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Certif1ed 
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 Posted: December 09 2007 at 14:45 |
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And I don't see anything special about Randy Rhodes. |
You're kidding?
That guitarist list is incredibly lazy - it wasn't compiled by a guitarist.
...and people should stop bashing Timberlake just because of who he is, and listen to what the guy does.
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Snipergoat
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Posted: December 09 2007 at 15:00 |
| How do you measure greatness? |
I don't know, it's a stupid list and you shouldn't really take it seriously... it's just someone elses opinion and was drawn up from their prespective. In my view, a great guitarist is someone who can play well, knows the instrument inside out, can experiment with new techniques and who is always always trying to improve.
Edited by Snipergoat - December 09 2007 at 15:00
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ClassicRocker
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Posted: December 09 2007 at 15:01 |
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Edited by ClassicRocker - December 09 2007 at 15:04
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micky
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Posted: December 09 2007 at 15:01 |
Snipergoat wrote:
| How do you measure greatness? |
I
don't know, it's a stupid list and you shouldn't really take it
seriously... it's just someone elses opinion and was drawn up from
their prespective.
In my view, a great guitarist is someone who
can play well, knows the instrument inside out, can experiment
with new techniques and who is always always trying to improve.
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then when am I on that list my friend....
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The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip
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ClassicRocker
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Posted: December 09 2007 at 15:02 |
micky wrote:
classicrocker wrote:
A B Negative wrote:
heyitsthatguy wrote:
What's terrible about the list is Zappa is below Johnny f**king Power Chord Ramone
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Maybe Johnny Ramone was more influential than Zappa.
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That's definitely the most depressing thing I've read all day.
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pfffff..... there might be an element of truth there perhaps..
who knows.... we don't have to like punk.... but you can't ignore it.
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Actually, Micky, I was saying exactly that. It's depressing to me because it is a fairly true statement. Punk bands like the Ramones, Sex Pistols, the Clash, etc. have had arguably way more influence on the music that followed (especially including modern music), than Frank Zappa has had. The only popular/mainstream music nowadays that I can say has been influenced by Zappa would be Weird Al Yankovic, and that's merely from a humor-in-music standpoint (not much by way of technicality). And it makes me somewhat sad that that's the way it is... but on the other side of things, I suppose that it just makes Frank Zappa that much greater and original... or something.
Edited by ClassicRocker - December 10 2007 at 01:21
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Snipergoat
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1800iareyay
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Posted: December 09 2007 at 15:35 |
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The guitarists list is nightmarishly bad. They should have the decency to redo it and ask someone intelligent for input. Kurt Cobain shou;dn't be allowed within ten feet of it. Lyricists, absolutely, but guitarists? No Steve Vai? Are you serious. EVH number 70. I'm amazed they managed to put Hendrix in the right place. I'm sure the editor had to fix that. Influence should be the biggest factor, but it'll be a cold day in hell before Cobain influences more than EVH and Tony Iommi.
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ClassicRocker
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Posted: December 09 2007 at 18:48 |
Certif1ed wrote:
The Wizard wrote:
And I don't see anything special about Randy Rhodes. |
You're kidding?
That guitarist list is incredibly lazy - it wasn't compiled by a guitarist.
...and people should stop bashing Timberlake just because of who he is, and listen to what the guy does.
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 You are absolutely right; I think we should all commend him for bringing "Sexy Back."  Those creative beats and rhymes he makes certainly are infectious!
Edited by ClassicRocker - December 12 2007 at 19:04
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stonebeard
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Posted: December 09 2007 at 19:48 |
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micky
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Posted: December 09 2007 at 20:57 |
not to mention 'Can You Hear me Knockin' is a killer frickin song 
Hard to call it the best.. with so many great songs by them but
it is right with Monkey Man as my favorite from the Stones... and
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these eyes.. it isn't out of place on that list at all... shame it
wasn't
twice the length it was.
Edited by micky - December 09 2007 at 20:59
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Inverted
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Posted: December 09 2007 at 21:45 |
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Aww, you can't hate Bruce and Funkadelic. Green Day, sure.
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Prog... It's good.
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Posted: December 09 2007 at 21:52 |
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I agree with Micky, stonie, and inverted, and I also say that Purple Rain is magnificence. Prince may be the weirdest guy on Earth, but his music is amazing.
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jimmy_row
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Posted: December 09 2007 at 23:15 |
ahhhh, Lizzy Reed 
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Signature Writers Guild on strike
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ClassicRocker
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Posted: December 10 2007 at 01:19 |
 I know my comments were bound to create some controversy, so sorry to everyone, but here's my defense:
Stonebeard - for Jane's Addiction I have only heard "Jane Says", so maybe I was a little unfair to point them out; that song just doesn't make them seem very special. Micky - I do really love the Stones, just Can't You Hear Me Knockin' doesn't strike me as at the top of their song list. If the list was 6min+ songs, I would have elected Sympathy For The Devil.
