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The Pessimist
Prog Reviewer
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Topic: what is prog? Posted: December 22 2007 at 16:41 |
Now i know the archives have made a very good description on what prog is.
but if someone asks you on the street what is is, you ain't gona produce paragraphs of speech are you LOL
so what i want to hear are simple one sentence descriptions for "what is prog?".
my suggestion is:
rock music for intelligent people.
tell me what you think
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laplace
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Posted: December 22 2007 at 16:43 |
hell no, I'm a moron and I like prog
although I don't like rock
keep winnowing that description down dearest
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heyitsthatguy
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Posted: December 22 2007 at 16:45 |
smart people can still like dumb music
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Evans
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Posted: December 22 2007 at 16:51 |
Not as good as classical music, not as fun as regular rock.
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'Let's give it another fifteen seconds..'
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cynthiasmallet
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Posted: December 22 2007 at 16:53 |
I really don't see how liking prog is any measure of intelligence.
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santiagomo87
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Posted: December 22 2007 at 16:59 |
If somebody asked me in the street (as strange as it sounds) i'll tell him to sit down and relax and then i would start by prog history and samples from my ipod. Now, i know i won't do this with any stranger, however, there is one definition that i would use. I know it is not very accurate but it can open the door for the person who asks to search new music. this definition I´m speaking about is "music which uses rock elements to create ever-changing textures and melodies" simple and true but again, not very accurate.
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unclemeat69
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Posted: December 22 2007 at 17:05 |
prog is an abbreviation for progressive
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Follow your bliss
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Posted: December 22 2007 at 17:06 |
unclemeat69 wrote:
prog is an abbreviation for progressive
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Hahhaha, that's a nice one.
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ghost_of_morphy
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Posted: December 22 2007 at 17:11 |
What your father used to listen to might sum it up nicely.
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laplace
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Posted: December 22 2007 at 17:13 |
if prog really stood for progressive then this site would list about a thirtieth of the bands it currently has. the "prog != progressive" argument has arrived chiefly because the lack of innovation over the years forces everyone to examine even slightly unusual music that much closer ;P
(this opinion was controversial about thirty five years ago) ;P
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King Crimson776
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Posted: December 22 2007 at 17:19 |
there is no such thing as prog
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Certif1ed
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Posted: December 22 2007 at 17:33 |
Not what it used to be.
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The important thing is not to stop questioning.
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unclemeat69
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Location: Netherlands
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Posted: December 22 2007 at 17:51 |
laplace wrote:
if prog really stood for progressive then this site
would list about a thirtieth of the bands it currently has. the "prog
!= progressive" argument has arrived chiefly because the lack of
innovation over the years forces everyone to examine even slightly
unusual music that much closer ;P
(this opinion was controversial about thirty five years ago) ;P
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I certainly agree with the lack of innovation, I also can't escape the
feeling that most innovation and musical progress since at least the
80's was achieved outside of so-called prog.
There is, however, a noticeable change in sound, production and
songwriting between the 60's and the 70's with longer,
thoroughly-structured songs, more complex meters and rhythms etc. all
things that were rarely/never done before, which might all very well be
the reason for calling our beloved music prog in the first place. later
after the initial developing phase (read:first wave british prog),
other bands took the example of the previous bands and couldn't help
sounding like the previous bands. and now a band is often not
considered prog it they don't sound like a familiar band from the past,
no matter how innovative and groundbreaking those later bands may be.
Apparently, some people don't recognise progressiveness if it bit them in the nose.
Edited by unclemeat69 - December 22 2007 at 17:53
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Follow your bliss
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Floydian42
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Posted: December 22 2007 at 17:54 |
Certif1ed wrote:
Not what it used to be. |
Hahaha....
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Ghandi 2
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Posted: December 22 2007 at 18:02 |
laplace wrote:
if prog really stood for progressive then this site would list about a thirtieth of the bands it currently has. the "prog != progressive" argument has arrived chiefly because the lack of innovation over the years forces everyone to examine even slightly unusual music that much closer ;P
(this opinion was controversial about thirty five years ago) ;P
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You use the winking tongue way, way too much. And when did you become a PR!? I should start writing more reviews, I'm starting to feel left out...
These threads never go anywhere, ever.
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Marcos
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Location: Argentina
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Posted: December 22 2007 at 18:16 |
Progressive rock isn't a style. Prog rock is a searching. Most of instruments are rock-related instrumens, but other instruments are from differents folk styles (from all the countries). Harmony and rhythm aren't typical of rock.
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YesFan72
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Posted: December 22 2007 at 18:24 |
Rock that you wouldn't like nor understand.
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proglil49
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Posted: December 22 2007 at 19:25 |
YesFan72 wrote:
Rock that you wouldn't like nor understand. |
It's not that people are unable to like or understand prog, it's that they won't "waste" time trying to discover a kind of music that's more complex than what they're used to.
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NotSoKoolAid
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Posted: December 22 2007 at 20:14 |
cynthiasmallet wrote:
I really don't see how liking prog is any measure of intelligence. |
It's not necessarily a measure of intelligence so much as it is an indicator of intelligence. Musical intelligence isn't an oxymoron, or mythological, it's real.
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Philéas
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Posted: December 22 2007 at 21:14 |
Prog is a the result of arranging the letters g, o, p and r together in a certain way.
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