are you free to even say stupid things (like pro-nazi words..). here you are free to be an idiot...
Why would a country with such a magnificent premise be hated outside its borders? Agains, ask the leadres, ask history, but also, ask the human nature.... the weak tends to envy the strong.... the poor tends to resent the rich.... (it doesn't help that the rich has actually taken advantage in a few occasions...) -------------
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Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: March 07 2008 at 07:48
well, freedom of speech is not as absolute as you think. when it comes to freedom of press the USA are only ranked 48 in the list which is published yearly by "Reporters without Borders". Germany has fallen back from rank 11 to rank 20 due to an incident that took place a little more than a year ago, when the offices of a newspaper were searched by German police. shared leaders are Iceland and Norway, by the way. here a link to the list, if you are interested: http://www.rsf.org/article.php3?id_article=24025 - http://www.rsf.org/article.php3?id_article=24025 ------------- A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta |
Posted By: debrewguy
Date Posted: March 07 2008 at 11:20
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It's too easy to gang up on the top dog. But that's human nature.
The funny part is listening to those who hate the U.S. when it interferes in another country's affairs, say Iraq, because they disagree with the American Gov't. But then will also criticise this same gov't for NOT intervening in another country where the critic believes it is necessary, say Rwanda, if anyone remembers.
THe international community cannot have it both ways. Like it it or not, right or wrong, Bush AND ANY OTHER U.S. PRESIDENT ultimately answer to the american voter, no one else. AND it is common sense that a country will act based on its' own interests, whether or not the rest of us believe it to be so.
I'd love to see soldiers en masse in Afghanistan to properly pacify the country & allow it rebuild & solidify its' society. I would have no problem with the world sending in troops to a few central African countries to quell the diamond wars. I would be leary of any attempt to meddle in civil wars if only because short of a humanitarian crisis, outsiders are rarely in a position to judge who the good guys are.
BUT it too often seems that the Americans are the ones who are at the other end of the pointing finger. Caucasian/white troops in a foreign country ? Easiest target for any rebel group. The enemy is easy to spot because he is not the same colour as you. But , taking the gold & diamond fueled wars in Africa, the African Union is completely unwilling, and in truth, unable to step in. So we blame the U.S. for not doing our bidding.
So ALL TOGETHER NOW - America is the Roman/British empire of our day. With all attendant faults, failings, shortcomings AND successes & superiorities. ------------- "Here I am talking to some of the smartest people in the world and I didn't even notice,” Lieutenant Columbo, episode The Bye-Bye Sky-High I.Q. Murder Case. |