Inverted wrote:
Aww, you can't hate Bruce and Funkadelic. Green Day, sure.
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I actually didn't say I hated any of these bands, per se. I enjoy Bruce Springsteen very much, and would have preferred a song like Rosalita (Come Out Tonight) [Live] (I find Jungleland somewhat boring/overrated). Once again, I've been unfair with Funkadelic, though. I have only heard the name... so maybe that was an accidental bolding .
1800iareyay wrote:
I agree with Micky, stonie, and inverted, and I also
say that Purple Rain is magnificence. Prince may be the weirdest guy on
Earth, but his music is amazing.
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Sorry, that's the only Prince song I've heard (the live version), and I can't say that I like it.
Edited by ClassicRocker - December 10 2007 at 01:20
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A B Negative
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Posted: December 10 2007 at 04:43 |
ClassicRocker wrote:
I know my comments were bound to create some controversy, so sorry to everyone, but here's my defense:
Stonebeard - for Jane's Addiction I have only heard "Jane Says", so maybe I was a little unfair to point them out; that song just doesn't make them seem very special.
Micky - I do really love the Stones, just Can't You Hear Me Knockin' doesn't strike me as at the top of their song list. If the list was 6min+ songs, I would have elected Sympathy For The Devil.
Inverted wrote:
Aww, you can't hate Bruce and Funkadelic. Green Day, sure. |
I actually didn't say I hated any of these bands, per se. I enjoy Bruce Springsteen very much, and would have preferred a song like Rosalita (Come Out Tonight) [Live] (I find Jungleland somewhat boring/overrated). Once again, I've been unfair with Funkadelic, though. I have only heard the name... so maybe that was an accidental bolding .
1800iareyay wrote:
I agree with Micky, stonie, and inverted, and I also say that Purple Rain is magnificence. Prince may be the weirdest guy on Earth, but his music is amazing. |
Sorry, that's the only Prince song I've heard (the live version), and I can't say that I like it.
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Jane Says is possibly the least representative Jane's Addiction song. Three Days is definitely one of their best.
Is Can't You Hear Me Knockin' on Guitar Hero 2? It might explain its appearance on the list.
Funkadelic's Maggot Brain isn't a funk song, it's one of the best guitar solos ever recorded.
I played guitar in a blues band many years ago, we played a blues version of Purple Rain. It was as bad as it sounds. 
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"The disgusting stink of a too-loud electric guitar.... Now, that's my idea of a good time."
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The Wizard
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Posted: December 10 2007 at 06:37 |
Certif1ed wrote:
The Wizard wrote:
And I don't see anything special about Randy Rhodes. |
You're kidding?
That guitarist list is incredibly lazy - it wasn't compiled by a guitarist.
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So only guitarist can properly judge the sound of another guitarist?
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burtonrulez
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Posted: December 12 2007 at 02:54 |
1800iareyay wrote:
I'm amazed they managed to put Hendrix in the right place |
But they didn't 
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heyitsthatguy
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Posted: December 12 2007 at 17:14 |
The Wizard wrote:
Certif1ed wrote:
The Wizard wrote:
And I don't see anything special about Randy Rhodes. |
You're kidding?
That guitarist list is incredibly lazy - it wasn't compiled by a guitarist.
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So only guitarist can properly judge the sound of another guitarist? |
Yes. ololololol controversy
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micky
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Posted: December 12 2007 at 17:18 |
A B Negative wrote:
Is Can't You Hear Me Knockin' on Guitar Hero 2? It might explain its appearance on the list.
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damn... never ever saw or heard of the first one... unless... was it the movie with Mark Wahlberg and Jennifer Anniston in it? I don't remember that song in the movie
Edited by micky - December 12 2007 at 17:19
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ClassicRocker
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Posted: December 12 2007 at 18:57 |
micky wrote:
A B Negative wrote:
Is Can't You Hear Me Knockin' on Guitar Hero 2? It might explain its appearance on the list.
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damn... never ever saw or heard of the first one... unless... was it the movie with Mark Wahlberg and Jennifer Anniston in it? I don't remember that song in the movie
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Nice try, Micky. Guitar Hero is a video game franchise. Basically it's Dance Dance Revolution with guitars, and people waste away their time playing fake guitar instead of learning how to do it for real. It's very sad, actually.
Edited by ClassicRocker - December 12 2007 at 18:57
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